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Thirteen
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re: Officer cell phone footage released
Posted by Thirteen on 1/9/26 at 3:01 pm to Big Scrub TX
yes her reckless behavior was a risk to someone nearby getting hurt
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re: Officer cell phone footage released
Posted by Thirteen on 1/9/26 at 2:56 pm to the808bass
what logical fallacy is that? I think it's the strawman logical fallacy. You arguing against something I didn't say because that's the only way you can make a point.
cheers!
cheers!
I think most people using reason and good faith can drawing a line for all the different situations.
For example, can we agree not ok to kill someone if they are threatening to break my pinky?
Is ok to kill someone to stop them from raping me?
Is it ok to kill someone for not providing a drivers license? Is it ok to kill someone passed out driving in a moving car? Is it ok to kill someone fleeing an arrest? It is ok to kill someone fleeing an arrest and whether or not i shoot them will make no difference to my own safety?
For example, can we agree not ok to kill someone if they are threatening to break my pinky?
Is ok to kill someone to stop them from raping me?
Is it ok to kill someone for not providing a drivers license? Is it ok to kill someone passed out driving in a moving car? Is it ok to kill someone fleeing an arrest? It is ok to kill someone fleeing an arrest and whether or not i shoot them will make no difference to my own safety?
Yes, I think when the car started moving and he was in front of it he had reason to believe he was facing serious injury.
I know the next question, and, it's why I brought up the point of a passed out driver. If a car with a passed out driver is in close quarters heading towards a cop, is he right to shoot to kill the passed out driver?
I know the next question, and, it's why I brought up the point of a passed out driver. If a car with a passed out driver is in close quarters heading towards a cop, is he right to shoot to kill the passed out driver?
re: Officer cell phone footage released
Posted by Thirteen on 1/9/26 at 2:48 pm to Willie Stroker
did the shooting save his life or did him getting out of the way save his life?
honestly, in your opinion, what good did the shooting do to protect himself? If he had not shot her you think he would have been hit?
honestly, in your opinion, what good did the shooting do to protect himself? If he had not shot her you think he would have been hit?
re: Officer cell phone footage released
Posted by Thirteen on 1/9/26 at 2:45 pm to the808bass
thank you for your attention to this matter!
re: Officer cell phone footage released
Posted by Thirteen on 1/9/26 at 2:43 pm to Vacherie Saint
I assumed you were not so stupid that you could gues it is implied that is the case for saving the life of another.
My guess is, you are take these opportunities to make stupid points because you can never actually make a good argument and this worthless contribution is the best you can do.
thank you!
My guess is, you are take these opportunities to make stupid points because you can never actually make a good argument and this worthless contribution is the best you can do.
thank you!
yes it's justified for rape.
re: Officer cell phone footage released
Posted by Thirteen on 1/9/26 at 2:39 pm to BuckeyeGoon
"and whether or not the officer had reason to believe she was trying to kill"
that addresses your point. if someone is pointing a gun at me i very well may have reason to believe they are trying to kill me whether or not that is their intent.
that addresses your point. if someone is pointing a gun at me i very well may have reason to believe they are trying to kill me whether or not that is their intent.
re: Officer cell phone footage released
Posted by Thirteen on 1/9/26 at 2:36 pm to the808bass
I wrote at the least he made a mistake. Would need more information to draw any more of a conclusion. To me most probable thing that happened is he freaked out in a scary situation and made a regrettable mistake.
I would like there to be some consequences for his mistake such that in the future it's known if you make this mistake there will be consequences.
I'm a big supporter of protesting in general, it's good for society. But it's got to be peaceful. I've seen lots of video of very dumb protesting and I think it's wrong for the protestors to provoke law enforcement. I wish they would get trained up in protesting like people in the MLK era. But they aren't and it sucks.
I would like there to be some consequences for his mistake such that in the future it's known if you make this mistake there will be consequences.
I'm a big supporter of protesting in general, it's good for society. But it's got to be peaceful. I've seen lots of video of very dumb protesting and I think it's wrong for the protestors to provoke law enforcement. I wish they would get trained up in protesting like people in the MLK era. But they aren't and it sucks.
re: Officer cell phone footage released
Posted by Thirteen on 1/9/26 at 2:27 pm to the808bass
You are like a pharisee. I'm not talking about legality. Legality is like lowest bar of ethics/morality. I support the legal system, it's useful, we need it, but, it's only the arbiter of right and wrong for pharisees and idiots.
Most reasonable people would agree that you can only kill someone in self defense. You can only kill in self defense when there is no other reasonable option to save your self.
If there is a person passed out in a car and the car is heading toward a police officer it would be wrong for the officer to shoot the person.
On the other hand, if there is a bad/crooked cop, and that cop is trying to kill an innocent person by running them over, it's ok for the innocent person to shoot the bad cop if there is no other option.
It's the same rule for cop or citizen, you can't kill someone unless it's the only way to save yourself.
We can all agree cops can't kill someone for jay walking, cops can't kill someone for drug dealing, cops can't kill someone for punching the cop.
Whether or not the woman in Minnesota was trying to kill the officer, and whether or not the officer had reason to believe she was trying to kill him is very important. If she was being reckless, that's not a justification to kill her. The only justification is whether that's the only way he could save himself.
At the very least the officer made a mistake. Shooting her in no way saved his life. Jumping out of the way saved his life.
I don't understand how anyone can watch that video, hear the lady, see her turn the wheel to the right, and then conclude it was her goal to kill him. Was she reckless? Yes for sure.
If there is a person passed out in a car and the car is heading toward a police officer it would be wrong for the officer to shoot the person.
On the other hand, if there is a bad/crooked cop, and that cop is trying to kill an innocent person by running them over, it's ok for the innocent person to shoot the bad cop if there is no other option.
It's the same rule for cop or citizen, you can't kill someone unless it's the only way to save yourself.
We can all agree cops can't kill someone for jay walking, cops can't kill someone for drug dealing, cops can't kill someone for punching the cop.
Whether or not the woman in Minnesota was trying to kill the officer, and whether or not the officer had reason to believe she was trying to kill him is very important. If she was being reckless, that's not a justification to kill her. The only justification is whether that's the only way he could save himself.
At the very least the officer made a mistake. Shooting her in no way saved his life. Jumping out of the way saved his life.
I don't understand how anyone can watch that video, hear the lady, see her turn the wheel to the right, and then conclude it was her goal to kill him. Was she reckless? Yes for sure.
re: Do Democrats care more about non US citizens than actual US citizens?
Posted by Thirteen on 12/31/25 at 10:34 am to FLBooGoTigs1
No, Democrats do not care more about non US citizens than actual US citizens. And if you believe they do, it indicates you have been suckered by propaganda.
re: Is Trump gaining momentum?
Posted by Thirteen on 12/24/25 at 3:52 pm to cajuntiger1010
data point for your consideration:
US Real GPD growth from:
Q4 2023 to Q3 2024 = 1.93%
Q4 2024 to Q3 2025 = 1.86%
Source, St Louis FED LINK
US Real GPD growth from:
Q4 2023 to Q3 2024 = 1.93%
Q4 2024 to Q3 2025 = 1.86%
Source, St Louis FED LINK
re: DJT statement on Rob Reiner.
Posted by Thirteen on 12/15/25 at 3:18 pm to Bunk Moreland
can't believe the guy who said "grab 'em by the pussy" also made this post
These are caricatures of people.
If this is how you view the left, I think it means you are in an info stream that only presents to you the idiots of the left. There are plenty of idiots on both the left and right. If your info stream is only giving you the idiot version of the other side what does that say about your info stream?
If this is how you view the left, I think it means you are in an info stream that only presents to you the idiots of the left. There are plenty of idiots on both the left and right. If your info stream is only giving you the idiot version of the other side what does that say about your info stream?
Honest question - are you referring to people you've actually met, or, is this more about what you see online?
It's a matter of what's most important.
What's most important to our well-being as a society is freedom and rule of law. Trump is eroding the rule of law. Democrats have as well, but Trump much more aggressively. Look around at other countries and you can see how important the rule of law is.
The results of Trump's erosion of the rule of law will not appear over night. It's like a long term compounding investment, but negative. Slowly over time we'll be poorer and poorer and less free.
Drive from Northern Europe to Southern Europe and I think you'll see the effects of the rule of law.
If you can agree with that, the next question is what is the truth regarding what Trump is doing to the rule of law.
What's most important to our well-being as a society is freedom and rule of law. Trump is eroding the rule of law. Democrats have as well, but Trump much more aggressively. Look around at other countries and you can see how important the rule of law is.
The results of Trump's erosion of the rule of law will not appear over night. It's like a long term compounding investment, but negative. Slowly over time we'll be poorer and poorer and less free.
Drive from Northern Europe to Southern Europe and I think you'll see the effects of the rule of law.
If you can agree with that, the next question is what is the truth regarding what Trump is doing to the rule of law.
re: Comey case will be dismissed b/c Halligan's appointment was unlawful
Posted by Thirteen on 11/24/25 at 5:21 pm to IvoryBillMatt
In layman's terms, what crime did Comey commit?
My values are we are all created equal and we all have equal dignity as children of God regardless of gender, race, etc. In my assessment there is enormous economic injustice right now that makes lives of the working poor much worse than justice demands.
In America right now the left is closer to my values. The right has become the party of fear and grievance. The right is the party of tax cuts for the rich, tax increases for the poor (tariffs), inhumane treatment of illegal immigrants, mass corruption.
It's really not so much that the left is great, but, that the right in America has become so bad at the moment. If there were conservatives worth a shite I'd have no problem voting for them.
In America right now the left is closer to my values. The right has become the party of fear and grievance. The right is the party of tax cuts for the rich, tax increases for the poor (tariffs), inhumane treatment of illegal immigrants, mass corruption.
It's really not so much that the left is great, but, that the right in America has become so bad at the moment. If there were conservatives worth a shite I'd have no problem voting for them.
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