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re: LSU Set to Hire Orgeron

Posted on 12/31/08 at 9:44 am to
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 9:44 am to
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LSUKAT
Posted by Sidis
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 11:45 am to
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I gotta say I made fun of him as a head coach. I still don't think he is a great coach (but he is adequate), but...
Agreed.
We'll see what happens, BUT am I the only one that's a little disturbed by the $$$ Orgeron is likely to be paid as our asst. head coach/recruiting coord./D-line coach?

- "LSU definitely stepped up to the plate and gave him what he wanted. He's going to be one of the highest paid assistant coaches in the country." - Bobby Hebert LINK

I understand that NCAA football programs bring in $$$, etc. BUT it's still college football, right?:

USAToday Sports (12/5/07)

Note:
- Coach Miles earns b/w $3.2-3.5m/yr (a base of $300K/yr) LINK
- Coach Paterno earns only $500k/yr LINK
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 12:07 pm to
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Coach Paterno earns only $500k/yr
I'm tired of people canonizing JoePa for his "low income". People, please! 500K is NOT what JoePa "makes"!
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The State Employees’ Retirement System released Paterno’s salary Thursday . . . He was paid $490,638 last year, according to the retirement system . . . Paterno said Thursday he makes more money than is reflected in the retirement system’s figures, but didn’t specify how much.
500K is his "salary". Paterno is extremely private about his total compensation as is PSU. Both toss out the "salary" figure as press-bait when they have to. He may not be pulling in >3million, but he's well enough compensated to have donated big money back to the university.
Posted by Sidis
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 12:11 pm to
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He may not be pulling in >3million

Which was my point... we understand JoePa earns $$$.
Posted by DTiger
Brandon, MS
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 12:20 pm to
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The DL coach makes more than the DC?


He is Associate Head Coach as well so that explains the difference
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 12:33 pm to
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Which was my point... we understand JoePa earns $$$.
Your point was comparing Paterno's "salary" with Les Miles' total compensation. You think that PSU's coaching staff is paid a pittance of today's rates, and they stay at PSU simply out of altruism? Really?

Just for clarity, in 2009 would you trade JoePa (even at $500K) vs Miles at his income?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81613 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 12:33 pm to
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BUT am I the only one that's a little disturbed by the $$$ Orgeron is likely to be paid as our asst. head coach/recruiting coord./D-line coach?


why does this disturb you?
Posted by coachpenn
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
81 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 1:03 pm to
With Coach "O", Chavis, and Miles, no reason why LSU would not be in the top 3 in the nation in recruiting every year. Chavis should help bring in top LB talent!

Posted by belowpar
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
1005 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 1:04 pm to
Coach O is not a done deal yet
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 1:13 pm to
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Coach O is not a done deal yet


Not a done deal in the sense that the contract hasn't been signed. But even the most pessimistic Tiger fan knows there's less than a 5% chance that this doesn't get done.
Posted by Sidis
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 1:15 pm to
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why does this disturb you?

Because LSU could use some of this $$$ to improve its academics...
...bring in a better professor, increase a dept.'s budget, etc.
Academically, LSU ranks near the bottom among SEC schools.
This post was edited on 12/31/08 at 1:21 pm
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 1:15 pm to
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Academically, LSU ranks near the bottom among SEC schools


Thank God for Ole Miss and Miss State. Those are the only 2 schools behind LSU in academics.
This post was edited on 12/31/08 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Sidis
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 1:18 pm to
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Your point was comparing Paterno's "salary" with Les Miles' total compensation.

Nope.
I was noting two salaries of interest - LSU's salary and the recently revealed PSU salary.

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You think that PSU's coaching staff is paid a pittance of today's rates, and they stay at PSU simply out of altruism? Really?

NC Tigah - relax.
Nobody thinks that. Really.

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Just for clarity, in 2009 would you trade JoePa (even at $500K) vs Miles at his income?

No (b/c of JoePa's age)
Posted by Sidis
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 1:19 pm to
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Thank God for Ole Miss and Miss State. Those are the only 2 schools behind LSU in academics.

Right...and that's just sad.

[ETA: Rankings]
Latest U.S. News Rankings (SEC):
Vanderbilt (#18)
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Florida (#49)
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Georgia (#58)
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Alabama (#83)
Auburn (#96)
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Tennessee & South Carolina (#108)
Kentucky (#116)
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Arkansas (#125)
LSU (#130)
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Ole Miss & Mississippi State (Tier 3)

or consider:

SAT & ACT (25th/75th Percentile) Scores (Select Southern Div.-IA Schools):

- Rice ('07) --- 1330-1510; 29-34
- Vanderbilt ('07) --- 1300-1480; 29-33

- Tulane ('08) --- 1250-1430; 28-32
- Ga. Tech ('08) --- 1280-1410; 28-32

- Florida ('08) --- 1210-1400; 26-31

- UGA ('08) --- 1150-1310; 25-29

- LSU ('07) --- 1070-1290; 23-28

- UA-T ('07) --- 990-1230; 21-27
This post was edited on 12/31/08 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Sidis
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 1:37 pm to
TD Coaching Changes Board: Bobby Hebert says nothing is decided
We'll see what happens.
This post was edited on 12/31/08 at 2:08 pm
Posted by cggeaxtigers
Southeastern, North America
Member since Jan 2008
3264 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 2:20 pm to
I don't know what that survey data is based on, but there is no way in hell that Alabama is a better school than Auburn.

I'm sure Alabama has some good programs (I believe they have a decent law school) but they aren't even close. Alabama sucks about as bad as LSU. Auburn shows up consistently on the 'best values' in public education, etc. They have outstanding engineering.

On the bright side: LSU is improving! We need to get past Arkansas though. It's embarrassing.
This post was edited on 12/31/08 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Greg
Member since Aug 2005
218 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 2:57 pm to
I agree. Coach O's past should concern everyone. Will he be able to get along with the other coaches? Time will tell.

Controversy has followed him everywhere he has coached and recruited. Isn't USC still under investigation for certain recruiting violations that occurred while he was their offensive line coach?

What about getting rid of the FCA while he was Ole Miss and then there is the restraining order he received while he was at the University of Miami. Does anyone know if these allegations are true or simply just hearsay.
Posted by Sidis
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/31/08 at 2:59 pm to
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I agree. Coach O's past should concern everyone.

We're obviously on the outside looking in, but I agree...buyer beware.
I really do hope it works out - I can't go through another 7-5 season.
Posted by St Nikoli Sabon
Mobile, Al
Member since Nov 2008
169 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 3:37 pm to
Damn...this upsets me.

Great hire.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11946 posts
Posted on 12/31/08 at 5:03 pm to
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Coach O is not a done deal yet


You work around or in media circles, don't you? Consistently a few hours before a story breaks, you come out with the truth. What up?
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