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auyushu
| Favorite team: | Auburn  |
| Location: | Surprise, AZ |
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re: Bubble BURST
Posted by auyushu on 3/3/26 at 12:35 pm to auburnnyc94
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They were good within the scheme though.
This is probably fair in terms of Kelly, he only really graded above average here at Auburn. I think you are selling CBM a bit short though, he wasn't elite but he was a solid defender, and his defensive grades reflect that at multiple stops.
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re: Bubble BURST
Posted by auyushu on 3/3/26 at 11:36 am to auburnnyc94
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Last year we had an elite defense with really only 3 players I would have considered to above average defensively.. but this bunch is exceptionally bad and gives poor effort.
I agree with your general point, but we had more than 3 last year. Denver, Broome, Cardwell, CBM, Kelly, Chaney, and Moore were all above average defensively.
This year we don't have a single player over .6 in defensive win shares, and nobody over 3 in defensive box plus/minus, which is pathetic. Only time we had that under Bruce was the first couple years and 20-21.
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Freeman and SWA will make jumps after a full season. They are solid players but need to be more physical around the rim scoring.
Agreed. We should be solid at the 4 with SWA starting and Jovic as backup. Freeman should be solid as the starting 3 in year 2 (and hopefully he makes a jump in 3 point shooting next year). Overton is good as 6th man if he comes back. Maybe Tahaad comes back, but I can't see it.
Gotta find some good talent at the 1 and 2 that can shoot threes, and two good bigs. Gonna be tough to pull in 5 elite transfers.
Best scenario at the 5 would have been a top notch transfer for starter and a good recruit 5 for backup (similar to SWA at the 4 this year). But our high school recruiting seems to be non-existent, which I don't think is feasible long term. We aren't going to outspend people for 6-7 transfer players every year.
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Ultimately I fault it on having no true one. Tahaad
This was our biggest issue, followed by a lack of three point shooting at the 1 and 2 positions in general. When you can't shoot 3s with your guards and they also suck defensively you are going to have a hard time. Combine that with Murphy being a completely average starting center with no backup at all and it's a bad combo.
I'll second Corch in that Overton surprised me some games playing much better offensively than I expected, but he was tremendously worse defensively than I expected. The combo of him, Hall, and Tahaad was just awful defensively. Once they started to show weak effort defensively it was game over.
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think this is completely fair to say and the biggest example of how Bruce fricked him over. As soon as anything goes wrong it was way too easy for the players to say "I didn't sign up to play for this guy" and we saw that.. the mentall
This in a nutshell. There is no reason the talent on this team should have gone 6-10 so far, but they clearly gave up on Steven. The effort level post Bama game compared to the rest of the season after that has been night and day, and Steven's coaching seemed to suffer after the Texas game. Seemed like all the player conflicts with him seemed to snowball things.
The issue to me is that is the sort of thing coaches rarely come back from overall. Gotta hope the money people give him a shot with NIL dollars to turn things around, but I kinda doubt it when they were forced into hiring him.
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Actually I was the first negatiger for the season when everyone was predicting preseason of 14-4 and 13-5. I said maybe 10-8.
I was more referring to reasonable folks, not guys who thought we would go 14-4 because we went to the final four last year and didn't know anything about our roster limitations. I thought your 10-8 prediction was pretty reasonable, I was thinking 11-7 or 10-8 myself preseason. And with the talent on the team that should have been doable. But obviously that didn't happen.
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Final fours are literally that important
:lol: If you are as much of a basketball fan as you seem/claim to be then you know there is a hairs breath difference between an elite eight and final four team. And much of that comes down to luck, matchups, and players getting hot at the right time.
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Jesus what a low bar compared to two literal final 4s.
We made a sweet sixteen and elite eight during that run in back to back years. You are sounding pretty pathetic with the excuse making right now and discounting anything pre-Bruce.
He's the best coach we've ever had no doubt, but Sonny Smith made the tournament in 5 of 11 years and Bruce 6 if 11 (obviously would have been 7 without COVID). But they both made it past the second round an equal amount of times.
I agree with you that Steven deserves a second year based on the shite show he was handed, but you are acting like Bruce brought us actual titles based on your commentary on how we owed him stuff. We only owe him stuff if an actual sustainable basketball program results from Bruce's era. If not it's only a moderate step up from the Sonny Smith era in the long term.
And no we aren't tanked or close yet, but on the flip side we shouldn't let Steven hang around for 4 years and bring us there. And the fact that Bruce forced the money guys to hire Steven by quitting last second is going to screw Steven in terms of support and NIL, which wouldn't have happened if he had coached at a mid major like he should have.
re: Do we even need a Game thread vs Ole Miss
Posted by auyushu on 2/28/26 at 10:00 pm to RandySavage
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The roster wasn't close to a title contends but it absolutely is good enough to be in the tournament.
Exactly. Most reasonable folks like Ben, myself and others were calling this a 9 seed type team before the season (Corch was the high end guy calling us a 7 seed team I think). The roster wasn't great and had holes, and was very unbalanced. But we definitely have a much better roster than Miss St and Ole Miss. Steven has straight up got out coached in pretty much every game since the Texas game minus the Kentucky game. And versus Kentucky they just out sucked us.
The roster wasn't awesome but we have zero business being 6-10 in SEC play right now.
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People have such terrible memories or just didn’t start following b-ball until we started having success with Bruce, but as bad as this is, it is still light years better than pre Bruce b-ball.
Get the frick out of here with this bullshite. Yes, Bruce was the best thing that's happened to Auburn basketball and brought us to heights we haven't seen before.
But the people who have terrible memories or just started watching basketball are the ones who are acting like we never had success without Bruce. I grew up watching us make 5 straight NCAA tournaments in the 80s (young auyushu was very sad when the 83 Barkley team got upset by Richmond, and was ecstatic watching the sweet sixteen and elite eight runs). I also was a cliff dweller during my time at Auburn and watched Ellis build a solid program.
Did we suck between Ellis and Bruce, yes. Should we run our program into the ground because Bruce built us back up due to misplaced gratitude to him? Hell no.
Steven won't be fired after this season (and shouldn't be). But if he doesn't do a massive turnaround of the roster and make the tournament next season he needs to be fired.
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We owed Bruce this. I’m still not sold Steven is a lost cause but we owed Bruce
BS. If Steven had gone to a mid major and shown any sort of success then we would have owed it to him to hire him after Bruce retired. The way Bruce quit last second to backdoor Steven in as coach was a disservice to Auburn fans and Steven. And we are both paying for it.
re: Do we even need a Game thread vs Ole Miss
Posted by auyushu on 2/28/26 at 9:27 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Our team is so amazingly brain dead on so many levels. It's incredible.
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You let people get going then they’ll start hitting the tough ones too.
Yep. And as Jang said, our defender may have been in decent position but wasn't aggressively defending the shooter. When you just stand there and let them go up without a hand in their vicinity they get the rhythm shot.
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did. Think the Hall suspension broke their spirit.
Yeah, the effort/energy level has been massively different after. Just a different feel to the team.
Even with a potential tournament bud on the line with an energetic crowd at home, an Ole Miss team on a 10 game losing streak is playing with twice our energy level.
It is impressive how we just refuse to close out on the three in the corner leaving them wide open, over and over. Despite them not really hurting us inside or off the dribble too much and almost half their points coming from three.
re: Do we even need a Game thread vs Ole Miss
Posted by auyushu on 2/28/26 at 8:08 pm to Fearless_and_True
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when we don’t have the paint players, we’re having to cover high/low at the same time.
We covered the 3 just fine during the 2017, 18, and 19 seasons without a shot blocking rim protector, you don't need a massive shot block guy to not give up threes at a ridiculous rate.
We just suck defensively, and Corch's take that we can't defend the three without a Broome/Cardwell type is just a bad take. Most teams in the country don't have that and cover the 3 way better than us.
re: Scottsdale recs
Posted by auyushu on 2/27/26 at 10:02 pm to honeybadger07
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Any recs on golf courses and hikes would be appreciated as well! Will have a rental car.
Not sure how far you are wanting to drive for hikes, but I'd recommend the Sedona area for really cool scenic views. In particular the West fork trail of Oak creek canyon just north of Sedona should be gorgeous during October with the leaves having changed color. The west fork trail would be my #1 suggestion for hikes around the area, but there are several around Sedona that are really cool.
In town Dreamy Draw trails are just west of where you are looking at staying, and you have Camelback mountain a little west too for more strenuous elevation hikes.
re: Auburn on the Bubble
Posted by auyushu on 2/25/26 at 5:34 pm to Auburn1968
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Somehow, I don't think this team is going to make a big run if they get in.
No doubt this is the likely scenario, but we've only been to the tournament 14 times in our history. Being able to add 1 more to that list is a great thing even if we get bounced in the first round.
And you never know if you happen to get lucky and just have great matchups that allow you to steal some games and make some noise.
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has been a good not great series (liked the Greatcoats more) how was his other series if anyone’s started it
I have an aversion to starting any unfinished series unless they are on Kindle Unlimited these days due to so many high profile authors flaking out, so I've been waiting till he's finished his Malevolent seven and Court of Shadows book series to read them, despite loving Greatcoats and really liking Spellslinger (Parfax is an awesome character to me).
It's also why I hadn't read Kristoff's Empire of the dawn books despite loving his first trilogy of books. I'll have to pick that up after I finish Anthony Ryan's Covenant of steel trilogy now that it's finished.
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Grimdark is fine. Pretty sure Malazan desensitized me to a lot lol.
Yeah, not much I've read was worse than the character that suffered the hobbling in the second to last book.
His Kharsa books are another I'm waiting till they are finished to start.
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There’s not enough nuance or authenticity in the way that these men show the full range of their emotions,
As someone who has taught high schoolers for the last 13 years in title 1 schools, the next time I hear a student use the word nuance will be the first, and the next time I hear them talk about the authenticity of a mans emotions in a movie or show will be the first.
And :lol: at 99% of Gen alphas even knowing what the Pitt or that Heated Rivalry (never heard of it) shows are.
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dont really care about the Walkers out there. I want them to stick around but I want depth.
Yep, if he's able to progress and be a 8th or 9th guy in the rotation have him stick around, if not eh, who cares. He's got a killer 3 point shot though, which we need badly. But he would need to make huge strides defensively. But if he makes those strides and can be average defensively you wind up with a guy like Nickel at Vandy, which is pretty valuable.
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