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Trevholden
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re: Good game LSU fans!
Posted by Trevholden on 9/4/23 at 9:48 am to ShinerHorns
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Your team is a bunch of frauds. Hopefully you can make the playoffs so we whoop your arse when it really counts.
I would love to hear your reasoning on how they are a bunch of frauds.
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re: Does anyone own LSU like FSU, outside of Bama?
Posted by Trevholden on 9/4/23 at 9:47 am to AlwysATgr
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As for FSU in the 80s and 90s, one would have thought they would have more than one natty in that time frame if as described.
FSU got two natties in the 90s, 1993 and 1999. They finished ranked in the AP top 4 from 1987 to 2000, 14 straight years which is actually an NCAA record, but lots of near misses, wide right kicks, and other bad luck, but it is what it is. Definitely could've had four or five others if not for one play each of those seasons.
re: Good game LSU fans!
Posted by Trevholden on 9/4/23 at 9:23 am to TheOcean
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I think LSU is going to do stellar in the music city bowl this year ?
Eh not seeing it. I think LSU goes 10-2, at worst 9-3 if Ole Miss gets them. I'm just not seeing any other losses.
Good game LSU fans!
Posted by Trevholden on 9/4/23 at 8:31 am
I'm not here to gloat. You know I was right, so not much more needs to be said. But I will just add that Jayden Daniels really impressed me. I know you guys are crapping on him this morning, but that dude can play. He wasn't why you lost.
I still think LSU is a legit team and probably goes 10-2 this year, but FSU is just a cut above. I think you all underestimated them.
I'll be rooting for LSU the rest of the way. Sure there's some ulterior motive there in relation to FSU's SOS, but the LSU fans I met last night were all great.
Florida State will win tonight
I still think LSU is a legit team and probably goes 10-2 this year, but FSU is just a cut above. I think you all underestimated them.
I'll be rooting for LSU the rest of the way. Sure there's some ulterior motive there in relation to FSU's SOS, but the LSU fans I met last night were all great.
Florida State will win tonight
re: FSU having a "week 0" game last year- Why is this brought up so much??
Posted by Trevholden on 9/3/23 at 9:28 am to Nitrogen
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and the point still stands that you woke up during the arse crack of dawn with the Tigers on your mind pu$$y
So waking up on game day (in Orlando) and having the game on my mind in the first hour of the day is weird?
I guess tailgating is weird too right? Those obsessed fans!
re: FSU having a "week 0" game last year- Why is this brought up so much??
Posted by Trevholden on 9/3/23 at 8:53 am to Nitrogen
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You woke up at 4:53am with the Tigers on your mind
I woke up at 5:00am, just like I do every morning, and posted at 5:53am. You do realize some of us are in EST right?
re: FSU having a "week 0" game last year- Why is this brought up so much??
Posted by Trevholden on 9/3/23 at 4:58 am to am4titansandlsu
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We had a completely new coaching staff and roster Kelly taped together from scratch that had largely never played together.
It was a massive advantage highlighted by all the miscues we had still working out the kinks.
I don't disagree, but the point is BOTH teams had advantages and both teams had disadvantages.
FSU having a "week 0" game last year- Why is this brought up so much??
Posted by Trevholden on 9/3/23 at 4:53 am
I keep reading this so-called advantage FSU had last year by playing a game before LSU, but did it ever occur to anyone the advantages that LSU might've had? For one, that week 0 game gave LSU actual game film on FSU, while FSU had nothing for LSU which was made even more challenging due to LSU's entire new staff and quarterback. In addition, several FSU players got dinged up in that week 0 game while LSU was obviously completely fresh. In fact FSU's most dependable LB Amari Gainer suffered an injury and was out for LSU. If you watched UNC beat South Carolina last night you saw how good Gainer is. It's very doubtful Jayden Daniels has the rushing performance he had if Gainer played.
So the advantages work both ways. I call it a wash.
So the advantages work both ways. I call it a wash.
re: LSU has struggled in all sports vs FSU
Posted by Trevholden on 9/1/23 at 2:26 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Jacksonville State beat Florida State a couple of years ago. Is Jax State better than Florida State? I mean,that's the last time they played one another.
They do have bragging rights.
re: LSU has struggled in all sports vs FSU
Posted by Trevholden on 9/1/23 at 1:36 pm to That LSU Guy
I'm not arguing FSU baseball being anywhere close to the championship status of LSU, very few programs are. But this thread is about head-to-head.
re: LSU has struggled in all sports vs FSU
Posted by Trevholden on 9/1/23 at 12:55 pm to Gnash
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Other than 2019 LSU owns FSU in baseball.
Except for the fact they have a losing record vs FSU in baseball.
re: LSU has struggled in all sports vs FSU
Posted by Trevholden on 9/1/23 at 12:01 pm to stopitnow1
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You fl state fans are stuck way in the past
The past? As in the most recent meeting in every sport?
Winning the most recent game in a given sport is called "bragging rights". And FSU has that over LSU in everything except women's swimming and diving. Maybe that changes Sunday?
LSU has struggled in all sports vs FSU
Posted by Trevholden on 9/1/23 at 10:08 am
In the last 40 years, LSU and FSU have faced off in 12 sports, and FSU has won the most recent meeting in 11 of the 12, including all the major sports.
FSU's wins
- Football
- Men's Basketball
- Women's Basketball
- Baseball
- Softball
- Women's Soccer
- Women's Volleyball
- Women's Beach Volleyball
- Men's Tennis
- Men's Cross Country
- Men's Swimming and Diving
LSU's wins:
- Women's Swimming and Diving
FSU's wins
- Football
- Men's Basketball
- Women's Basketball
- Baseball
- Softball
- Women's Soccer
- Women's Volleyball
- Women's Beach Volleyball
- Men's Tennis
- Men's Cross Country
- Men's Swimming and Diving
LSU's wins:
- Women's Swimming and Diving
re: LSU vs Florida St Series Record Info
Posted by Trevholden on 9/1/23 at 4:55 am to EST
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1968 8-3 W 8-3
1979 7-5 L 11-1
1980 7-4 L 10-2
1981 3-7-1 L 6-5
1982 8-3-1 W 9-3
1983 4-7 L 8-4
1989 4-7 L 10-2
1990 5-6 L 10-2
1991 5-6 L 11-2
2022 10-4 L 10-3
And 8 of the 10 were LSU home games.
re: Johnny Wilson vs Duce Chestnut?
Posted by Trevholden on 8/30/23 at 7:24 pm to mgdtiger
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FSU threw for only 155.
If lsu only gives up 155 yards passing we are winning in a blowout
Well, on 21-23 passing and 3/0. But I do agree. FSU will need far more big plays in the passing game to win Sunday.
re: Johnny Wilson vs Duce Chestnut?
Posted by Trevholden on 8/30/23 at 7:21 pm to BengalBen
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Travis vs Chestnut
Ah 2021, vs a 7-loss FSU. FSU hasn't changed a bit since then. LSU was also a 7-loss team that year, so I guess they're the same too.
But credit where credit is due, that was a great play by Chestnut. I'm sure he'll do fine covering Johnny Wilson.
re: Johnny Wilson vs Duce Chestnut?
Posted by Trevholden on 8/30/23 at 6:32 pm to NorthTxLSU
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oh wow he missed a single tackle on a 6’7 WR, that guy sucks!
I never said he sucked. But yes, it would appear to be a mismatch, no?
Johnny Wilson vs Duce Chestnut?
Posted by Trevholden on 8/30/23 at 6:27 pm
re: LSU 2-8 lifetime vs FSU
Posted by Trevholden on 8/30/23 at 12:48 pm to Mobiletiggah
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Presently, I think we are a better team. We were last year but couldn’t execute well enough to win.
You think LSU was the better team in that game?
LSU did improve over the course of the year, but so did FSU who finished top 15 in both total offense and total defense. The only three schools besides FSU to do that were Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia.
re: The excuses from last year's LSU/FSU game
Posted by Trevholden on 8/30/23 at 8:44 am to thunderbird1100
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You completely cut off the fact (deliberately i presume) we would have had the ball at our own 16 with over 3 minutes left in the 1st half instead we ended up getting the ball at our own 8 with a minute left and THAT is a huge difference.
Again, we could have driven down and potentially gotten points if we didnt muff the punt having that much time. The fact FSU didnt score is irrelevant to the fact getting the ball with 3+ minutes in your own territory in a half left is a lot different approach offensively than inside your own 10 yard with a minute left. Thats a completely lost possession for us.
That's fine, but again, this is a "could've". Speculating what could've happened is something everyone does, but it doesn't mean it should've or would've happened. And it definitely doesn't prove anything about LSU being better or that they deserved to win the game.
What about FSU's mistakes? Didn't they make mistakes too? Didn't they get called for 7 penalties to LSU's 4? Didn't they miss blocking assignments, whiff on some tackles on key plays, and have drops like LSU? Didn't they fumble the ball at LSU's 1 yard line? And wasn't that fumble completely unforced? Wouldn't you say FSU punching it in from the 1 is a much more legit "shoulda/woulda" than LSU punching it in from 84 yards away from their own 16? Or 50+ yards away from FG range for the LSU kicker that, as someone pointed out earlier, was experiencing trajectory problems even on chip shots? Presuming any kind of score there is silly.
The bottom line is, both teams screwed up at various points, but FSU was the better team for much more of the game than LSU was.
re: The excuses from last year's LSU/FSU game
Posted by Trevholden on 8/29/23 at 11:52 am to Frogman93
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Well considering it was a 1 point game, frick yeah 55 seconds mattered.
Not really. The 55 second FSU "possession" happened right before LSU's final 99 yard drive. The only way it would've had any effect on the game is if LSU attempted an onside kick and recovered (against an FSU defense that would be set up for an onside kick). These are long shot odds that you don't "presume" to happen. Sure they COULD happen, but so could lots of other things in the course of a game. It's definitely not something that should be presumed WOULD'VE happened, and certainly not the reason LSU lost.
re: The excuses from last year's LSU/FSU game
Posted by Trevholden on 8/29/23 at 11:27 am to skullhawk
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LSU lost two possessions in a game that was decided by one point. If you don't think that's impactful, spend your Saturdays doing something other than watching college football because you do not know what you're watching.
But again, FSU was only able to eat up 3 total minutes. LSU did not lose opportunities. One of those muffed punts resulted in a loss of 55 seconds and no FSU points.
re: The excuses from last year's LSU/FSU game
Posted by Trevholden on 8/29/23 at 10:15 am to thunderbird1100
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I also see you mentioned zero about us having a 29 yard FG blocked and XPA blocked which come to find out is a huge difference in a 1 point game. Yes, FSU missed a FG too, but it was a long nearly 50 yarder, so not exactly the same.
On both LSU misses, FSU made great plays and BLOCKED them. These are plays that FSU special teams works on in the off season. Does this not count?
Meanwhile, on FSU's missed field goal, he simply missed it.
re: The excuses from last year's LSU/FSU game
Posted by Trevholden on 8/29/23 at 10:11 am to thunderbird1100
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Do you not understand how we lost two possessions out of this and FSU gained two possessions out of this? That's more time for FSU to do things on offense and less time for us. Even if they led to no points for FSU it's a big swing
FSU gained a grand total of 3 minutes for BOTH the ensuing drives after the muffs. 2:05 after the first muff, and :55 after the second muff. You make it sound like FSU chewed up 15 minutes.
And again, zero points.
To say the two muffs were the difference in the game is just blaming something that appears convenient, but it's not the reality of why LSU lost.
The excuses from last year's LSU/FSU game
Posted by Trevholden on 8/29/23 at 9:06 am
"LSU was playing its first game under a new staff"
And yet, somehow, LSU had no offensive turnovers and committed just 4 penalties all game. So they couldn't have been THAT rusty.
"We muffed two punts. That was the difference in the game."
How so? Neither muff led to any FSU points. In fact one of them led to an FSU turnover of their own, at the LSU goal line no less. Why is this never brought up? These things work both ways.
"LSU 'shoulda won' the game"
Sorry but this is just wrong. The reality is, LSU never lead at any point in the game after FSU took the lead early in the second quarter. Meanwhile, FSU had two separate 14 point leads and it would've been three had FSU not fumbled on the LSU goal line. In fact after the first quarter LSU never ran a single play where they could've taken the lead. But yet, somehow, they 'shoulda won'?
"LSU was the better team"
This part is the funniest to me. With 9 minutes left to go in the game, FSU had out-gained LSU 365-174. That is not a typo. LSU was steamrolled. They couldn't run the ball except for plays breaking down and Jayden Daniels scrambling. Outside of Daniels' scrambling, LSU rushed for a grand total of 25 yards on 14 carries. 99 of their total yards came in the final minute when FSU had gone completely prevent.
The analysis/excuses about last year's game and the predictions for this year's game are honestly laughable. Assuming there are no injuries to Jordan Travis, FSU is the better team and has the better roster. They have the most returning production in the nation. Literally #1, look it up. The most returning production, and from a team that finished top 15 in both total offense and total defense. (The only others to do that were Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia).
They've also won five straight vs LSU. And they're playing in a stadium where FSU has never lost.
And yet, somehow, LSU had no offensive turnovers and committed just 4 penalties all game. So they couldn't have been THAT rusty.
"We muffed two punts. That was the difference in the game."
How so? Neither muff led to any FSU points. In fact one of them led to an FSU turnover of their own, at the LSU goal line no less. Why is this never brought up? These things work both ways.
"LSU 'shoulda won' the game"
Sorry but this is just wrong. The reality is, LSU never lead at any point in the game after FSU took the lead early in the second quarter. Meanwhile, FSU had two separate 14 point leads and it would've been three had FSU not fumbled on the LSU goal line. In fact after the first quarter LSU never ran a single play where they could've taken the lead. But yet, somehow, they 'shoulda won'?
"LSU was the better team"
This part is the funniest to me. With 9 minutes left to go in the game, FSU had out-gained LSU 365-174. That is not a typo. LSU was steamrolled. They couldn't run the ball except for plays breaking down and Jayden Daniels scrambling. Outside of Daniels' scrambling, LSU rushed for a grand total of 25 yards on 14 carries. 99 of their total yards came in the final minute when FSU had gone completely prevent.
The analysis/excuses about last year's game and the predictions for this year's game are honestly laughable. Assuming there are no injuries to Jordan Travis, FSU is the better team and has the better roster. They have the most returning production in the nation. Literally #1, look it up. The most returning production, and from a team that finished top 15 in both total offense and total defense. (The only others to do that were Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia).
They've also won five straight vs LSU. And they're playing in a stadium where FSU has never lost.
re: LSU 2-8 lifetime vs FSU
Posted by Trevholden on 8/29/23 at 7:18 am to r2d2
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Most of these games were in the 90’s and LSU struggled against most teams back then. Also coincided with FSU’s golden era.
Only two of them were played in the 90's.
LSU 2-8 lifetime vs FSU
Posted by Trevholden on 8/28/23 at 8:51 pm
including 1-7 in Baton Rouge/New Orleans. Why does LSU struggle so much vs FSU?
2-8 is the worst all-time record LSU has vs any opponent in the country, of the schools LSU has played at least 10 times. LSU also has a current five game losing streak. Does that streak end this Sunday? Or does it move to six?
2-8 is the worst all-time record LSU has vs any opponent in the country, of the schools LSU has played at least 10 times. LSU also has a current five game losing streak. Does that streak end this Sunday? Or does it move to six?
re: Starting quarterback comparison - Jordan Travis vs Jayden Daniels - who has the edge
Posted by Trevholden on 8/27/23 at 5:24 pm to paper tiger
Sorry, I'm taking Jordan Travis. He had the highest PFF grade in all of P5 last year, had a better passer rating than Daniels AND as a runner a higher ypc including some absolute Houdini plays. Travis also had the best NCAA rating for passes over 20 yards in the air. And the dude is super slippery. Jayden Daniels is excellent, but he simply can't do some of the things in this video.
LINK
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re: Florida State is 9-0-2 in Orlando neutral site games. LSU is 3-3
Posted by Trevholden on 8/26/23 at 10:44 am to LSUDonMCO
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WRONG!!! Bama beat the dog shite out of FSU in Orlando! It was the game the FSU QB broke his leg
That was in Atlanta.
re: Florida State is 9-0-2 in Orlando neutral site games. LSU is 3-3
Posted by Trevholden on 8/26/23 at 6:33 am to Memphricabra
FSU is actually 10-0-2 not 9-0-2. Noles beat Oklahoma in Orlando last year.
re: LSU now 2-8 all-time vs FSU
Posted by Trevholden on 9/5/22 at 10:55 am to mdomingue
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last night was a neutral site game.
Okay.
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