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re: MBB: LSU vs. Missouri 2:30 PM SECN - Honoring1986 NCAA Final Four Team & Hat Giveaway!
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/17/26 at 9:09 am to rds dc
Is this a 2-game promotion?
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re: It does not matter about individual sports "losing" money
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 9:51 pm to SpartanSoul
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The money is spent where the fans want it to be (at least in theory). As I've stated above other programs have been built up from nothing and MBB could do it too but if people are expecting all other sports that don't make a profit to be gutted just to save MBB then I think they will be disappointed.
This is a straw man argument. You can invest money into basketball without “gutting” other programs or relying on donors. In 2019 we didn’t gut other programs and won the SEC in basketball.
re: It does not matter about individual sports "losing" money
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 9:48 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
Exactly. Put money into a program that can generate a substantial profit and it benefits the entire athletic department.
Putting money into WBB will generate wins, but no matter how much you put in that program, it will never generate a profit. Quite frankly, it seems to only widen the deficit, the financial rate of return is awful.
Putting money into WBB will generate wins, but no matter how much you put in that program, it will never generate a profit. Quite frankly, it seems to only widen the deficit, the financial rate of return is awful.
re: It does not matter about individual sports "losing" money
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 9:32 pm to SpartanSoul
You pay your WBB coach more than the men’s coach. WBB will never generate more than 20-25% of what MBB generates in a mediocre year. Yes, it makes sense to spend more money on the men’s program.
re: It does not matter about individual sports "losing" money
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 9:25 pm to ellessuuuu
In the 2023-24 year, WBB generated 1/5 the revenue the men’s team generated and had a higher salary costs. Men’s team - which was average at best still earned a 7-figure profit. WBB was $8MM in the red. That isn’t funded by donors, it’s funded by other sports.
Your logic would be sound if basketball didn’t generate a profit.
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Your logic would be sound if basketball didn’t generate a profit.
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re: It does not matter about individual sports "losing" money
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 9:13 pm to SpartanSoul
What about season ticket sales, merchandise sales, advertisements for basketball? That’s all new money that doesn’t come at the expense of other sports and it’s income that is largely derived from existing fixed costs. Why not roll the dice and give yourself an opportunity to earn more in return for the fixed costs?
ETA. Agreed you do need donor help, but not nearly as much as sports that always run in the red. Basketball not only finds itself, but it generates a profit helping to pay for other sports that don’t turn a profit.
Your reasoning is very near sighted and flawed. If successful, basketball creates money for non-revenue generating sports.
ETA. Agreed you do need donor help, but not nearly as much as sports that always run in the red. Basketball not only finds itself, but it generates a profit helping to pay for other sports that don’t turn a profit.
Your reasoning is very near sighted and flawed. If successful, basketball creates money for non-revenue generating sports.
re: It does not matter about individual sports "losing" money
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 8:37 pm to SpartanSoul
You don’t make important financial decisions in your career, do you?
If basketball’s profit margin grows with the hiring of a new coach, then it creates additional funding to the athletic department.
This is not money taken from other sports, it’s new money generated by a successful program.
Also if you want to continue building on the LSU Brand, you need the exposure of basketball. Like it or not, from a national branding perspective, basketball is second only to football and all others are a distant 3rd.
To not invest money in basketball because it could take away from other sports is fundamental misunderstand of the source of basketball revenue (and ultimately profits).
With the right hire and success, basketball pays for itself. Unlike every other sport on campus (except football).
If basketball’s profit margin grows with the hiring of a new coach, then it creates additional funding to the athletic department.
This is not money taken from other sports, it’s new money generated by a successful program.
Also if you want to continue building on the LSU Brand, you need the exposure of basketball. Like it or not, from a national branding perspective, basketball is second only to football and all others are a distant 3rd.
To not invest money in basketball because it could take away from other sports is fundamental misunderstand of the source of basketball revenue (and ultimately profits).
With the right hire and success, basketball pays for itself. Unlike every other sport on campus (except football).
re: I have a legitimate source that has told me there is 0% chance Wade comes back to LSU
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 4:35 pm to NeilArmstrong1969
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I can’t name my source but he is related to someone in the current administration and he has told me there is a 0% chance that Wade ever comes back to coach at LSU
Was hearing similar things until about 24 hours ago. Heard that Wade wouldn't be rehired in fairly certain terms. And then all of the sudden that position softened to, his name has been brought up.
re: Wade will be our next coach
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 9:04 am to tigahlovah
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Every single contributor on our 2019 football team was paid illegally to play for us.
And a few paid directly out of O's pocket. Ask yourself, why did a certainly highly touted CB have a mysterious injury the day after O's termination was announced that sidelined him the rest of the year...could it be because the money turned off.
re: Forget the last play. We’re on year four of talentless basketball.
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 6:44 am to geauxcoco
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And some on here think we shouldn't go after Wade
Name a better candidate.
re: Wade will be our next coach
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/15/26 at 5:46 am to lsufan1971
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Not from anyone at LSU. The entire LSU administration including the BOS didn’t like Wade. There is zero chance he will ever coach at LSU again
You do realize that administration is gone, right? And the current school president was his president McNeese.
You also realize that the current BOS has at least one person that is close fiends with Wade.
re: 21 points allowed to UK in the last 6:57 of the game
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 9:50 pm to NorthEndZone
53 second half points…
re: So you cut McMahon loose, what assistant are you letting finish out the year?…
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 9:47 pm to UnluckyTiger
Tend to agree but don’t want to have some kind of crazy SECT run and get in on a miracle.
re: Wade will be our next coach
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 9:11 pm to 225337
Lots of sources in the last three digits of your handle as well. Haha.
Have heard the same thing from connected folks on that end of the state.
Have heard the same thing from connected folks on that end of the state.
re: For Those Who Want Wade, Why Would He Come Back?
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 9:09 pm to Sofaking2
I am not ignoring that, but if at the end of this year, he’s comparing those two schools, then what he is making today at NC State matters.
Not sure what kind of appetite NC State will have to raise his pay significantly after year one, unless he makes a deep run in the tournament.
Not sure what kind of appetite NC State will have to raise his pay significantly after year one, unless he makes a deep run in the tournament.
re: Coaching was fine. Players are atrouciously ignorant of basketball IQ and awareness.
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 9:07 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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Players are atrouciously ignorant of basketball IQ and awareness
If only there was a person paid millions of dollars to help coach said players, and recruit said players. Guess we just got unlucky with all these players….
re: For Those Who Want Wade, Why Would He Come Back?
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 9:06 pm to Sofaking2
Agreed that Woodward massively overpays, but Wade is making the exact same at NC State today that he made at LSU in 2017.
He also did not get the NIL support he was promised on the front end.
NC State may value basketball more than football, but they still don’t seem to have the money. A significant part of that is the ACC is just behind the SEC significantly on Conference revenue.
He also did not get the NIL support he was promised on the front end.
NC State may value basketball more than football, but they still don’t seem to have the money. A significant part of that is the ACC is just behind the SEC significantly on Conference revenue.
re: For Those Who Want Wade, Why Would He Come Back?
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 9:03 pm to Sofaking2
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NC State definitely takes basketball more seriously than LSU. Nobody denies that
Then why are they paying him less than we are paying McMahon?
re: For Those Who Want Wade, Why Would He Come Back?
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 9:01 pm to ronniep1
Money and administrative support. He has a tremendous amount of loyalty to the former McNeese administrators who are now at or will soon be at LSU. Plus, the ACC is well behind the SEC from a financial perspective.
Not sure how his relationship is with the NC state administration, but I do know that he was not their athletic director’s first choice last year.
You can talk about legacy “Basketball schools“ all you want, he is currently making less than McMahon is making at LSU.
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The fact that LSU previously fired him will not keep him from coming back. You have to realize that the people who did that to him were unceremoniously shown the door over the last several months. The people there now have been extremely loyal and supportive of him.
Not saying it’s going to happen, but that door is certainly open from both sides.
Not sure how his relationship is with the NC state administration, but I do know that he was not their athletic director’s first choice last year.
You can talk about legacy “Basketball schools“ all you want, he is currently making less than McMahon is making at LSU.
ETA.
The fact that LSU previously fired him will not keep him from coming back. You have to realize that the people who did that to him were unceremoniously shown the door over the last several months. The people there now have been extremely loyal and supportive of him.
Not saying it’s going to happen, but that door is certainly open from both sides.
re: Wade will be our next coach
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 8:43 pm to The Pirate King
Yeah because it led to a terrible result in football….
Oh wait, he was right and we have the best coach and portal class in country. Something woody wouldn’t have done.
Landry tried to do this with basketball last year and didn’t have the time to pull it off.
He now has time and got the problems (Tate and Woody) out of the way.
Oh wait, he was right and we have the best coach and portal class in country. Something woody wouldn’t have done.
Landry tried to do this with basketball last year and didn’t have the time to pull it off.
He now has time and got the problems (Tate and Woody) out of the way.
re: Join the McMen or McSTFU
Posted by ellessuuuu on 1/14/26 at 8:41 pm to BowDownToLSU
Bumping this will never get old…
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