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re: Thoughts on "Christian Right"?

Posted by Varro on 10/21/24 at 3:57 pm to MyNameIsTokyo

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“Kindness is invincible.”

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you’re too dumb to know you’re dumb

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It’s globalism, you fricking dunce.

"One who devotes his attention to words but is tardy in conduct will certainly not be listened to, even though he argues well." - Mo Zi

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re: NY Times - First time in modern American history, more young Christian men than women

Posted by Varro on 9/30/24 at 9:57 am to Odysseus32

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Religion, IMO, is for people who were either indoctrinated young or needed the structure, values, and meaning it provides in adult life.

Do you genuinely think this is not insulting to religious people? How can you say this with the religious people in your life?

Do you think that little of them that they can't handle themselves and make decisions for themselves without being indoctrinated or relying on it as a crutch? Or do you think so highly of yourself?

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re: 40% of young US women say they aren’t having kids because they’re too expensive

Posted by Varro on 9/26/24 at 9:57 am to DingLeeBerry

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In our time all Greece was visited by a dearth of children and generally a decay of population, owing to which the cities were denuded of inhabitants, and a failure of productiveness resulted, though there were no long-continued wars or serious pestilences among us. If, then, any one had advised our sending to ask the gods in regard to this, what we were to do or say in order to become more numerous and better fill our cities,—would he not have seemed a futile person, when the cause was manifest and the cure in our own hands? For this evil grew upon us rapidly, and without attracting attention, by our men becoming perverted to a passion for show and money and the pleasures of an idle life, and accordingly either not marrying at all, or, if they did marry, refusing to rear the children that were born, or at most one or two out of a great number, for the sake of leaving them well off or bringing them up in extravagant luxury. For when there are only one or two sons, it is evident that, if war or pestilence carries off one, the houses must be left heirless: and, like swarms of bees, little by little the cities become sparsely inhabited and weak.

Polybius on the Depopulation of Greece

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re: Abortion from a Republican woman's perspective...

Posted by Varro on 8/31/24 at 7:41 pm to SlowFlowPro

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And you're free to hold this view, but I don't think many will agree, which illustrates my point about the importance of separating personal-moral stances and political-policy stances, and how you can believe something is immoral without also mandating pollical-policies making that immorality illegal.

I don't think there is an absolute separation. Politics has as its aim the good of the community. Ethics (or morality) has as its aim the good of man. The good of the community (of men) is sought in reference to the good of man. All things political are therefore ethical (dealing with good of man), but not all things ethical are political. So your opponents' position is that abortion should be outlawed because its abolition is better for the community than the alternative positions.

Now, as you have pointed out, simply saying something is "immoral" does not show that something should be illegal, as there are certain actions or inactions that are ethical but not necessarily political.

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