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I have certainly displayed more intelligence than any of you have (save CWilken21 and TigersColts). At least I do not make random statements/opinions without some sort of statistical fact to back it up.
I have used a civil tone only to be attacked with names that have seemingly been plucked straight out of the recess yard of an elementary school. "Old Piss", "Old Myth", "Oxfart"? Really?
These "insults" are comming from grown men? I just cannot believe such a thing to be true.
As far as the SECW banner at VHS, officially, we did share the crown with LSU. Personally, I would not have had made or hung that banner given that we lost the tie-breaker with your Tigers due to the head-to-head results, but, hey, that wasn't my call.
And to the one of you that cited Ole Miss fans (I'm sure directed at me) talking of next year, if I am not mistaken, that is the whole point of the current thread (opening line being, and I quote "does anyone else here think that ole miss will not be all that they are getting cracked up to be next season?" end quote), hence my talking up next year. Seems as though would have got that.
I have used a civil tone only to be attacked with names that have seemingly been plucked straight out of the recess yard of an elementary school. "Old Piss", "Old Myth", "Oxfart"? Really?
These "insults" are comming from grown men? I just cannot believe such a thing to be true.
As far as the SECW banner at VHS, officially, we did share the crown with LSU. Personally, I would not have had made or hung that banner given that we lost the tie-breaker with your Tigers due to the head-to-head results, but, hey, that wasn't my call.
And to the one of you that cited Ole Miss fans (I'm sure directed at me) talking of next year, if I am not mistaken, that is the whole point of the current thread (opening line being, and I quote "does anyone else here think that ole miss will not be all that they are getting cracked up to be next season?" end quote), hence my talking up next year. Seems as though would have got that.
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What is :rotflmao: to me is that you are so utterly clueless.
re: 2009 outlook for ole miss
Posted by ATLReb on 7/5/09 at 6:39 am to Ancientiger
Just a quick question, I know very little about this site, and am wondering if prehaps I have stumbled upon the 13 & under board?
Pre-pubescent names like "Old Piss", "Old Myth", "Oxfart" and others lead me to believe that I must be.
Also infantile mutterings like "Ole Miss can't rush" and "The Ole Miss D will suck" just has to mean that I'm on the elementary school message board-right?
Pre-pubescent names like "Old Piss", "Old Myth", "Oxfart" and others lead me to believe that I must be.
Also infantile mutterings like "Ole Miss can't rush" and "The Ole Miss D will suck" just has to mean that I'm on the elementary school message board-right?
I have no problem at all believeing that :blah:
re: 2009 outlook for ole miss
Posted by ATLReb on 7/5/09 at 4:47 am to ColtsTigers
Top 5? On the whole team? Wow.Okay then. May we just agree to disagree there?
As for short and stubby players, I don't know that I will buy that either. Clair is 6'5"/305, Washington is 6'4"/337-that does not sanction them as short and stubby in my book.
Did you see Jevan Snead play at all last season? I would hardly qualify him as a pocket passer. The guy is elusive enough. Sure, noone is going to mistake him for Michael Vick, but acting as though he has no mobility is a bit of a stretch.
Overall, he only gained 57 yrds last season, but as we all know sacks go against that total. In reality, when rushing, Snead gained 187 yrds and 3 TD's, and another ten or so yard scamper for a TD that was called back against FLA.
Again, not Michael Vick, but I am sure that you see my point...
As for short and stubby players, I don't know that I will buy that either. Clair is 6'5"/305, Washington is 6'4"/337-that does not sanction them as short and stubby in my book.
Did you see Jevan Snead play at all last season? I would hardly qualify him as a pocket passer. The guy is elusive enough. Sure, noone is going to mistake him for Michael Vick, but acting as though he has no mobility is a bit of a stretch.
Overall, he only gained 57 yrds last season, but as we all know sacks go against that total. In reality, when rushing, Snead gained 187 yrds and 3 TD's, and another ten or so yard scamper for a TD that was called back against FLA.
Again, not Michael Vick, but I am sure that you see my point...
re: 2009 outlook for ole miss
Posted by ATLReb on 7/5/09 at 4:11 am to ColtsTigers
Again, an un-truth. We have some depth, mind you, not alot, so Massie being at LT is not because "that is all we had". In addition, the good news is that the depth that we do have are pretty darn interchangable. Brandon Green will be doing much of that. Not to mention Washington, Clair, and Tatum.
Also, don't sleep on what Daverin Geralds will do to help the young Mr Sowell in pass protection.
Now, I will never downplay what the loss of Michael Oher means to this team, but one player does not a team make, especially when it is a player that is not one of a "skilled position".
Also, don't sleep on what Daverin Geralds will do to help the young Mr Sowell in pass protection.
Now, I will never downplay what the loss of Michael Oher means to this team, but one player does not a team make, especially when it is a player that is not one of a "skilled position".
re: 2009 outlook for ole miss
Posted by ATLReb on 7/5/09 at 3:51 am to ColtsTigers
ColtsTigers, no, it was no recruiting ploy for recruiting purposes, to tell Massie that he will play the LT position. At least for this season. Write it down, he is Sowells back-up.
And yes, as silly as it sounds, I am getting my info from the shorts and t-shirt phase of preseason training. Everything I have heard says that he has taken what was once a sort of a dough-boy physique, and turned it into the picture of an SEC tackle sort of body.In addition to that, he has been working on quickness and footwork technique. Now, being in Atlanta, I have not seen this with my own two eyes, but I was told that he has either met or surpassed all the goals that the coaching staff has put before him and that (for once) he is seemingly excited to "get this party started".
And yes, as silly as it sounds, I am getting my info from the shorts and t-shirt phase of preseason training. Everything I have heard says that he has taken what was once a sort of a dough-boy physique, and turned it into the picture of an SEC tackle sort of body.In addition to that, he has been working on quickness and footwork technique. Now, being in Atlanta, I have not seen this with my own two eyes, but I was told that he has either met or surpassed all the goals that the coaching staff has put before him and that (for once) he is seemingly excited to "get this party started".
re: 2009 outlook for ole miss
Posted by ATLReb on 7/5/09 at 3:29 am to EastBankTiger
ColtsTigers, I can see your point about Sowell. He was demoted in order to "get his mind right". I am saying that he is ready to go because probably not much unlike yourself in terms of LSU knowledge, I know alot of people close to the Ole Miss athletic dept.,which is where I get my insider knowledge. Now you might site a certain bias here.However, two of the guys I know call a spade a spade, and if it kills them, they tend to call it as they see it. And they say there is not a whole lot to worry about concerning Sowell.
As for Massie, no, he is not at all a "right tackle" type. He was recruited to play the position he played at Hargrave Military, which was LT.
As for Massie, no, he is not at all a "right tackle" type. He was recruited to play the position he played at Hargrave Military, which was LT.
Awesome post! :cheers:
ColtsTigers, you are right. Replacing Oher is by far the biggest obsticle that the Rebels have going into the season.
However, you do not have to be USC to have a solid player to plug into the system. We have that. The young mans name is Bradly Sowell, who will be backed up by 5* recruit Bobbie Massie. Neither gentlemen will equal Michael Oher, combined even, but we don't need them to. And as for Sowell, so far, so good. he is holding his own quite well against one of the best front seven in the SEC. And for Ole Miss, the cool thing about that is, the front seven that I speak of happen to be on the same team as he.
However, you do not have to be USC to have a solid player to plug into the system. We have that. The young mans name is Bradly Sowell, who will be backed up by 5* recruit Bobbie Massie. Neither gentlemen will equal Michael Oher, combined even, but we don't need them to. And as for Sowell, so far, so good. he is holding his own quite well against one of the best front seven in the SEC. And for Ole Miss, the cool thing about that is, the front seven that I speak of happen to be on the same team as he.
tigeraj22, could you please dazzle us with reasons you see Ole Miss at 3rd or 4th in the West? :popcorn:
re: 2009 outlook for ole miss
Posted by ATLReb on 7/5/09 at 2:53 am to Cheetah Flex
*Please see page 3 of the "Brando on Fienbaum today" thread. A little knowledge there fo' ya.
re: Brando on Finebaum today
Posted by ATLReb on 7/5/09 at 12:04 am to PinevilleTiger
One and two star athletes? really?
Funny the feces that spews from your keyboard mouth. You continue on with your arrogant ways, but yet have almost no knowledge of what you speak.That is funny to me, because one my Dad's favorite sayings while I was growing up was "Stupid people sure can be annoying, but at least they're not arrogant"
Also keep in mind that all of the so-called-recruiting-machines you have mentioned have had major dips in their history. Fla under Zook= not a machine, USC under Hackett=not a machine, OU under Blake=not a machine, even your Tigers under DiNardo=not a machine.
Championship programs are built and henceforth must start somewhere.
Oh yeah, and Chief? the abbreviation for the word etcetera is "etc", not "ect".
You're welcome.
Funny the feces that spews from your keyboard mouth. You continue on with your arrogant ways, but yet have almost no knowledge of what you speak.That is funny to me, because one my Dad's favorite sayings while I was growing up was "Stupid people sure can be annoying, but at least they're not arrogant"
Also keep in mind that all of the so-called-recruiting-machines you have mentioned have had major dips in their history. Fla under Zook= not a machine, USC under Hackett=not a machine, OU under Blake=not a machine, even your Tigers under DiNardo=not a machine.
Championship programs are built and henceforth must start somewhere.
Oh yeah, and Chief? the abbreviation for the word etcetera is "etc", not "ect".
You're welcome.
Finally, a decent and well put arguement. Thank you, CWilken21.
Your "pluses" concerning the Rebels plight were well put, and where I do not suppose that they can be, as a whole, be proven facts without the benefit of intense research, let's just say that I agree.
As far as your negatives, allow me to rebut those in sequential order:
1.) Your point about the Rebs being a .500 team at VHS is a bit skewed. One must remember that includes a full three seasons under the tutelage of one Ed Orgeron (worst mistake in OM football history, and yes, that includes the Steve Sloan debacle). This also includes a rather unfortuitous recruiting job by the Cutcliffe regime, pretty much throughout their tenure, but paticularly following the Eli Manning era.
As far as the record a season ago is concerned, as has been pointed out by college football experts across the land, that team last year was just beginning to gain some confidence, i.e. learning how to win. This is made evident by the "tale of two halves", if you will-
First 6 games: 3-3
Last 6 games: 5-1
2.) Before I get into Houston Nutt, I would first like to say that the lofty preseason accolades are very much deserved, whether you consider Nutt to be a "choke artist" or not, the talent is undeniably there.
However, as far as HDN goes, you are right, his strength does lie within his ability to motivate players, this much is true. Also true is the fact that while at Arkansas when the team was highly touted, they did have a tendency to fall flat.
Let me tell you why that will not be an occourance at Ole Miss. First off at Ark, Nutt had AD Frank Broyles in his back pocket, for Broyles, it was "Yes Sir, Mr Nutt" and "No Sir, Mr. Nutt". Not gonna happen in Oxford.
Secondly, at Ark, Nutt was his own OC (save the one Malzhan season that brought the Springdale 5 to Fayetteville, and ultimately resulted in HDN's "resignation"). Not so, at Ole Miss. The Rebels have an OC that Nutt must listen to. For that gentleman is non-other than Kent Austin, former QB at where? That's right, Ole Miss. And believe me, you will hear that name over and over in the very near future.
3.) Of course the love of the Rebels is derived from last year, and why shouldn't it? They have most everyone of substance returning this year. You bring up Oher and Harris' departure (and no, you are wrong about the run blocking on the left side, Oher was not a "great" run blocker, hence his fall in the draft). No problem. Bradly Sowell and Rishaw Johnson will do just fine in their absence as they did a season ago filling in for the afore mentioned Oher and Harris (not as though we are trotting out newbies). And Miller not being on the depth chart is also not a problem due to the emergence of Reid Neely. Also look for guys named Washington,Clair,Green, and blockbuster recruit Bobbie Massie.
To conclude, yes, we will not only challenge for SECW crown, but are favored to do so.This whole "not being able to rush" idea is ridiculous (did you not factor in that all RB's are back?), and only time will tell, but those media members you speak of know alot more than you or I, so, I, as all Rebel Faithful, cannot wait until kickoff.
Your "pluses" concerning the Rebels plight were well put, and where I do not suppose that they can be, as a whole, be proven facts without the benefit of intense research, let's just say that I agree.
As far as your negatives, allow me to rebut those in sequential order:
1.) Your point about the Rebs being a .500 team at VHS is a bit skewed. One must remember that includes a full three seasons under the tutelage of one Ed Orgeron (worst mistake in OM football history, and yes, that includes the Steve Sloan debacle). This also includes a rather unfortuitous recruiting job by the Cutcliffe regime, pretty much throughout their tenure, but paticularly following the Eli Manning era.
As far as the record a season ago is concerned, as has been pointed out by college football experts across the land, that team last year was just beginning to gain some confidence, i.e. learning how to win. This is made evident by the "tale of two halves", if you will-
First 6 games: 3-3
Last 6 games: 5-1
2.) Before I get into Houston Nutt, I would first like to say that the lofty preseason accolades are very much deserved, whether you consider Nutt to be a "choke artist" or not, the talent is undeniably there.
However, as far as HDN goes, you are right, his strength does lie within his ability to motivate players, this much is true. Also true is the fact that while at Arkansas when the team was highly touted, they did have a tendency to fall flat.
Let me tell you why that will not be an occourance at Ole Miss. First off at Ark, Nutt had AD Frank Broyles in his back pocket, for Broyles, it was "Yes Sir, Mr Nutt" and "No Sir, Mr. Nutt". Not gonna happen in Oxford.
Secondly, at Ark, Nutt was his own OC (save the one Malzhan season that brought the Springdale 5 to Fayetteville, and ultimately resulted in HDN's "resignation"). Not so, at Ole Miss. The Rebels have an OC that Nutt must listen to. For that gentleman is non-other than Kent Austin, former QB at where? That's right, Ole Miss. And believe me, you will hear that name over and over in the very near future.
3.) Of course the love of the Rebels is derived from last year, and why shouldn't it? They have most everyone of substance returning this year. You bring up Oher and Harris' departure (and no, you are wrong about the run blocking on the left side, Oher was not a "great" run blocker, hence his fall in the draft). No problem. Bradly Sowell and Rishaw Johnson will do just fine in their absence as they did a season ago filling in for the afore mentioned Oher and Harris (not as though we are trotting out newbies). And Miller not being on the depth chart is also not a problem due to the emergence of Reid Neely. Also look for guys named Washington,Clair,Green, and blockbuster recruit Bobbie Massie.
To conclude, yes, we will not only challenge for SECW crown, but are favored to do so.This whole "not being able to rush" idea is ridiculous (did you not factor in that all RB's are back?), and only time will tell, but those media members you speak of know alot more than you or I, so, I, as all Rebel Faithful, cannot wait until kickoff.
Again, with the intelligence, amazing!
Look, Otis, I'll say it again, through the eyes of history, LSU has a vast lead over the Rebels. I know this and can readily admit it.
But here's the thing, right now, today, here in the year 2009, Ole Miss is the superior team.Period. End of story.
I made a rebuttle towards one of your esteemed colleagues concerning both the rush offense and rush defense of our team, and in turn, asked for an intelligent response to debunk anything that I might have had to allow.
Oh, but no!! You can't do that can you? I can only guess that the reason for this is lack of "smarts" on your part.You sterotype the fanbase, calling me "typical" (which I was shocked that you were able to spell correctly), and resort to name calling. This, my friend, is the crutch of the inarticulate. No, Otis, tis not I that is the "dumbass"-no, sir-that condition is one that falls directly upon your shoulders
Look, Otis, I'll say it again, through the eyes of history, LSU has a vast lead over the Rebels. I know this and can readily admit it.
But here's the thing, right now, today, here in the year 2009, Ole Miss is the superior team.Period. End of story.
I made a rebuttle towards one of your esteemed colleagues concerning both the rush offense and rush defense of our team, and in turn, asked for an intelligent response to debunk anything that I might have had to allow.
Oh, but no!! You can't do that can you? I can only guess that the reason for this is lack of "smarts" on your part.You sterotype the fanbase, calling me "typical" (which I was shocked that you were able to spell correctly), and resort to name calling. This, my friend, is the crutch of the inarticulate. No, Otis, tis not I that is the "dumbass"-no, sir-that condition is one that falls directly upon your shoulders
Very intelligent, well thought out comebacks outta you guys. I mean, you have really put me in my place. "ole piss" hurts, and it hurts deep.The astute level of debate prowess that you have displayed here is really, really something that lends itself unto greatness.
The attention to detail, the uncanny use of statistics, the eloquent wordsmith style...absolutely mind boggling.
Bravo, Tiger Nation, Bravo!
But just as a last ditch effort, you know, with you guys beating me down as you have, and being that I, like all Rebel fans, live in the past, I have one word for you...
...scoreboard! 31-13
Now if anyone could actually offer something with even the tiniest amount of intellect, well, that'd just be super.
The attention to detail, the uncanny use of statistics, the eloquent wordsmith style...absolutely mind boggling.
Bravo, Tiger Nation, Bravo!
But just as a last ditch effort, you know, with you guys beating me down as you have, and being that I, like all Rebel fans, live in the past, I have one word for you...
...scoreboard! 31-13
Now if anyone could actually offer something with even the tiniest amount of intellect, well, that'd just be super.
If you read the post, you would have the ability to answer to your own question.
"OM will have a tough time running the ball and an even tougher time stopping the run"
Hello folks. This is my first post, and honestly, I do not normally post on a board belonging to a rival.In fact, this will be time numero uno, and I hate the post will be one that will carry a negative sentiment.
To preface said negative statement, I will indeed condede that LSU sports have throughout history trumped the programs of my beloved Rebels, pretty much top to bottom, give or take a year here and a year there.
However, when one is posting on a board such as this one, should he/she not at least know the slighest bit about what they speak of? If you are/were ignorant to the facts, wouldn't most intelligent minded people just choose to keep their opinions to themselves?
I thought so.
So that said, to imply that the 2009 Rebels will have a tough time rushing the football is asinine, to say the least. You see, in 2008, Ole Miss was 2nd only to Florida in rushing offense.The 2009 squad returns every man that had a rushing attempt a season ago. A reasonable soul could conclude when faced with those statistics, that Ole Miss will run the ball with the best of the best...Nationwide.
Moving on. To say that the Rebels will have even a harder time stopping the run is less ingenious than the prior statment. For once agian, in 2008, Ole Miss was 2nd in the SEC against the run (Alabama was 1st). The 2009 squad returns all of the front seven, save Peria Jerry (yes, big loss), but got deeper for the upcomming season. Again, a smart man/woman should know better than to make such a claim.
In closing, I don't know what will happen when the Tigers meet the Rebels in Oxford, I will even go so far to say that if your boys walk out of VHS victorious, I will not be surprised in the least.
You hate us, we hate you, we can all agree on that, but to make the above statement is pure, unadulterated silliness.
Thank you, and good day.
:pimp:
Hello folks. This is my first post, and honestly, I do not normally post on a board belonging to a rival.In fact, this will be time numero uno, and I hate the post will be one that will carry a negative sentiment.
To preface said negative statement, I will indeed condede that LSU sports have throughout history trumped the programs of my beloved Rebels, pretty much top to bottom, give or take a year here and a year there.
However, when one is posting on a board such as this one, should he/she not at least know the slighest bit about what they speak of? If you are/were ignorant to the facts, wouldn't most intelligent minded people just choose to keep their opinions to themselves?
I thought so.
So that said, to imply that the 2009 Rebels will have a tough time rushing the football is asinine, to say the least. You see, in 2008, Ole Miss was 2nd only to Florida in rushing offense.The 2009 squad returns every man that had a rushing attempt a season ago. A reasonable soul could conclude when faced with those statistics, that Ole Miss will run the ball with the best of the best...Nationwide.
Moving on. To say that the Rebels will have even a harder time stopping the run is less ingenious than the prior statment. For once agian, in 2008, Ole Miss was 2nd in the SEC against the run (Alabama was 1st). The 2009 squad returns all of the front seven, save Peria Jerry (yes, big loss), but got deeper for the upcomming season. Again, a smart man/woman should know better than to make such a claim.
In closing, I don't know what will happen when the Tigers meet the Rebels in Oxford, I will even go so far to say that if your boys walk out of VHS victorious, I will not be surprised in the least.
You hate us, we hate you, we can all agree on that, but to make the above statement is pure, unadulterated silliness.
Thank you, and good day.
:pimp:
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