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re: CFB Teams with 34+ ranked wins since 2015
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/17/26 at 7:30 pm to Gatorbait2008
Are these ranked teams at the conclusion of the season or ranked wins against teams that end up 4-8?
Any stat or post using anything including polls is WORTHLESS.
Some day college football fans will realize how dumb they sound when talking about their sport. No other sport with a legit playoff talks about polls. Sure, seeding in baseball, hoops, and football often depend on seeding but this constant drivel about polls is tiresome. All that matters is making the playoff. Ask FSU and ND how the polls helped them all season.
Any stat or post using anything including polls is WORTHLESS.
Some day college football fans will realize how dumb they sound when talking about their sport. No other sport with a legit playoff talks about polls. Sure, seeding in baseball, hoops, and football often depend on seeding but this constant drivel about polls is tiresome. All that matters is making the playoff. Ask FSU and ND how the polls helped them all season.
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re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/12/26 at 1:01 pm to Geauxgurt
You are simply short sighted. You are trying to compare something in the past with something that is on going. The BIG has won 3 Natties in a row. Until we get thru the next 20 years we can’t compare yet. But they are definitely on their way and could easily win 7 out of 10. Ohio State and Michigan aren’t going anywhere. Meanwhile, the only SEC team that made a big move to improve was LSU. Sure, Florida should improve but is that saying much. The team with the easiest path of all is UGA. You SEC guys keep repeating that OSU has an easy path but no one has come close to stopping the Kirby express in the SEC. They’ve won 3 out of the past 4 and return their team so they have a cake walk to the playoffs.
re: Gators Spring game observations...
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/12/26 at 12:17 pm to Jorts R Us
Every team is replacing a lot of pieces except maybe UGA. Philo has very limited playing time at GT over a 2 year period. We all know in sports there is no substitution for playing time. I hope Philo sucks as does Buster since they left my team, but the reality is Buster is a solid OC and Philo is a good QB. I expect Florida to win 8-9 games. The days of expecting double digit wins every year are long gone for a lot of programs. They just haven’t accepted it yet.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/12/26 at 12:09 pm to PrimeTime Money
Prime, no one is arguing that. You are absolutely correct that southern players would rather stay home, etc.
The problem was since only a few southern schools were paying they became juggernauts at the expense of the other southern schools. You didn’t see GT and Vandy paying. And many others. Hence, Bama, UGA, Clemson, FSU, Florida we’re able to stockpile talent. So it wasn’t just a BIG issue, it was a non-cheaters problem, As a GT guy I never complained because we all knew the open secret. I am more frustrated that my school allowed us to languish for 30 years instead of buying players. It sucked. And I never had any faith that the NCAA would actually punish anyone. A Clemson player actually posted a pic on social media when it was just getting started with a stack of Benjamins saying he just got paid and nothing, And because I’m buddies with several Auburn bagmen I know the game.
But all that is in the past now, thank god. Now, we have an open above board payment system and it has destroyed the SEC’s main advantage - and the results speak louder than words. Sure, the SEC still has several built in advantages such as a larger talent pool from the high school ranks, the recent history, the fanbases, and the women at these large campuses. But the BIG also has an advantage called money and now a 3 year track record. The SEC used their success to lead to more success which is what the BIG is now doing. Heck, Miami is also riding their post season success to getting the top portal QB.
It’s a new world and everyone except those traditional bagman teams should (and are) rejoicing that the field has leveled. The sport is much healthier when every fanbase has hope. My team just had our highest attendance in a decade and season ticket sales are high and it’s all because we have hope brought to us via the portal and payments. We have more 4 stars on our roster than we’ve ever had. And this same thing is happening all over the country. It’s why Vandy and Indiana are no longer automatic W’s.
The problem was since only a few southern schools were paying they became juggernauts at the expense of the other southern schools. You didn’t see GT and Vandy paying. And many others. Hence, Bama, UGA, Clemson, FSU, Florida we’re able to stockpile talent. So it wasn’t just a BIG issue, it was a non-cheaters problem, As a GT guy I never complained because we all knew the open secret. I am more frustrated that my school allowed us to languish for 30 years instead of buying players. It sucked. And I never had any faith that the NCAA would actually punish anyone. A Clemson player actually posted a pic on social media when it was just getting started with a stack of Benjamins saying he just got paid and nothing, And because I’m buddies with several Auburn bagmen I know the game.
But all that is in the past now, thank god. Now, we have an open above board payment system and it has destroyed the SEC’s main advantage - and the results speak louder than words. Sure, the SEC still has several built in advantages such as a larger talent pool from the high school ranks, the recent history, the fanbases, and the women at these large campuses. But the BIG also has an advantage called money and now a 3 year track record. The SEC used their success to lead to more success which is what the BIG is now doing. Heck, Miami is also riding their post season success to getting the top portal QB.
It’s a new world and everyone except those traditional bagman teams should (and are) rejoicing that the field has leveled. The sport is much healthier when every fanbase has hope. My team just had our highest attendance in a decade and season ticket sales are high and it’s all because we have hope brought to us via the portal and payments. We have more 4 stars on our roster than we’ve ever had. And this same thing is happening all over the country. It’s why Vandy and Indiana are no longer automatic W’s.
re: This gentleman would like to check in on your daughter...
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/12/26 at 11:52 am to sicboy
This is why you have to mentally prepare and know the laws of your state. I greet any knock on the door with a hand gun in my hand and I never approach from the door they are at. If they knock on the front door then I’m going out the back and walking thru my azaleas to get the drop.
It’s all about seizing the initiative. In most crimes the offender sets the time and place, Someone knocking has just lost the initiative if the homeowner uses their brain.
In this case, bring in Georgia, I would have simply set up inside with my shotgun and handgun and waited for him to enter because he needs to be inside before I can defend, I would have waited until he entered the fatal funnel and he would have been done and I would have been cleared. It’s also why I have exterior cameras but no interior cameras.
It’s all about seizing the initiative. In most crimes the offender sets the time and place, Someone knocking has just lost the initiative if the homeowner uses their brain.
In this case, bring in Georgia, I would have simply set up inside with my shotgun and handgun and waited for him to enter because he needs to be inside before I can defend, I would have waited until he entered the fatal funnel and he would have been done and I would have been cleared. It’s also why I have exterior cameras but no interior cameras.
re: USA is taking control of all international oil transfers.
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/12/26 at 11:46 am to SOSFAN
The beauty is the press has painted Trump as crazy so he is using that to his advantage here. Close the strait and dare people he’s not crazy enough to shoot at them. His Easter tweet will prove to have been brilliant as other countries have no clue what he will actually do and I doubt any country tries now. We are militarily superior by far and this break has allowed us to regroup. We are planning while Iran is surviving. The regime will fall eventually.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/11/26 at 11:46 am to sgallo3
Gallo, absolutely true and the effect which is why the SEC should have going after the portal the past 5 years instead of worrying about NIL. But for some reason they let the portal genie become a thing and no one is putting the transfer genie back in the bottle because the courts won’t allow it. The only way to handle it is for schools to refuse to take a transfer - but we know that would never happen because the minute a high level player comes up with his “excuse/exemption” because grandma has cancer or whatever you’ll schools lining up to take him. It’s a suckers game and the courts will always side with the players - as they should. Regular students transfer all the time. If someone is dumb enough to hand a kid a million bucks that’s on them.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/10/26 at 5:38 pm to chinese58
At the end of the day in 2026 none of the past matters. My team, GT, won Natties in the old days by bringing in older ringers during WWI under the “engineering” exemption - the first Natty won by a southern team (1917). Then you had teams win Natties with black players before everyone integrated. Then the perks started up which led to the bag man. The bag man has now led to NIL.
I give the SEC credit for using the system over the past 30 years to win a lot of titles by a lot of teams. It sucked for those of us whose schools wouldn’t use the system but life went in. Now we are in an era where smart coaches and smart NIL negotiating is king and the BIG is dominating. 3 straight can’t be argued.
I expect 2026 to be more of the same. I don’t know the teams because none of us know which coaches will get their transfers integrated in the quickest. I expect Ohio St to be the leader in the clubhouse. I also believe Cignetti is in the mix. I also wouldn’t be shocked to see Michigan win a lot of games. From the SEC I see 1 team with a legit shot and that’s UGA. No one else has a proven defense. I give Texas a shot with Manning who started looking good. ACC is Miami or bust but I do expect a couple of other ACC teams to have great years but the committee has shown they will screw us because Phillips is a joke of a commissioner. I have no clue about any team in the Big 12. And ND will win a lot of games just because they are a good, not great team.
I give the SEC credit for using the system over the past 30 years to win a lot of titles by a lot of teams. It sucked for those of us whose schools wouldn’t use the system but life went in. Now we are in an era where smart coaches and smart NIL negotiating is king and the BIG is dominating. 3 straight can’t be argued.
I expect 2026 to be more of the same. I don’t know the teams because none of us know which coaches will get their transfers integrated in the quickest. I expect Ohio St to be the leader in the clubhouse. I also believe Cignetti is in the mix. I also wouldn’t be shocked to see Michigan win a lot of games. From the SEC I see 1 team with a legit shot and that’s UGA. No one else has a proven defense. I give Texas a shot with Manning who started looking good. ACC is Miami or bust but I do expect a couple of other ACC teams to have great years but the committee has shown they will screw us because Phillips is a joke of a commissioner. I have no clue about any team in the Big 12. And ND will win a lot of games just because they are a good, not great team.
re: NIL has neutered the SEC in the 2 big money sports
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/10/26 at 10:54 am to BurgTiger
SEC fans love to bring up the NFL when they aren’t winning. The NFL is not college football. Who cares at all about the NFL on a college board? I don’t care how many players get drafted from my team nor my conference. Once they take off my schools jersey I don’t care what they do the next day with their lives.
The simple proof that the BIG wasn’t paying on par as the SEC during the bagman era is that the BIG didn’t win. That’s the proof. Sure, Ohio St, Michigan, and a couple others like Mich St were half assing the bagman game, but more than half the SES was all in which is why you had multiple teams win Natties. - Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, Bama, UGA, FL. That’s the proof - who won.
Now that the BIG and others can openly pay the results are speaking - the BIG and others are winning, That freaking Indiana and Miami (a lowly ACC school) just whipped Bama and all other SEC teams in their way proves it all. And this idea that its coaching is laughable and just another SEC fan excuse for losing. Was Chizik some genius? Or Orgeron? Cristobal is not a great coach by any means but the man knows how to buy players which is what it takes.
Words mean nothing - look at results.
The simple proof that the BIG wasn’t paying on par as the SEC during the bagman era is that the BIG didn’t win. That’s the proof. Sure, Ohio St, Michigan, and a couple others like Mich St were half assing the bagman game, but more than half the SES was all in which is why you had multiple teams win Natties. - Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, Bama, UGA, FL. That’s the proof - who won.
Now that the BIG and others can openly pay the results are speaking - the BIG and others are winning, That freaking Indiana and Miami (a lowly ACC school) just whipped Bama and all other SEC teams in their way proves it all. And this idea that its coaching is laughable and just another SEC fan excuse for losing. Was Chizik some genius? Or Orgeron? Cristobal is not a great coach by any means but the man knows how to buy players which is what it takes.
Words mean nothing - look at results.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/10/26 at 8:34 am to KPBuckeye87
And all this is why I say college sports should have no rules other than the rules in the field. If a team wants to have a 32 year old middle linebacker then no problem. If a team wants to have 200 on scholarship then let them. If they want to,pay someone 10 million a year let them.
Because no matter what rules are put in place the same teams who have incredible pressure to win will cheat those rules. It’s simply human nature when pressure to complete a task is present. Most teams wouldn’t do it just like most teams didn’t use the bagman system but that’s only because they are not under the same fanbase pressure to win.
Because no matter what rules are put in place the same teams who have incredible pressure to win will cheat those rules. It’s simply human nature when pressure to complete a task is present. Most teams wouldn’t do it just like most teams didn’t use the bagman system but that’s only because they are not under the same fanbase pressure to win.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/9/26 at 8:12 am to lsufanva
Like I said earlier, my analysis indicates there were probably 15-20 teams using the bagman system from all conferences. But the SEC clearly and knowingly had more doing it. That’s not a knock in them - that was good business to keep up. My team in the heart of the southeast didn’t do it and we suffered tremendously for not doing it while UGa, Bama, Auburn, FSU, Clemson all did. That’s why no 5 star outside Calvin even looked at GT. It sucked to be surrounded by sharks while you are a dolphin.
That era is over which is why everyone now has a chance. Sure, schools are still living off of past reputation for young players but in another 2-4 years the future 4 and 5 stars won’t give a rip about Saban or Bama’s past success or UGA’s back to back because those players would have been in 3rd grade when it happened. For us fans, we remember it like it was yesterday, but young people don’t have that historical perspective. All they see is Auburn has sucked, Bama is declining, UGA can’t get past the BIG, etc, etc. Heck, my team has hosted more 4 and 5 stars on visits this past year than ever in our history. And it’s all because we can pay and have shown we can coach a little. And even though we haven’t beaten UGA the whole country saw us compete toe to toe with them because their talent has fallen and our talent has risen. That’s what makes a healthy sport.
That era is over which is why everyone now has a chance. Sure, schools are still living off of past reputation for young players but in another 2-4 years the future 4 and 5 stars won’t give a rip about Saban or Bama’s past success or UGA’s back to back because those players would have been in 3rd grade when it happened. For us fans, we remember it like it was yesterday, but young people don’t have that historical perspective. All they see is Auburn has sucked, Bama is declining, UGA can’t get past the BIG, etc, etc. Heck, my team has hosted more 4 and 5 stars on visits this past year than ever in our history. And it’s all because we can pay and have shown we can coach a little. And even though we haven’t beaten UGA the whole country saw us compete toe to toe with them because their talent has fallen and our talent has risen. That’s what makes a healthy sport.
re: NCAA looking to install ‘5 to play 5’ eligibility rule
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/9/26 at 6:58 am to RTRnFlorida
Maternity leave? I already see this as the greatest exception that ever existed for the SEC? Y’all will be back on top soon with that one. Exceptions are a joke.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/8/26 at 9:46 pm to LSUChamps03
If GT had never left we’d be easily jn the top half because we traditionally were and nothing would have changed. The reason Bear Bryant and Bobby Dodd disliked each other and we left was because we actually competed with Bama and won our fair share. You didn’t see the Bear pissed at Tulane or Miss St.
Of course being successful would have come down to embracing the bagman system. I don’t know if GT would have. I do know the negative recruiting against us being in the ACC would never have taken hold. Also, admitting morons to play the lines would have been interesting.
All I know, is the portal and NIL has been the greatest tools teams like GT, Indiana, Vandy have ever been given. Half my team (exaggeration of course) is former depth pieces from the SEC which is why actually sniffed being ranked. Now we got a 5 star RB from Michigan so our offense should be solid and our defense has no where to go but up and we got a lot of portal guys in that side. I expect another 7-9 wins. I think fans just under estimate the talent on a lot of mid tier teams. When the reality is there isn’t much difference between a 4 or 3 star. Our starting QB is gonna be Mendoza”s little brother and he’s darn good. I’m not gonna say he’s the next top NFL QB but from what I hear from the closed spring practices is that our coaches love him and that he is fast and skillful which is what we need op to win a lot of ACC games, The Tennessee game will be a fun one early on after we whip Deion once again.
Of course being successful would have come down to embracing the bagman system. I don’t know if GT would have. I do know the negative recruiting against us being in the ACC would never have taken hold. Also, admitting morons to play the lines would have been interesting.
All I know, is the portal and NIL has been the greatest tools teams like GT, Indiana, Vandy have ever been given. Half my team (exaggeration of course) is former depth pieces from the SEC which is why actually sniffed being ranked. Now we got a 5 star RB from Michigan so our offense should be solid and our defense has no where to go but up and we got a lot of portal guys in that side. I expect another 7-9 wins. I think fans just under estimate the talent on a lot of mid tier teams. When the reality is there isn’t much difference between a 4 or 3 star. Our starting QB is gonna be Mendoza”s little brother and he’s darn good. I’m not gonna say he’s the next top NFL QB but from what I hear from the closed spring practices is that our coaches love him and that he is fast and skillful which is what we need op to win a lot of ACC games, The Tennessee game will be a fun one early on after we whip Deion once again.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/8/26 at 3:30 pm to LSUChamps03
Yeah, lap dog was a poor choice of words. As an SEC guy you’ve never (until now) had to deal with crap that I’ve had to deal with. I’m not looking for sympathy but the SEC fans became a cult. When Clemson won back to back no one gave the ACC any credit - it was always Clemson was an outlier. Yet, a random SEC team has a decent season and the cult screams about how great the conference is. No - it’s just a school like Vandy or Kentucky finally hired a decent coach.
I look at my team - a mid level ACC team that historically averages around 7 wins which is .500 ball when you take away the patsies. We’ve done very well against SEC schools even when we sucked. Yes, UGA owns us but they own everyone but Bama. We have whipped Auburn, Miss St, Kentucky in the recent past. Ole Miss and Tennesee have also gotten us. But outside of UGA we are generally above .500 against the SEC, yet those games have never “counted”. We play Tennessee home and home the next 2 years and I expect those games to be fun and close. Sure, they’ll be pre-season ranked because they a large stadium and rabid fanbase and we’ll be “others receiving votes” but those will be good games because now we get talented players too since we can pay.
I’m a southern homer so I’m always happy when any southern team wins, except UGA. I’m looking forward to watching the Lane Train circus and if Texas can finally break thru. But, the days of dominance are over. No one is afraid of the SEC and it’s mainly due to the lack of defense. The SEC, and all conferences, have essentially become the Big 12 with all offense and no defense. That surprises me.
I look at my team - a mid level ACC team that historically averages around 7 wins which is .500 ball when you take away the patsies. We’ve done very well against SEC schools even when we sucked. Yes, UGA owns us but they own everyone but Bama. We have whipped Auburn, Miss St, Kentucky in the recent past. Ole Miss and Tennesee have also gotten us. But outside of UGA we are generally above .500 against the SEC, yet those games have never “counted”. We play Tennessee home and home the next 2 years and I expect those games to be fun and close. Sure, they’ll be pre-season ranked because they a large stadium and rabid fanbase and we’ll be “others receiving votes” but those will be good games because now we get talented players too since we can pay.
I’m a southern homer so I’m always happy when any southern team wins, except UGA. I’m looking forward to watching the Lane Train circus and if Texas can finally break thru. But, the days of dominance are over. No one is afraid of the SEC and it’s mainly due to the lack of defense. The SEC, and all conferences, have essentially become the Big 12 with all offense and no defense. That surprises me.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/8/26 at 1:58 pm to LSUChamps03
No one had said that “only the SEC was cheating”. Out of the 138 FBS teams I’d say less than 20 were playing the bagman system. But the SEC did it better than anyone and had more teams involved - which is why they dominated for the past 3 decades. I’m not taking that away from the the SEC. They played the game of the times just like Knute Rockne, Bobby Dodd, General Neyland, and others in the past during their day.
All I’m pointing out is we are now in a new era called NIL and the BIG has dominated with 3 straight Natties by 3 different teams. That’s what the SEC use to do. Maybe the SEC will figure it all out and win 7 of the next 10. Then I’ll gladly give them credit, but right now that’s not the case.
In the past 30 years we’ve all lived thru 3 types of domination in a major sport that all had their heyday and then stepped back. 1 - the Big East in hoops with the old Georgetown, UConn, St Johns, Syracuse days. 2- the ACC in hoops who would constantly have 2-3 teams in Final Fours. 3- the SEC absolutely dominating the BCS era and 4 team playoff era.
Sure, teams in those conferences can still compete and win Natties but not at the same rate and consistency. This coming season the ACC has one 1 football team with a chance - Miami. The SEC has one - UGA. The BIG has several. That’s just reality.
Now, can we all argue our team has a path to a Natty? Of course. That’s why we watch but we all know deep down that our teams would have to play way above their norm to win 3-4 playoff games let alone get an invite.
And polls are a joke and no longer matter with an expanded playoff. The committee has shown us they are a joke. FSU got hosed a few years ago. ND got hosed last year. I expect an SEC team to get hosed this December because the public pressure not to reward them will be high. It ain’t right but that’s been the history. You guys just haven’t had to experience the past 25 years but now that the BIG is the top tier welcome to my world of being a lap dog.
All I’m pointing out is we are now in a new era called NIL and the BIG has dominated with 3 straight Natties by 3 different teams. That’s what the SEC use to do. Maybe the SEC will figure it all out and win 7 of the next 10. Then I’ll gladly give them credit, but right now that’s not the case.
In the past 30 years we’ve all lived thru 3 types of domination in a major sport that all had their heyday and then stepped back. 1 - the Big East in hoops with the old Georgetown, UConn, St Johns, Syracuse days. 2- the ACC in hoops who would constantly have 2-3 teams in Final Fours. 3- the SEC absolutely dominating the BCS era and 4 team playoff era.
Sure, teams in those conferences can still compete and win Natties but not at the same rate and consistency. This coming season the ACC has one 1 football team with a chance - Miami. The SEC has one - UGA. The BIG has several. That’s just reality.
Now, can we all argue our team has a path to a Natty? Of course. That’s why we watch but we all know deep down that our teams would have to play way above their norm to win 3-4 playoff games let alone get an invite.
And polls are a joke and no longer matter with an expanded playoff. The committee has shown us they are a joke. FSU got hosed a few years ago. ND got hosed last year. I expect an SEC team to get hosed this December because the public pressure not to reward them will be high. It ain’t right but that’s been the history. You guys just haven’t had to experience the past 25 years but now that the BIG is the top tier welcome to my world of being a lap dog.
re: Next up on the “everything is racist” list….A well kept lawn is based in white supremacy
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/8/26 at 10:26 am to 91TIGER
She’s wearing glasses which isn’t her natural state. And glasses were created by whitey.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/8/26 at 10:23 am to LSUChamps03
Anyone who uses polls in an argument is really a clueless fan. Polls are nothing but opinion and mean nothing. And worse than that polls are collusive entities that will prop up the money makers aka ESPN. The SEC will always be over populated in the polls until they are no longer in business with ESPN.
The entire country watched the “highly ranked” SEC get exposed, aka they LOST games against other conferences. Yet, we have fans bringing up post season polls? Zero logic. In a playoff system the post season poll is a poll of 1 - Indiana. No one cares who finished 2nd or 19th.
The entire country watched the “highly ranked” SEC get exposed, aka they LOST games against other conferences. Yet, we have fans bringing up post season polls? Zero logic. In a playoff system the post season poll is a poll of 1 - Indiana. No one cares who finished 2nd or 19th.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/7/26 at 4:57 pm to GoGators1995
The one’s coping are Bama fans who know their run is over like ND fans have finally accepted. I know exactly why my team was mid level for decades. And I know exactly why your team won. The entire world knows.
But that era is over. You guys talking about 3 years not meaning anything sound just like my ACC brethren in hoops a decade ago. Well, here we are a decade later and ACC hoops is still mid level. Just like SEC football’s dominance is over. Sure, individual teams can still win a Natty but the days of having 3 out of 4 in the Semi’s are over.
My team has 4 Natties we are proud of and we have more SEC titles than most current SEC teams. I don’t need to cope because I don’t live and die on the scoreboard. We play Tennessee this year. Sure, I want to win and talk trash and beat my chest like any other fan, but if we lose it’s not the end of the world because neither my team nor Tennessee has a legit chance at a Natty.
But that era is over. You guys talking about 3 years not meaning anything sound just like my ACC brethren in hoops a decade ago. Well, here we are a decade later and ACC hoops is still mid level. Just like SEC football’s dominance is over. Sure, individual teams can still win a Natty but the days of having 3 out of 4 in the Semi’s are over.
My team has 4 Natties we are proud of and we have more SEC titles than most current SEC teams. I don’t need to cope because I don’t live and die on the scoreboard. We play Tennessee this year. Sure, I want to win and talk trash and beat my chest like any other fan, but if we lose it’s not the end of the world because neither my team nor Tennessee has a legit chance at a Natty.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/7/26 at 3:40 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
We all wish our teams had been cheating. As a GT guy I’ve always said we were stupid for not playing the game like others were. By the late 80’s this was no longer a gentlemen’s sport and we should have been cheating to compete instead of pissing away 20 years.
As for better coaches come on with that. Saban was at Mich St and won nothing until he aligned with the bagmen in Tuscaloosa. He played it perfectly but he isn’t some great coach. Look at Cignetti- he didn’t suddenly become a hundred times better coach but he did get a hundred times better player pool and magically won. Gene Chizik won a freaking Natty using the bagman system and no one says he’s a genius coach.
The entire sport’s history is fake because it’s never been a fair sport. I will say Saban is the GOAT of the bagman system. I will say Cignetti is the GOAT portal coach so far. I will say Kiffen is the GOAT of getting AD’s to buy him.
But this new era is wide open for any team willing to pay. Indiana will always be the new marker in college football. The ND era of the mid to 1900’s is long gone. The Bama dynasty is over. The SEC domination is over. The field is now wide open to whoever pays and coaches. I think it’s great for the sport.
As for better coaches come on with that. Saban was at Mich St and won nothing until he aligned with the bagmen in Tuscaloosa. He played it perfectly but he isn’t some great coach. Look at Cignetti- he didn’t suddenly become a hundred times better coach but he did get a hundred times better player pool and magically won. Gene Chizik won a freaking Natty using the bagman system and no one says he’s a genius coach.
The entire sport’s history is fake because it’s never been a fair sport. I will say Saban is the GOAT of the bagman system. I will say Cignetti is the GOAT portal coach so far. I will say Kiffen is the GOAT of getting AD’s to buy him.
But this new era is wide open for any team willing to pay. Indiana will always be the new marker in college football. The ND era of the mid to 1900’s is long gone. The Bama dynasty is over. The SEC domination is over. The field is now wide open to whoever pays and coaches. I think it’s great for the sport.
re: So, is it kinda true the SEC was cheating way more than anyone else pre NIL?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/7/26 at 1:50 pm to TheTideMustRoll
You SEC guys who say things like “everyone was paying” and the bagman was is just us “coping” have no clue what you are talking about.
If everyone was paying then schools like Vandy, Arkansas, UNC, GT, Miss St wouldn’t have sucked for years because they would have bought better players. A very few teams were clearly and provably paying - and it worked.
I’m in South Georgia and have several Auburn bagmen in my town and circles. It wasn’t even a secret in what the high level kids were offered from Bama, UGA, and Auburn. I knew several GT recruiters who worked these counties and they straight up said how GT offers the same players but we’ll never get them when they are offered a car or a bag in those days. I remember one of my Auburn buddies who straight up said they were so tired of losing players to Bama that they upped the pay scale and won that Natty with Cam in offense and studs on defense. That wasn’t organic. It’s what Indiana just did and it works.
And yes the portal has crushed the SEC way more because this is where the players are. I posted 2 years ago that the SEC should accept NIL openly but fight the portal at every step. But they didn’t so now your depth has gone to Vandy and GT when you could till be hoarding them.
I knew the SEC dominance was over when Harbaugh opened a Michigan camp in South Georgia during one summer. In the old days the good ole boys would have shut that down quickly. Instead he walked away with some 4 stars.
If everyone was paying then schools like Vandy, Arkansas, UNC, GT, Miss St wouldn’t have sucked for years because they would have bought better players. A very few teams were clearly and provably paying - and it worked.
I’m in South Georgia and have several Auburn bagmen in my town and circles. It wasn’t even a secret in what the high level kids were offered from Bama, UGA, and Auburn. I knew several GT recruiters who worked these counties and they straight up said how GT offers the same players but we’ll never get them when they are offered a car or a bag in those days. I remember one of my Auburn buddies who straight up said they were so tired of losing players to Bama that they upped the pay scale and won that Natty with Cam in offense and studs on defense. That wasn’t organic. It’s what Indiana just did and it works.
And yes the portal has crushed the SEC way more because this is where the players are. I posted 2 years ago that the SEC should accept NIL openly but fight the portal at every step. But they didn’t so now your depth has gone to Vandy and GT when you could till be hoarding them.
I knew the SEC dominance was over when Harbaugh opened a Michigan camp in South Georgia during one summer. In the old days the good ole boys would have shut that down quickly. Instead he walked away with some 4 stars.
re: The SEC dynasty collapsed: What comes next?
Posted by RunningJacket on 4/6/26 at 4:50 pm to ReauxlTide222
No one is saying the SEC is buried.
There is a vast difference in saying the SEC is no longer dominant and saying the SEC is now buried. That’s the problem with commentary - it’s always the extremes which is rarely true.
My point as a 50plus year college football fan who watches way more games than I should is that the SEC is now just another conference. No better, no worse. They’ll win some Natties and not win some Natties. Just like the other conferences will.
I love SEC football. I also love ACC and BIG football. I also love those late night west coast games.
Everyone should root for their team and then enjoy the post season as a celebration of the sport. And if your team or conference wins then have fun with it. But you SEC fans had just gotten way to over the top as you dominated the sport. Believe me, if BIG fans start spouting nonsense then I’ll call then out too. But the expanded playoffs have shown that the BCS and 4 team playoffs will eventually be given asterisks by fans in the future.
There is a vast difference in saying the SEC is no longer dominant and saying the SEC is now buried. That’s the problem with commentary - it’s always the extremes which is rarely true.
My point as a 50plus year college football fan who watches way more games than I should is that the SEC is now just another conference. No better, no worse. They’ll win some Natties and not win some Natties. Just like the other conferences will.
I love SEC football. I also love ACC and BIG football. I also love those late night west coast games.
Everyone should root for their team and then enjoy the post season as a celebration of the sport. And if your team or conference wins then have fun with it. But you SEC fans had just gotten way to over the top as you dominated the sport. Believe me, if BIG fans start spouting nonsense then I’ll call then out too. But the expanded playoffs have shown that the BCS and 4 team playoffs will eventually be given asterisks by fans in the future.
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