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re: Why are people jumping off Herman bandwagon?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:24 pm to Tiger Tracker
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:24 pm to Tiger Tracker
Its not 1 game
They have looked like shite the past 3 games
I like Herman, never said i didnt. But imo he isnt the end all you guys are making him out to be.
Good coach. Yes
Worthy of a call. Yes
If he goes to LSU its over for the SEC. Um no
Imo he goes to the Horns but we ll see. Lots of ties there for him and his OC.
They have looked like shite the past 3 games
I like Herman, never said i didnt. But imo he isnt the end all you guys are making him out to be.
Good coach. Yes
Worthy of a call. Yes
If he goes to LSU its over for the SEC. Um no
Imo he goes to the Horns but we ll see. Lots of ties there for him and his OC.
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:29 pm to Tiger Tracker
I just think its funny to watch some of you on this. Quick to say no for losses of other Coaches but Hermans dont matter
Jimbo? No. He lost to UNC
Petrino? No. Lost to the other Tigers
Kelly? No. Lost to LSU
But when it comes to Herman
He lost to SMU. Its ok. No biggie
Jimbo? No. He lost to UNC
Petrino? No. Lost to the other Tigers
Kelly? No. Lost to LSU
But when it comes to Herman
He lost to SMU. Its ok. No biggie
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:44 pm to dbuchanon
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Jimbo? No. He lost to UNC
Petrino? No. Lost to the other Tigers
Kelly? No. Lost to LSU
But when it comes to Herman
He lost to SMU. Its ok. No biggie
Im still all in for any of these guys even though chip kelly would get me the least excited. It's not Herman or Bust for me at all. I agree with your assessment that it's no guarantee he dominates the SEC or Saban.
I'm just sick of the opposite: Herman lost one game. frick that guy worst HC ever which is what some are implying here.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:50 pm to dbuchanon
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I just think its funny to watch some of you on this. Quick to say no for losses of other Coaches but Hermans dont matter
Jimbo? No. He lost to UNC
Petrino? No. Lost to the other Tigers
Kelly? No. Lost to LSU
But when it comes to Herman
He lost to SMU. Its ok. No biggie
anybody judging a coach off 1 loss is a retard
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:52 pm to Tiger Tracker
quote:over a 3 game stretch against some below average teams he lost 2 games and looked terrible in the game he did win all while ranked in the top 10. And the best excuse anyone on here could come up with was that his players had quit on him - as if that didn't actually make Herman look like a worse head coach.
Herman lost one game
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:56 pm to Sev09
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Didn't you hear? Urban lost this past weekend. Now he sucks too.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:00 pm to Tiger Ree
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Coach O has to win out and/or beat Bama to be considered for the job. This guy coaches in a junior league and got his arse kicked by SMU. Why the double standard in this case?
Herman has never driven a program into the ground and set historically bad records for said program. So there's that.
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:04 pm to drexyl
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over a 3 game stretch against some below average teams he lost 2 games and looked terrible in the game he did win all while ranked in the top 10. And the best excuse anyone on here could come up with was that his players had quit on him - as if that didn't actually make Herman look like a worse head coach.
Hey i get it is concerning for sure, but the part of my sentence you chose to quote was followed by Does that make him a shitty HC overall? I think that's as reactionary as saying hire O because he won 3 games. It's about an overall body of work.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:05 pm to Salmon
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anybody judging a coach off 1 loss is a ranter
FIFY
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:14 pm to Salmon
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he had Houston as a top 10 team
Operative word here is "had". Then his team went up against the great juggernaut teams of Navy, Tulsa and SMU. If they are ranked at all now, it is a travesty to the good teams that are ranked below them.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:17 pm to Tiger Tracker
quote:not necessarily shitty - not necessarily great. he's been a head coach for 1.5 years so he doesn't have some huge body of work to pull from as a HC. He is an unknown to some extent. the terrible 3 game stretch for him is getting costing him for the same reason O's great 3 game stretch is benefiting him. CFB is a what have you done for me lately business and right now O is trending up and Herman is trending down.
Does that make him a shitty HC overall?
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:22 pm to Salmon
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yeah...he had Houston as a top 10 team
Houston
Houston has two College Football Hall of Fame coaches - yeah Houston. Of their 13 head coaches in the programs existence only three have had overall losing records.
Houston was ranked when both Art Briles and Kevin Sumlin were coaches. Both of them coached at Houston within the last 10 years. Andre Ware won a heisman trophy at Houston, yeah Houston. David Klingler and Case Keenum both won the Sammy Baugh award at Houston, yeah Houston. It's not like Houston is SE Louisiana.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:38 pm to drexyl
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CFB is a what have you done for me lately business and right now O is trending up and Herman is trending down.
I get it, but when you hire a HC, a good AD is going to look at their overall body of work. I'm just saying, like you, his stock is down, but he is far from out, in terms of being a good HC.
I agree he is an unkown and it's a risk to reward deal with him. At this point, i still think the reward is greater than the risk, but that could change. At any rate, it's foolish to only consider Herman. There are plenty of other names out there.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:49 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Me: I have not compared Ed Orgeron's record to Tom Hermans record as head coaches.
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You emphasize how Herman's losses make him unfit to be HC at LSU, but you only talk about Coach O from a 3 game perspective.
For someone to say that over the last three games Coach O's team has performed much better that Tom's team is not comparing records and is a no-brainer for non-Herman's to see. It's not like I'm making this shite up. Want me to post a link to team's schedules?
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So if you're not comparing records how do you come to the conclusion Herman is not the right man for the job?
I don't know, maybe because his team was ranked as high as #6 in the nation and lost to SMU while putting up an amazingly impressive 303 yards of total offense. Maybe because he is considered an offensive guru and still only managed 303 total yards against an amazing SMU defense.
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Oh yeah you focus on one or two games he lost and ignore or discredit the rest of his resume because kissing weirds you out. Got it.
You and the kissing crap again??? I can focus on the three game skid he has been on because it is very relevant to the LSU head coaching position. If you look at his big wins you have to wonder if they were really all that impressive. Hell the Oklahoma football team played a basketball game against Texas Tech this weekend.
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Please tell me what i have made up when comparing O to Herman?
I have no clue. When I refer to you making crap up, I am referring to what you are saying I have posted. Which is really stupid because what I have posted is still there. You are trying to bend my statements into ridiculous information that was not posted by me. All anyone has to do is look at my posts where you are trying and failing to tell me what I said. Pretty simple actually.
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You think it is ridiculous because you don't understand how hiring works
Wow, reaching a bit are we?
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If i have a choice betweeb an established guy, new guy with promise, and a guy who has failed with his only opportunity you're damn right the last guy better do something impressive to get the job.
It's not your decision. You would have already hired Tom the kisser and he has not done a damn thing to impress the last month of football.
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Also as stated for the MILLIONTH TIME ALL COACHES LOSE TO LESSER TEAMS FROM TIME TO TIME.
You really are brilliant aren't you? Wow, can I bookmark this for later reference? Amazing !!!
Do all coaches at little league conference schools go on three game skids against teams with much less talent and get hired to lead the LSU program? I'll answer that for you - Nope !!!
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but you on the other hand have to make it seem like he is unfit to ever coach because of one loss.
True - at LSU and if you totally disregard the fact that I have stated it is the body of work over three games. The fact that he is a so-called offensive genius and was only able to muster 303 total yards against SMU - yeah you read it right - 303 total yards against SMU.
One close loss against SMU would be bad enough. SMU kicked Houston's arse, it wasn't close at all. Herm is 2-3 in his last three games against little league teams. You think that merits him becoming the LSU head coach?
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That's why i am asking who is in your top 3 for the job. I'm hoping you have enough sanity to at least put Jombo, Kelly, Petrino, Fleck, Pederson, etc up there so i can have some faith you're not truly this dumb when evaluating all coaches.
Maybe you just don't read my posts. You are becoming a broken record. It wasn't that long ago today that I told you I don't have a top three. The decision is not mine to make so I am not going to waste time on frivolous shite. As previously stated, I know who I don't want to be the head coach of LSU. Herman right now is at the top of the list along with another lousy choice the Ranter's wanted to make in Lame Kiffin.
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Pederson
Who is this guy you speak of? Not surprised that you would want to hire a guy and you don't even know his freaking name. But, what's new.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 2:55 pm to Tiger Tracker
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the loss, it doesn't define him
Isn't it losses at this point?
What besides allowing your team to rape women, cheat in the recruiting game and other illegal activity matters more than a coaches losses? For that matter in most cases even with the list above what matters more than losses to a coaches career. You keep bringing up CEO's losses from 10 years ago like he is some kind of pariah, but Herm can lose two out of three to shitty teams and now losses don't define a coach anymore. Good try guy !!!
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:05 pm to dbuchanon
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I like Herman, never said i didnt. But imo he isnt the end all you guys are making him out to be
That brings up another concern of mine. Can he recruit well enough to maintain a SEC team. He did great last year with someone else's players. Not so good this year. He can't have Ed Oliver's brother on the team and hire his high school coach every year.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:09 pm to dbuchanon
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But when it comes to Herman
He lost to SMU. Its ok. No biggie
Hermanism 101. It's like people on this board have some kind of huge investment in the guy. Is he related to a dozen people here. Does he have multiple agents that post here.
The guy is having a shitty month and doesn't have a large enough resume to overcome it. But, Tiger fans for some reason don't care if loses every remaining game this season, they still want him as the LSU head coach.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:11 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Herman lost one game
frick dude, do you really believe he only lost one game. If so, how about that Houston blowout of Tulsa? That was amazing.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:16 pm to Salmon
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nybody judging a coach off 1 loss is a retard
How about three games in a row? How about when it is a top 10 team playing scrubs? How about when the head coach who just got his arse kicked by SMU has only been a head coach for 1 1/2 years and is coaching the previous coach's players?
When does it become a good time to judge him?
Can the Herman Homers not fricking count. Go to ESPN, hit the "scores" link, the forth or fifth game down is Houston/SMU, click on "Houston" and then click on "schedule". Look for the "L's" and "W's".
I have heard of selective memory but this is becoming absurd.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 3:20 pm to cas4t
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Herman has never driven a program into the ground and set historically bad records for said program. So there's that.
Oh yeah, I forgot that O took over a program that was recently coached by Art Briles and Kevin Sumlin. That they were ranked in the top 10 and then went to shite.
Yep, Ole Miss 10 years ago was perennially one of the top ranked teams in the country. It is pretty bad how far they fell off the national championship winning map while he was there.
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