- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Winter Olympics
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Why are people jumping off Herman bandwagon?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:08 pm to Dwayne Johnson
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:08 pm to Dwayne Johnson
quote:
Has anyone watched the games he coached lately????????
To be fair, he did put up 303 total offense against a great SMU defense. Not bad for a guy considered to be a genius on the offensive side of the ball.
Could you imagine if some guy like CEO could get 300 yards of offense against SEC teams or maybe outscore opponents 73-7 in the second half of games he has coached. LSU might be pretty good if that could happen.
2
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:09 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
Tiger Pee
praise the lord you are not in charge of anything at LSU!
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:15 pm to Tiger Ree
People are realizing how hilariously overrated Herman got to be on this board.
They love him being a successful OC under Meyer but are repulsed at the idea of Mullen, who was a better OC under Meyer.
They love him being a successful OC under Meyer but are repulsed at the idea of Mullen, who was a better OC under Meyer.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:17 pm to Fat Bastard
quote:
you really think herman would suck here?
With very limited information to answer this question, right now I would give it an unequivocal YES. He is in his second year and just lost to SMU and Navy. LSU just fired a coach for losing two games to what has turned out to be pretty good teams. SMU is not a pretty good team.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:22 pm to Fat Bastard
quote:
praise the lord you are not in charge of anything at LSU!
Hey, I was giving credit for the 303 total yards of offense against the GREAT SMU defense. I'm impressed, but offense is his specialty so maybe it is to be expected.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:25 pm to Volmanac
quote:
They love him being a successful OC under Meyer
The Herman Homers are giving all the credit of Ohio State's win over Bama to Tom. Not Urban Meyer, not defense, not special teams or anything else for that matter. In their biased eyes Tom Herman beat Alabama. He should have watched the Bama game film before the SMU game.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:34 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
The Herman Homers are giving all the credit of Ohio State's win over Bama to Tom. Not Urban Meyer, not defense, not special teams or anything else for that matter. In their biased eyes Tom Herman beat Alabama
Apparently Saban thought that too when he hired him as a consultant. You don't like the guy because he kisses his players plain and simple. You're an ignorant fool.
Trying to compare O and his LOSING RECORD as HC to any of the top candidates, not just Herman, just shows how truly foolish you are. Why don't you answer the question I've asked you on several other threads. Who is your top 3? We get it you hate herman because you're insecure. So tell us, all mighty homophobe, who should we choose?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:36 pm to dallastiger55
quote:
comes from the Urban coaching tree
Didn't you hear? Urban lost this past weekend. Now he sucks too.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:40 pm to dallastiger55
I was never on the bandwagon. He isn't the right fit for our program.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:41 pm to Tiger Tracker
I dont think anyone wrote him off for losing. The Hermanites are quick to yell "Well i guess all HC canfidates are done because they lost." Being all dramatic.
The point is not the loss. But WHO the loss was against. Teams that Houston shouldve throttled beat them. Especially a 2-4 SMU squad who ran Houston off the field.
SMU raises concerns as its been one of the worst teams in CFB since the Death Penalty . We re not talking a Penn St scenerio or a Hail Mary as time expired. SMU beat them soundly
The point is not the loss. But WHO the loss was against. Teams that Houston shouldve throttled beat them. Especially a 2-4 SMU squad who ran Houston off the field.
SMU raises concerns as its been one of the worst teams in CFB since the Death Penalty . We re not talking a Penn St scenerio or a Hail Mary as time expired. SMU beat them soundly
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:52 pm to dbuchanon
quote:
The point is not the loss. But WHO the loss was against.
Yeah already been discussed too. Let's see Saban lost to UAB and ULM. In fact, Orgeron lost to WYOMING AT HOME WITH AN SEC TEAM. If you can't understand why this loss isn't the end of the world then you're being blind.
I'll be the first to admit it doesn't help his HC stock, but people try to say he's a shitty HC for losing to SMU. That's the dumb part, and most of those same people say Os losses don't matter because they were "a long time ago" and "he has learned from his mistakes". Yet, he has not proved that at all since he left Ole Miss because no one is hiring him as their perm. HC.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:52 pm to Tiger Tracker
quote:
Trying to compare O and his LOSING RECORD as HC to any of the top candidates, not just Herman, just shows how truly foolish you are.
You know other readers on this board and I can so easily see that you just make shite up as you go. I have not compared Ed Orgeron's record to Tom Hermans record as head coaches.
Once again as stated in your "What other schools will interview O?" below and this one, I am comparing both coaches apparent opportunity to become head coach of the LSU football team as presented by this and the Rant message boards.
I believe the fact that Herman could be considered a top candidate for LSU at this time is bullshite. He is a second year head coach with a top 10 team and lost to Navy and SMU.
As stated earlier I'm not on the CEO band wagon but I think it is ridiculous that he has to win out, beat Bama or both to even get a sniff at the job. And here some guy at a program that plays in a little league conference in his second year can lose to SMU and still be considered a favorite for the job.
Hell here is my post from the thread you started:
quote:
I don't hate Herman. I have no feelings towards him what-so-ever. I think him kissing 80 something grown men every Saturday is weird as hell.
But, what I hate is the fact that after falling flat on his face against three un-ranked teams in a row that idiots on this board would still want him to lead the LSU program. Hopefully, the LSU administration is smarter than your average Tiger Dropping's Herman Homer.
As stated earlier I'm not on the CEO band wagon but I think it is ridiculous that he has to win out, beat Bama or both to even get a sniff at the job. And here some guy at a program that plays in "American" conference in his second year can lose to SMU and still be considered a favorite for the job.
I have also stated numerous times that even though the majority on this board would name a coach right now - even though the Herman collapse should suggest otherwise, I am patient and will wait to see how the season plays out before making some stupid comments about who I think should lead the LSU football program in the future.
Basically, for the umpteenth time - I don't have top 3 list of coaching candidates. Haven't even put any thought into it. I do know who I don't want.
That being said I have been impressed by what coach O has been able to accomplish after how shitty the LSU team looked earlier in the season. Three games with three offensive records set and outscoring opponents 73-7 in the second half.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:57 pm to dbuchanon
quote:
The point is not the loss. But WHO the loss was against. Teams that Houston shouldve throttled beat them. Especially a 2-4 SMU squad who ran Houston off the field.
I was trying to make this point yesterday and a Herman Homer was countering with trying to compare Saban's losses in his first year with unranked teams to Herman's two losses in his second year with his top 10 ranked team. Really - Herman should be compared to Saban in their eyes. They are some hardheaded folks.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Wait, Booger said something about Fleck?
idk, i don't think booger decided to just make that up. Somebody told him something.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:01 pm to dallastiger55
My mind hasn't changed. Still have him #1 on my list, FWIW
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:02 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
with his top 10 ranked team
yeah...he had Houston as a top 10 team
Houston
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:04 pm to Tiger Ree
I was just typing the exact same thing. Bama was shite when Saban arrived.
Idc what anyone says. If youre top 12 and you get owned by a 2-4 SMU squad. Thats a tragedy.
But but Saban consulted him.
Yeah because he knew Urban wouldnt give him the keys to his offense.
Ring ring
"Hey Coach Its Nick Sa"
Click
"Coach??? Coach?? Urban?? Hello???
Idc what anyone says. If youre top 12 and you get owned by a 2-4 SMU squad. Thats a tragedy.
But but Saban consulted him.
Yeah because he knew Urban wouldnt give him the keys to his offense.
Ring ring
"Hey Coach Its Nick Sa"
Click
"Coach??? Coach?? Urban?? Hello???
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:09 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
. I have not compared Ed Orgeron's record to Tom Hermans record as head coaches.
Lmao. You can't be serious can you? You emphasize how Herman's losses make him unfit to be HC at LSU, but you only talk about Coach O from a 3 game perspective. So if you're not comparing records how do you come to the conclusion Herman is not the right man for the job? Oh yeah you focus on one or two games he lost and ignore or discredit the rest of his resume because kissing weirds you out. Got it.
Please tell me what i have made up when comparing O to Herman?
quote:
As stated earlier I'm not on the CEO band wagon but I think it is ridiculous that he has to win out, beat Bama or both to even get a sniff at the job. And here some guy at a program that plays in a little league conference in his second year can lose to SMU and still be considered a favorite for the job.
You think it is ridiculous because you don't understand how hiring works i guess. If i have a choice betweeb an established guy, new guy with promise, and a guy who has failed with his only opportunity you're damn right the last guy better do something impressive to get the job.
Also as stated for the MILLIONTH TIME ALL COACHES LOSE TO LESSER TEAMS FROM TIME TO TIME.
I have no issues knocking Herman down a peg for the loss. It definitely isn't meaningless with his short HC record, but you on the other hand have to make it seem like he is unfit to ever coach because of one loss. It's absurd. That's why i am asking who is in your top 3 for the job. I'm hoping you have enough sanity to at least put Jombo, Kelly, Petrino, Fleck, Pederson, etc up there so i can have some faith you're not truly this dumb when evaluating all coaches.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:13 pm to dbuchanon
quote:
Idc what anyone says. If youre top 12 and you get owned by a 2-4 SMU squad. Thats a tragedy.
Of course, but does it make him a terrible HC? If you're answer is yes you are truly short sighted on the matter.
See you can discredit everything positive he has done but emphasize his shortcomings. Meanwhile, i along with others are trying to view his risk to reward ratio. While we factor in the loss, it doesn't define him. You're just anti herman no matter what because you give the man zero credit on any accomplishments but 100% blame on any loss.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:14 pm to dallastiger55
The ppl making the decisions don't base their choice off one game or one season.
If Herman is who Joe wants, than that's who LSU will go after, no matter what his current team does
stop basing what may happen on what fans say. they have zero input on this decision
If Herman is who Joe wants, than that's who LSU will go after, no matter what his current team does
stop basing what may happen on what fans say. they have zero input on this decision
Page 2 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News