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re: I have been tough on people leaving early for over 20 years but..

Posted by Tiger Lord on 9/22/24 at 7:58 am to NorthEndZone

The network execs who schedule day games in Tiger Stadium should be required to sit in the east stands.

There was a time when the networks received death threats for scheduling such things in Tiger Stadium. The good ol' days.

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re: No SEC School Would Have Hired O As HC

Posted by Tiger Lord on 11/26/16 at 11:42 am to madddoggydawg

I like the hire because I think he'll win games.

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re: Hoping for some Southern Tailgate Hospitality

Posted by Tiger Lord on 11/3/16 at 8:42 pm to ctowntiger

Wear a Texas shirt with an LSU hat or vice-versa. That way, people will heckle the shite out of you and then offer you a drink. If you're decked out in LSU gear, no one will give you the time of day.

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re: Roy King is suing LSU

Posted by Tiger Lord on 5/8/16 at 5:18 pm to deuce985

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Who gives a flying frick about an ex-band director? Nobody is going to give a single frick about this so it's not really bad press because nobody cares.

Of course you are correct. That's why there are SEVEN pages on this thread and counting, because nobody cares.

Pure genius.

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re: Roy King is suing LSU

Posted by Tiger Lord on 5/7/16 at 1:06 pm to catholictigerfan

My immediate thoughts (and before all of the facts are in) are these:

1. I was in TGBFTL with Roy King, and know on a personal level almost everyone involved in this story, including F. King Alexander.

2. I do not personally know the Dean of Music, but have known previous Deans.

3. I do think that TGBFTL is less than it has been in the past and would very much like to see it return to its glory days--but I also believe it is a VERY good band as these things go.

4. I believe there is no greater cess-pool of petty political hacks, no greater nest of back-stabbing power-grabbers, and no higher concentration of smug and self-congratulating bastards than higher education--and I believe that LSU is no exception to this rule.

5. I believe that Roy King has very likely been insubordinate, careless with money, and that it is absolutely true that he broke the policy against nepotism.

6. I believe it is highly unlikely that any employee at LSU cannot be convicted of even a mild form of insubordination, and so the real question is whether or not the charge of insubordination is real and substantive. It certainly doesn't have to be.

7. I believe that universities are notorious for subverting "donor intent," (particularly after the death of the donor) applying bequests to what they, the University, decide to spend money on--even if it directly contradicts the donor's intent.

8. I know for a fact that some deans and university presidents will purge anyone standing in their way, through any means possible. I know for a fact that this has happened at LSU--but I do not know whether such a scenario describes F. King Alexander or the current Dean of Music.

9. Roy is done and will not be returning as director of TGBFTL.

10. I am in favor of TGBFTL returning to its glory days.

11. I am doubtful that ceding additional control of the band to the Dean of Music is likely to accomplish such a goal--indeed, I am rather certain that the band will be worse.

12. Donors to the University and to TGBFTL should pay close attention to the outcome.

13. Whatever the outcome, it would restore confidence in TGBFTL if the University would form a committee composed of TGBFTL alumni to evaluate the "outcome" and make proposals to benefit the band. Those proposals should have teeth so that whatever doubts are raised by this sordid affair can be put to rest.

14. The Golden Band from Tigerland has been better, but is still one of the nation's best, formed out of an esprit de corps that is thoroughly and rabidly purple and gold. This could easily become lost under the thumb of an indifferent bureaucrat, not native to Louisiana, who is just "passing through" on the way to his next career posting. This University deserves the BEST, if for no other reason than because we could so easily BE the best.

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re: What's up LSU

Posted by Tiger Lord on 12/4/14 at 3:37 pm to Harry Rex Vonner

Love hurts...

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re: What's up LSU

Posted by Tiger Lord on 12/4/14 at 3:33 pm to Harry Rex Vonner

What'd I say?!?

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re: What's up LSU

Posted by Tiger Lord on 12/4/14 at 3:29 pm to Harry Rex Vonner

We love those pigs of yours too! They do an awful lot of squealing' and squallin' whenever they lose, more than Aggies, even, and sometimes for years on end, and their faces get so funny whenever they try and figure out why the scoreboard is light on their side of the ledger, but all in all, they're a fun bunch, and tasty, too!

I've heard you prefer outhouses to your own women because the hole is smaller and it smells better, and I'd love to send you poor bastards some of our charity cases but, well, we just ain't got no spare gorillas. Ta-ta for now, and write again real soon!

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re: Paul Dietzel has passed away at the age of 89

Posted by Tiger Lord on 9/25/13 at 9:34 am to Abadeebadaba

LINK

I particularly liked this comment about Coach Dietzel in the South Carolina press:

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I was a waiter at South of the Border back in the day when "Pepsodent Paul" was at USC and he was down one night having dinner with his good buddy Alan Shafer (who owned the Border). He was charming the pants off every person in the place when possibly the biggest Clemson fan in Dillon county muttered, "I can see why he has got good teams. Give him five minutes alone with a recruit's mother and they'd BOTH be going to Carolina." He was a class act.

America has lost a great man, LSU a great Tiger.

Requiescat In Pace, Paul Dietzel

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re: Statue of the original Fighting Tigers?

Posted by Tiger Lord on 11/30/11 at 8:33 pm to WildTchoupitoulas

Gentlemen, I am afraid that Wild Tchoupitoulas has got the drop on me. No argument in favor of honoring the Louisiana Tigers can withstand the relentless assault of his exquisite reason. But W.T., would you bear with me for a few more moments--I'm very dull in these matters and want for nothing but an education.

I'm sure that with a few more answers you can win me completely over to your point of view.

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First of all,you're posting this on a FOOTBALL MESSAGE BOARD. I'm just trying to stay on message. Secondly, if you ask most LSU fans what is more important to them, the causes of the Civil War or winning football championships, most would say winning football championships.

Forgive this first question, but I thought it was permissible to bring a fully developed citizenship into a football discussion. Should I check my other interests at the door and restrict myself only to discussing what is good for football alone?

Is it really that stark of a choice--Confederate cause or football championship? I only ask because some folks are foolish enough to think that honoring history and winning football championships are not mutually exclusive items.

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That's fine, but neither Wheat nor his Tiger Rifles ever had anything to do with LSU, so we don't need to honor them on campus.

You are 100% correct--Wheat and the Tiger Rifles had nothing to do with L.S.U. But, if I may try your patience a bit, isn't it the other way around? Isn't it L.S.U. that has something to do with Wheat and the Tiger Rifles? Aren't we named for them? I'm sure I've misunderstood your line of reasoning--a regrettable habit of mine, I'm afraid.

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Sherman, on the other hand, was integral to the formation of LSU, and victory for the Union so why don't you attack those that disparage him? I notice you're giving me a lot of flak, but ignoring those who don't care to honor him. Why aren't you clamouring for a statue to Billy Sherman? No, you're focusing all of your efforts on me. And here I am just wanting football championships - and a statue of Sherman.

You've caught me again--oh when will I learn? Consistency in my position demands that Billy should be honored as well as the Tigers. Perhaps we can set them up facing one another with glowering scowls. I would rather like that.

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No, I'm just insisting that we keep the more controversial ones off of campus. Your argument, while eloquent is specious. You cannot honestly argue for a Civial War memorial with Confederate soldiers on campus without raising eyebrows. Are you that naive?

You are wise to avoid controversy. Your support of a statue to Billy Sherman proves it. I want to be as uncontroversial as you and only needed a mentor to help me reach my uncontroversial potential--for which you have my lasting gratitude.

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Oh my god, who switched over to LPB? Get over yourself.

Sorry for partying?

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I never said anywhere that the virtues you listed could not be honored, now you're just making shite up to suit some pre-conceived notion you have of me. I'm an 8th generation Louisianian with a great-great-grandfather that joined the 7th Louisiana Volunteer Cavalry Regiment and fought at Franklin, La. I'm a 3rd generation LSU man. I'm sorry that my state left the Union - I happen to love my country - I'm also sorry that so many in my state can't seem to get past this ridiculous subject.

I know how you feel, my way-back great-grandaddy fought in the Revolutionary War against Mother England and I've never forgiven him for it. Revolution, secession--whitewash it however you like--it ain't ever right.

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It's just a DUMB idea to honor Civil War soldiers on LSU's campus.

I am a new man for having met you! Heaven bless and keep you--for I am now resolved to let go of my inner blockhead and ignore the boob-brained notion that something could be learned from an accurate portrayal of what actually happened.

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However, honoring the Washington Artillery would be relevent, and not as controversial as Sherman or the confederate soldiers.

I know that I will eventually learn everything I know from you, but Teacher, stay your anger with this ignoramus a bit longer and tell me how we can honor the notorious slave-holder and treasonous traitor Washington?

I have always regretted the past I was born with and would have given anything to change it--you know, re-write the script, punch up the dialogue with some snappy witticisms and above all, bring in a better cast.

Show me the way...I am your acolyte forever.

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re: Statue of the original Fighting Tigers?

Posted by Tiger Lord on 11/30/11 at 2:10 pm to WildTchoupitoulas

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The Truth is a greased pig, and it's not my opinions I'm talking about here, IF YOU HAD READ MY POST you would notice that it's the perceptions of the families of the young men WE WANT TO BRING HERE that matter most in terms of GETTING THOSE YOUNG MEN TO PLAY HERE.

You don't care what those families think? Fine put up your statues to Forrest, Beauregard, Lee and Wheat. I happen to care what they think, and want to create an environment on campus where those young men will feel welcomed.

Why is that so hard to comprehend?

"It" is difficult to comprehend because we are talking past one another.

You have a starting premise which is, apparently, that the only thing that should matter to Louisiana State University and its partisans is attracting football talent--and that the only way to accomplish this is to ignore historic facts.

The rest of us are trying to figure out how to deal with historic truths in a way that honors all of Louisiana and her citizens, past, present and future.

You insist it cannot be done, and some of us disagree with you.

The South's historic impurities are woven alongside the South's virtues--virtues which were then and continue to be distinctive and attractive. Those virtues--loyalty to one's kith and kin, hospitality, the art of the hunt, of the table and of conversation, to name a few--are part and parcel of southern exceptionalism.

You refuse to believe that the virtues can be honored apart from the vices--but that's your problem.

I am also sensing that you think the young men we recruit are either too stupid or too apathetic to understand how one can honor a flawed past. And yet we do it every day with the deeply flawed figure of Martin Luther King, Jr.

It ain't that hard, really.

Why is that so hard to comprehend?

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re: Statue of the original Fighting Tigers?

Posted by Tiger Lord on 11/30/11 at 10:38 am to WildTchoupitoulas

Where, oh where to begin, Wild Tchoupitoulas?

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There are no pictures of the original Washington Artillery because photography wasn't invented yet.

You are very nearly correct--however Louis Daguerre took his first photographs in Paris a year before the Washington Artillery was founded.

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You people are total idiots.

One of my favorite ways to engage people in the art of persuasion.

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Without getting into actual historical reasons for the Civil War, the PERCEPTION of the reasons for the War by families of most of the young men that play for the university is that the War was fought to protect an institution that enslaved their ancestors.

This is the only truthful part of your several posts.

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It doesn't matter what you think because we don't expect you gto go out on the field and score touchdowns, it matters what the families of the young men that we are trying to recruit to play here think.

And why, exactly, doesn't it matter what a group of citizens think? How, exactly, do you decide which group of citizens is thinking legitimately and which are not? Your dismissal of what some Louisiana citizens think is important is just as arrogant and high handed as those who would dismiss your opinions, is it not?

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We do NOT want to be Ole Miss.

Based on Ole Miss's recent embrace of political correctness it would seem that your position would be better stated as "We do want to be Ole Miss."

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Besides, the Washington Artillery Tigers have a longer history in Louisiana and aren't as controversial as a bunch of immigrant thugs shanghaied into fighting Americans.

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Isn't that the topic being discussed the first Tigers? Didn't the OP state: "How cool would it be to have a statue of the original battalion that the Tigers derived thier name from" ? Why don't you just quit showing off that you read Jones' Lee's Tigers, other people have read it too.

Those "immigrant thugs" were a handful to say the least--but like all men before or since, were not without their admirable qualities. (Sort of like our own lovable football thugs!)

I think I can sum this up quickly:

Some folks want to ignore the history they find unpleasant. The fact remains that the L.S.U. Tigers are named for the Louisiana Tigers--and whether the term arose from the Washington Artillery, Wheat's Battalion, every Louisiana soldier in the Army of Norther Virginia, Chennault's Flying Tigers or the like--the namesakes are part of a real history.

Honor them with a statue. Or don't.

The truth cares not a damn for your silly-assed opinions.

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