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Posted on 4/3/26 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by StTiger
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 2:13 pm to
I don't know. If a live action is done right, it will be amazing and Seth MacFarlane and his company has had some very long running shows. I think it has more to do with the production company over the platform

Guarantee Netflix would have already cancelled after the first season. I'm just happy it is not them

And the Ted work is great CGI, probably the best in TV right now

Of course, animation would be easiest for all the action and monsters

As long as they stay true to the characters and cast correctly instead of rewriting history like so many other shows want to do, I'll be glass half full
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 4:44 pm to
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And the Ted work is great CGI, probably the best in TV right now



Problem is the Ted TV series just got canceled after two seasons on Peacock due to the CGI costs, so I'm pretty doubtful they are going to spend more money on DCC, or fund it for a ton of seasons.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 8:48 pm to
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long as they stay true to the characters and cast correctly


They better not frick up Quasar
Posted by StTiger
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:41 pm to
Dnfw list

Carl
Donut (and I would fight for Jeff Hayes to voice Donut)
Quasar
Samantha in any way
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:06 am to
Pony cracks me up, too.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:43 pm to
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Pony cracks me up, too.


Definitely my second favorite side character behind Samantha.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 2:16 pm to
Even if I put aside my thoughts of it being a bad idea to be on a service that no track record of doing any major sci fi and fantasy and just gave the creators the benefit of the doubt, I don't like that it's on Peacock because I feel like you have no built in audience for that compared to other services.

The most popular shows on Peacock are Law and Order SVU and The Burbs. It just feels like it's primed to get cancelled early even if it's good. If you throw some weird sci fi or fantasy on Apple or HBO, the people are going to see it and say "what the hell, I'll give it a try" and Peacock they are just going to go "Gross, I'll pass. Yah! New episode of Chicago Med is out."
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 8:41 am
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:49 am to
Peacock is a mistake, just give us animated on Amazon with the Vox Machina studio.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 7:50 am
Posted by StTiger
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:56 am to
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Peacock is a mistake, just give us animated on Amazon with the Vox Machina studio.


While that would've been easiest and possibly most likely get us the entire series, a live action just seems awesome

I know nothing of tv production or even what is out there

Apparently peacock did a surprisingly good job with Twisted Metal? Didn't watch so I don't know

Chris Yost should be more of a concern if you hated Cowboy Bebop on Netflix, but maybe that was more blame on Netflix than him

That said, again zero knowledge of tv production, would the cgi cost have to be as high as Ted?

You can train a real cat to run around and then (seamlessly?) use CGI in more action scenes and when Donut is talking. Just my thoughts on how they could cut costs there.

Based on Orville, they can do many of the monsters/races as costumes and not CGI

I would look forward most to book 5 which at minimum would be season 4 if they combined book 1-2 in one season, so that is unfortunate as the odds of it lasting that long as a live action are slimmer based on streamers being cancel-happy
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:30 pm to
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You can train a real cat to run around and then (seamlessly?) use CGI in more action scenes and when Donut is talking. Just my thoughts on how they could cut costs there.


Donut isn't the real issue. All the stuff Katia does, Mongo, Big Tina, and I could go on with just the crawlers. Then you get to Emberus and Meatus. It's just going to be incredibly costly to do this series justice.
Posted by StTiger
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:42 pm to
Say what you really want to say

Odette and her humongous... She would break the budget. That is really the issue
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 6:54 pm to
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Apparently peacock did a surprisingly good job with Twisted Metal? Didn't watch so I don't know


Twisted Metal is quite solid, but doesn't have all that much CGI or special effects at all outside of the end of season 2. And they literally had to recast a character for season 2 because they couldn't pay Neve Campbell to come back for season 2.

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That said, again zero knowledge of tv production, would the cgi cost have to be as high as Ted?


The CGI costs for this will be a bazillion times higher than Ted. All of the characters powers and the battles are going to be super expensive to film live action.

And at having a live cat seamlessly replace a CGI Donut. Game of Thrones barely used the Wolves after a couple seasons because they couldn't get them to perform properly, and a cat would be tremendously tougher to use than a dog.

All the good things I've heard about Orville gives me some hope, but animation on Prime given their success with Invincible and The Mighty Nein/Vox Machina would have been the play.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:37 pm to
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All the good things I've heard about Orville gives me some hope


Orville works well because it plays off of Star Trek and people know how to do that well live action TV. Dungeon Crawl Fantasy hasn't really had the best track record even in big budget movies.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 6:56 am to
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All the good things I've heard about Orville gives me some hope,


I really liked the Orville. The CGI doesn't have to be amazing if they can nail the story. If I remember right, the Orville had some pretty sh*tty CGI but it was still good.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 9:08 am to
The list of characters you just can't do with practical effects especially once you get to the open world floors, is immense. Sluggalos, changelings, dromedarians, etc. I don't have faith that peacock can do it justice at all.
Posted by StTiger
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 10:24 am to
Like Loup said, it doesn't all have to be impeccable CGI

Just Donut to be honest, and it's bullshite "you can't train a cat to do what you want" frick, they have entire b tier movies where live animals are the main focus. Even A tier movies like Homeward Bound with 2 dogs and a cat for 95% of the movie. Donut does not have to be 100% cgi, Ted did

Less than perfect effects for sluggalos all the way in book 6 doesn't worry me

What we really need to be worried about is if they are going to tone it down
Seth M definitely wouldn't, but would peacock be bitchy about the some of the stuff?

I'm just going to take a hopeful stance on this. He has done very well with a lot of shows, so no need to write it off already
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 1:50 pm to
It's not just Donut though. Mordecai, Katia, Chris, Florin, Bautista, Ren, etc. will all require tons of CGI even before the Faction Wars and Hunting Grounds. Just on the first floor the llamas, goblins, and fairies not including the bosses like the Hoarder and the Juicer. Hell the Ball of Swine will strain the budget and that's just a borough boss. The point isn't so much the tone which I think you're correct McFarlane will do that justice it's the visuals.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 4:43 pm to
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Like Loup said, it doesn't all have to be impeccable


It needs to be great CGI. i can't think of a show ever that needs better CGI than this. Not only main characters but every battle and boss that they fight is probably going to need CGI. I hate stuff with a bunch of CGI but if this is live action it's going to be crucial.

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ust Donut to be honest, and it's bullshite "you can't train a cat to do what you want" frick, they have entire b tier movies where live animals are the main focus. Even A tier movies like Homeward Bound with 2 dogs and a cat for 95% of the movie. Donut does not have to be 100% cgi, Ted did


Dude, come on. This isn't Homeward Bound where it's dogs running and sitting the whole time. This is a cat that is in actual battles and fights and shooting missiles, wearing clothes, having tattoos and casting spells, etc. It needs to be similar quality to His Dark materials on HBO. Thinking you can use an actual cat is kind of ridiculous.

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I'm just going to take a hopeful stance on this. He has done very well with a lot of shows, so no need to write it off already


I don't think anybody is writing it off. Wishing it was on a station that has a proven track record of similar shows instead of a streamer that most of the shows on there are like Chicago PD.
Posted by StTiger
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 5:19 pm to
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Mordecai, Katia, Chris, Florin, Bautista, Ren,


All of these can be and have been in some similar form, a costume

And only one shows up before book 3
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 4/13/26 at 11:46 am to
Right but like the rest of the post said just the first book has some pretty hefty lifts in regards to the effects. Just the first couple of chapters has the collapse of all Earth structures and Donut's transformation specifically.
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