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Tigerlaff
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re: I’m having trouble justifying my stance against the death penalty…
Posted by Tigerlaff on 4/19/26 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's what they think is legal. I'm not saying it is, it's just an AG policy memo. But the general idea is that you can put a drug kingpin to death for ordering murders even if they take no physical part in it. No idea if it's ever been pursued.
That's what they think is legal. I'm not saying it is, it's just an AG policy memo. But the general idea is that you can put a drug kingpin to death for ordering murders even if they take no physical part in it. No idea if it's ever been pursued.
re: I’m having trouble justifying my stance against the death penalty…
Posted by Tigerlaff on 4/19/26 at 11:31 am to wadewilson
Did you read the rest of the post? You took one paragraph at the very end to suggest that was the entire argument. The point is that our own founders recognized the need for societal vengeance for crimes less heinous than this one like treason but that he thinks we need to get to a place where even something like this can go without capital punishment. It's just not possible long term.
re: I’m having trouble justifying my stance against the death penalty…
Posted by Tigerlaff on 4/19/26 at 11:03 am to OKBoomerSooner
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I think it's a problem when the counterargument is pure bloodlust and not rooted in any rational basis for why execution, specifically, is needed over imprisonment until they die.
The bloodlust is exactly the rational basis for the death penalty. When the state suffers monsters like this to go on living it just radicalizes normies. The whole point of the state is to take retributive violence out of the hands of private individuals/families/clans so that you can have a civil society without blood feuds and war lords.
Your position seems to imply that the real solution is to remove or ignore the desire for just vengeance in the heart of man so that we can live in a nice pragmatic little state that doesn't make lethal mistakes. My position is that when someone rapes and kills a 7 year old and is recorded doing it, human nature and even cosmic order itself demands that the ultimate price be paid. And when our institutions routinely fail to ensure that price gets paid, they invite the very chaos they were designed to prevent. They invite internet threads full of college educated middle class normies demanding horrific torture at the hands of the state when the state should have put a bullet in his head immediately after trial.
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Before he covered the camera inside the truck, Horner made a chilling statement: “You’re really pretty. You know that?”
Jurors later heard Horner tell Athena to take her shirt off and her say "no" while asking for her mom. The audio from the attack continued for more than an hour and included crying, screaming and banging.
Jurors were visibly shaken and sobbing. For at least part of the recording, Horner was seen with his head down.
The video evidence was not the only testimony presented Thursday. Athena’s father, Jacob Strand, also took the stand.
Strand testified about how his daughter's murder affected his life, saying he turned to alcohol and that it ruined his marriage. He said, as a man and as her father, he feels like he should have been there to protect his child.
The federal government can put you to death for treason, espionage, and large scale drug trafficking. But we can't kill this guy? You are the irrational one here, not human nature.
Yes I have a lot of thoughts on spice zee. I have not harvested fruit yet but it does have fruit set after 1 year in the ground. The fruit is universally regarded as excellent by everyone though, so let me tell you about the other stuff.
This thing probably needs 200 chill hours. It is not as pest and fungus prone as a peach tree, but it's not far off. To keep the leaves intact and the fruit clean and viable, you will have to have a spray regimen. I spray this tree more than any other I own with fungicides and pesticides and have been able to keep the leaves about 90% clean. Very minor pest damage on the leaves. The largest fruit on the tree is about the size of a walnut and I can already see that it has been penetrated by a boring insect, likely a beetle or wasp. So that one is ruined. I did have to thin fruit as well. Vigorous grower. Does really well for me on a sandy raised mound. Gorgeous tree during the growing season and the definition of an edible ornamental.
Bottom line, do it if you're ready to work for it and will have the chill required. If you're going to just let it do its thing I would say hard pass. Absolutely not a set and forget type of tree. Definitely one where I would recommend a regular systemic fungicide like garden phos to stave off root disease.
This thing probably needs 200 chill hours. It is not as pest and fungus prone as a peach tree, but it's not far off. To keep the leaves intact and the fruit clean and viable, you will have to have a spray regimen. I spray this tree more than any other I own with fungicides and pesticides and have been able to keep the leaves about 90% clean. Very minor pest damage on the leaves. The largest fruit on the tree is about the size of a walnut and I can already see that it has been penetrated by a boring insect, likely a beetle or wasp. So that one is ruined. I did have to thin fruit as well. Vigorous grower. Does really well for me on a sandy raised mound. Gorgeous tree during the growing season and the definition of an edible ornamental.
Bottom line, do it if you're ready to work for it and will have the chill required. If you're going to just let it do its thing I would say hard pass. Absolutely not a set and forget type of tree. Definitely one where I would recommend a regular systemic fungicide like garden phos to stave off root disease.
45g cecilove mango with fruit.
Had to share this. First time I've seen this variety fruiting in a pot. This is exactly what I'm going for and why I have 2 of them.
Had to share this. First time I've seen this variety fruiting in a pot. This is exactly what I'm going for and why I have 2 of them.
For anyone out there with pawpaws who is starting to worry about them waking up, 5 of my 6 woke up a month ago and have a bunch of leaves. My biggest one, Sunflower variety, has zero leaves and just started pushing flower buds out today. Just stay patient.


You only ever hear great things about M-4. It's even got a spreading kind of growth habit and I've seen people pull them off in pots. Low disease pressure too if I remember right. Only ate one last year but it was a coconut bomb and very sweet.
Electric push mower.
:lol: dragon fruit and avocados baw. 2 things I won't touch. But you will succeed. Just a minor setback.
Planted another prosciutto unknown fig tree today. I have 2 in the ground. Best figs I've ever had. That should be the last new outdoor planting of the year.
Also had an excellent LSU Hollier fig today. This tree spent winter in the greenhouse so I have an early crop.
Lost the single lychee that my tiny tree set. I knew it was too good to be true this early on such a small tree.
Mexican cigar plant coming back from the freeze and blooming early.
Planted another prosciutto unknown fig tree today. I have 2 in the ground. Best figs I've ever had. That should be the last new outdoor planting of the year.
Also had an excellent LSU Hollier fig today. This tree spent winter in the greenhouse so I have an early crop.
Lost the single lychee that my tiny tree set. I knew it was too good to be true this early on such a small tree.
Mexican cigar plant coming back from the freeze and blooming early.
Same cold tolerance as all other edulis passionfruit. Just very hard to get in the states.
Got in my Qinmi #9 passionfruit today. This is a Chinese commercial variety developed in 2021 in Guangdong. It's a yellow passionfruit with an average brix of 18-22. That is insanely sweet for a passionfruit. This one is going to stay in a 20g pot with trellis. I paid a retarded amount for this twig and have very high hopes for it. If it succeeds, I'll give all of you cuttings.


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Avocado bare root update! All 3 look great, pushing new growth, fresh leaves, nodes about to break new branches.
This is extremely impressive and I don't care what climate you live in.
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Did foliar feeding, root stimulator, garden phos, shade ..will move them to more sun now that they recovered. Need to paint the trunks first.

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I should not have clicked on that link. Now I want a cherry tree.
Uhhh... don't look at the jaboticabas. That's where you will really get sucked in. Elite container trees. The best, really.
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Thanks I ordered one myself. There are two left. 50 bucks plus shipping, they ship on mondays
That's awesome. There is NO ONE trying cherry of the Rio Grande here. Our efforts will be foundational knowledge for future Louisiana growers. Let's blaze a trail and see what happens.
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Well my puppies got my Pickering that was just starting to flush out!
Would be an Old Yeller moment for me.
Green Dreams Nursery FL
Great outfit with a great and educational YouTube channel.
Great outfit with a great and educational YouTube channel.
Planted what should be my last in ground tree of 2026. This is Cherry of the Rio Grande (Eugenia involucrata), a special large fruited cultivar called Ben's Beaut. It produces a sweet fruit with flavor similar to a Bing cherry with an additional note of banana.
I own other Eugenia plants like Suriname cherry and grumichama, but this is the only one I believe I can get away with in the ground. In the recent Florida freezes, this plant was the only thing that was universally untouched besides loquats/figs/etc.
But what really convinced me was this YouTube video. This guy grows all kinds of container fruits like lychee and loquat in southeast Texas zone 9a. He has a cherry of the Rio Grande in a large pot that he has left outside for the last 5 years and has rooted into the ground. It survived snowmageddon in January 2025 with a low of 12F experiencing only a few inches of limb die back. In January 2026, he got below 20F and the tree is fruiting this spring. For those keeping track, that means this tree needs less protection than loquat to bear fruit in 9a. A loquat tree will take colder but its fruits and flowers won't.
I'll be excited to monitor this one and see how it performs in south Louisiana. I do not get as cold as the guy in the video and I planted in a southern facing protected location with half day sun and over canopy. I will probably protect it for the first 2 winters to let it get established. As always, blasted off the garbage bark sludge soil from the nursery and planted on a mound of sandy soil with mulch.

I own other Eugenia plants like Suriname cherry and grumichama, but this is the only one I believe I can get away with in the ground. In the recent Florida freezes, this plant was the only thing that was universally untouched besides loquats/figs/etc.
But what really convinced me was this YouTube video. This guy grows all kinds of container fruits like lychee and loquat in southeast Texas zone 9a. He has a cherry of the Rio Grande in a large pot that he has left outside for the last 5 years and has rooted into the ground. It survived snowmageddon in January 2025 with a low of 12F experiencing only a few inches of limb die back. In January 2026, he got below 20F and the tree is fruiting this spring. For those keeping track, that means this tree needs less protection than loquat to bear fruit in 9a. A loquat tree will take colder but its fruits and flowers won't.
I'll be excited to monitor this one and see how it performs in south Louisiana. I do not get as cold as the guy in the video and I planted in a southern facing protected location with half day sun and over canopy. I will probably protect it for the first 2 winters to let it get established. As always, blasted off the garbage bark sludge soil from the nursery and planted on a mound of sandy soil with mulch.

Yeah try some drought stress on the feijoa. Might force bloom.
Pawpaws looking good.
Man that fig tree is huge. If you aren't already you need to hack that thing down to 3-4 feet each winter. It will regain that size and more in a single summer and all the new wood will be fruiting wood. I bet that thing produces 30-40 gallons per year.
Pawpaws looking good.
Man that fig tree is huge. If you aren't already you need to hack that thing down to 3-4 feet each winter. It will regain that size and more in a single summer and all the new wood will be fruiting wood. I bet that thing produces 30-40 gallons per year.
Feijoa popping off.
Pawpaw graft still pushing!

Pawpaw graft still pushing!

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How do you get a 35+ gallon plastic pot full of soil and tree out of a ceramic/concrete/etc. decorative pot? You got a forklift?
Be strong and don't care about your back. That's how I handle it anyway. :lol:
Like cgrand said, just go to your local nursery and pick out some huge clay planters (prepare to pay $$$) and drop your plastic pots into the clay ones. I never recommend planting anything directly in an ornamental clay pot unless you are fine with eventually digging the tree out of it, which can be nearly impossible, or breaking the pot.
Costco has a sale on 20gal white polymer pots right now. They are great and stay cool. I think they are like $13 each.
I have tried painting the black pots white before, but be prepared to apply a couple of coats of primer first before the paint. The paint does not want to stick to the plastic and will flake off and look terrible.
Costco has a sale on 20gal white polymer pots right now. They are great and stay cool. I think they are like $13 each.
I have tried painting the black pots white before, but be prepared to apply a couple of coats of primer first before the paint. The paint does not want to stick to the plastic and will flake off and look terrible.
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