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We look a lot more aggressive in the attack so far. Pretty refreshing to see forward passes and 1 touch football after what seems like an age of pass it around the shell sideways and whip in a hopeful cross. Goals should come today.
Just like baseball, analytics have fundamentally changed the game.
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TIL Abercrombie and Fitch still exists



They've actually got some awesome NFL merch that's good material and is true to size

From a marketing standpoint, they're getting a late start here. Strictly from a business perspective, the majority of Americans are overweight. Why would you not target a majority audience
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I wouldn't go that far but I'm starting to think the system Womack runs is going to have trouble attracting any big time talent as far as defensive linemen are concerned


Won't have anything to do with it. Elite high school defensive linemen aren't smart enough to decipher truth from bullshite when it comes to how they'll be used in a scheme.

We aren't attracting elite defensive linemen in the portal because we can't afford them. As far as HS recruiting goes, we just signed 2 top 10 defensive linemen. Bama, LSU, and USC all signed 2.
If it's a rectangular shaped area of manicured grass in Brazil, it's a pitch
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If I’m Borussia Dortmund, I’m supposed to be Real Madrid’s competition, not selling players to them


And every now and then it lines up that way- but you can't ignore the money aspect.

Dortmund relies on player sales to generate revenue, but their model is to be the best at recruiting and developing young talent that costs them little to nothing.

RM is the biggest club in the world, they don't need to sell players to make money...and lately they don't need to buy players, they just tamper and convince guys they want to run down their contract and sign them for free


If this were enacted into college football it would reduce transfers by 90%. You would see a lot of the really high end 5 star guys out of high school sign 1-2 year contracts, but the meat and potatoes of everyone's team would be there for their entire careers which is how it used to be
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He has no reason to leave


He's got a chance at being a top 5 pick in this years draft. He has all the reason to leave
Pull the handle and bash it with your shoulder. It should open.

Once you get it open it’s pretty easy to reset the tensioner, should just be some little plastic tabs you lift, move, reset
That kid is a a few side curls away from being the most jewish looking guy in Mississippi.
Our midweek games are never going to start on time. SEC basketball games last 3.5 hours
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Alabama was just better at paying players when it was illegal.

You couldn't seriously look at their players cars and believe they werent being paid


This is the dumbest shite I've read on this website today. You could go to any football facility in the SEC and see the parking lot filled with high end cars. Dodge chargers aren't exactly range rovers and lambos. But if you think LSU or Florida or Tennessee weren't doing the same shite then I don't know what to tell you. That is peak naivete
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How do the “losing clubs” in European soccer determine a price? If I’m Tech, every kid on my roster costs $20MM


To an extent, the market determines the price- but this is where shrewd GM's come into play. And again, the player has to agree to the transfer. Tech couldn't just sell their backup QB to Monroe because monroe needs a QB and tech needs money- the player/kid has to agree to it

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Then again, I guess that makes it harder for me to get kids to come to Tech in the first place if I have a reputation for trapping them there, so maybe the market would self-regulate
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You're exactly right. It's what makes a club like Borussia Dortmund attractive to so many super talented young players. They know they will get excellent training, play on a good team, but the club will sell them on to a bigger team when they're ready.

I think in college football, a difference would be that transfer fees would have to be capped. That would be the version of a "salary cap" that still allows somewhat freedom of movement for the player. If they're good enough to transfer they aren't going to be trapped by their current school placing an outrageous tag on their head. But just like in soccer, it doesn't kill you to get rid of a wantaway because you can reinvest that money
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And when it happens, and players are staying in college for 5-7 years while making more than their NFL counterparts, what happens then?


Well college kids are shortsighted, so in the short term it hurts the NFL, because you have 25 year old rookies. By the time they are hitting their football IQ prime, there bodies are past their prime.

In the long term it hurts the players. Instead of being 25 years old and going for that second contract that sets you for life, now you're 28-30 years old, and you aren't going to get that second contract that creates generational wealth.
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Not even exaggerating, I would take a new non-LSU monolithic dynasty….heck, or even the revival of an old one, if we could simply go back to college football being college football.

For me that’s an easy call everyday and twice on Sunday. Parity is overrated. Yeah maybe I hated Bama but at least I could also respect what they were because getting there amounted to way more than throwing money at kids.


I agree, but pandora's box has been opened at this point. There's no going back on paying the kids..but there absolutely has to be guardrails.

I think the only model that works, given the amount of teams in college football and the vast discrepancies in income for each school (club) is the European soccer model.

Johnny halfback signs a 3 year contract with Georgia Tech out of high school. After his sophomore season, he decides he wants to go play at Tennessee. Georgia Tech has put a 4 million dollar price tag on Johnny's head. Tennessee must pay Georgia Tech 4 million dollars as a transfer fee, and then whatever wages Johnny's agent has negotiated with Tennessee.

If Tennessee and Johnny can't come to terms (this typically happens before the transfer in soccer) or if Tennessee and Georgia Tech can't come to terms, then Johnny is just stuck at Georgia Tech, unless another school meets his valuation and he agrees to go there.

If Tennessee pays the price, now Georgia Tech has 4 million dollars to reinvest wherever they see fit. Johnny can also run down his contract, and freely leave Georgia Tech after his junior year to wherever he chooses. A player could also have a release clause in his contract. This would likely be standard practice for a kid like Keisean Henderson. A highly rated prospect that's signing with a school like Houston might sign under the pretense of "If Ohio State wants to sign in my junior year, they can trigger my release clause of 3 million dollars." The player still has to agree to the move, but this eliminates universities haggling over a transfer fee or overpricing a transfer fee.

That is what this sport needs if we're going to have pay for play. A paid athlete shouldn't be able to just jump teams on a whim. It doesn't happen in any other sport. They have agents, they're being paid, they need to be under contracts.

This protects the schools and allows coaches to recruit and develop kids to their scheme without being hung out to dry at the 11th hour

You would obviously have to tweak to an extent and couldn't just adopt the full model. I think there would have to be caps on transfer fees to just prevent a school from saying this kid will cost 100 million dollars. Maybe QBs have a 4 million dollar cap. Tackles and edge rushers have a 3.5 million dollar cap, etc.
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Imagine being a scholarship worthy HS senior and not getting any offers because a few thousand 25-30 year olds that aren't good enough to go pro refuse to stop playing CFB

That's where we're headed


Not necessarily. The kids only good enough for Kent State and Akron and Troy will still have room. The limits were raised to 105 from 85, so that's 2,120 additional scholarships. Those 25-30 year olds won't be playing at Troy and Akron. They'll get more money to go play at a higher level by the time they're that age, because they'll be grown men that can help bigger programs.

What this is going to do is what it was always going to do...turn the smaller programs into feeder schools
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Saban packed it in because he couldn't stack his roster as efficiently as he could in the old era, which gave him competitive advantage.



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That's a byproduct of being 72 years old. The oldest coach in college football right now is a 73 year old Bill Belichik.

He was 12-0 in year two at Alabama and won the natty in year 3. He's the greatest of all time. Building a deep roster was a component of that, but so was elite coaching, preparation, and development.

He had the #2 overall class signed the week before he retired. The year before that he had the #1 overall class, which really just blows your argument up completely.

re: Johnny Hamcheck

Posted by Riseupfromtherubble on 1/13/26 at 1:08 pm to
If you like Johnny Hamcheck, check out Ed Bassmaster.
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The Texans just feel like the laziest branding in the league


Cleveland is named after a color

Their logo is a football helmet, that's a different color.
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Maybe some younger ones as well. Cash out on the last contract and live off investments on the beach.


Those will be the exception, not the norm.

I mean guys are getting paid a lot less to manage AA baseball teams and play games in places like Montgomery, AL and Pearl, MS and they deal with weekly roster turnover.

I think as long as they're getting paid 10-12 million dollars a year they will suck it up and be miserable. Every now and then a Chris Petersen will come along.

Kirby has talked about it before, but he's too much of a football psycho to actually retire early.

Saban coached longer than most. He retired in his 70's. That's been rare for some time now, so I'm not sure he's really a good example of what you're trying to get across.
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I don't think we're the paupers people think we are but there is a clear divide between the top teams that can offer competitive offers and top teams that can beat any offer if they want to close the deal.


It's definitely tiered.

Tier 1:
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Oregon
Ohio State
Miami

If one of those schools is outbid on a player that they really want, it was by another school in that tier

Tier 2:
Michigan
Indiana

Can pay up for anybody, but more judicious in how they spend

Tier 3 is probably about where we fall, but it's the lower end of tier 3. High end tier 3 looks like what LSU, Tennessee, and Ole Miss do in the portal. Low end looks like what Alabama, South Carolina, and Kentucky do in the portal. I think when you're where we are you have to be meticulous and exercise some foresight. It's not a crime to roll over earmarked funds to the next window, but you just can not leave gaping holes in your roster without falling behind.

People keep comparing the current model to the NFL, but that's just not accurate .The NFL operates under a salary cap. This is much more similar to MLB, where you have the rich teams and everyone else.

NIL doesn't kill our program, but it does reduce it to hoping for lightning in a bottle. The teams in tier 1 will be the group that's in the hunt every year. When you can't fill a two deep with elite players because you can't afford to, you need 2 things: Elite coaching and elite quarterback play

You have to hope that you get the home team discount on the high schoolers you develop when they're juniors. But realistically, you have to expect that the "good" players and depth pieces will continue to leave en masse when they're juniors to a school in tier 1. The russaw's, smith's, formby's, and Keeley's of the program- guys that aren't stars but that we really need, they will continue to transfer up to tier 1