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Posted on 8/13/11 at 5:42 am to JPLSU1981
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Nonetheless, having not even entered the league yet, I already feel a rivalry with Texas A&M.
+1 They may not be on par with LSU today, but never underestimate the Aggies' ability to put very comptetitive teams on the field year after year. Oh and by the way, they have a huge and very passionate fan base. I say bring 'em on.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 5:53 am to KaiserSoze99
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War Criminal
This man speaks the truth.
Tell me about it...Sherman burned my home town down!
(Atlanta).
Strange thing was when I had moved to Lafayette after being at LSU, a few of the Cajuns were calling me a Yankee with my Georgia plates on my car. I asked them where the hell that they got the idea I was a Yankee and they said anyone north of I-10 was one.
I reminded them of the stuff about Sherman's history at LSU, and that nobody in Lafayette was gonna call me a Yankee.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 5:55 am to AU86
The player probably had it coming! 
Posted on 8/13/11 at 5:58 am to PRK
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Never. Gonna. Happen.
As mentioned, the NC schools are locked in together. Its political.
You mean like some people have been saying those Texas schools are always gonna be locked together?
Posted on 8/13/11 at 6:04 am to xiv
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If the SEC wants to dip its feet into Texas, then they need to f'n take the state over. That basically means UT and A&M
No need for that...Texas would never come anyway because they always have to be the biggest, and would develop a "complex" in the SEC.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 6:06 am to LSUinMA
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I don't understand the Oklahoma talk.
I don't either...they never would do it. Way too many big games for Big Game Bob. Too hard to get to the championship game for them in the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/13/11 at 7:58 am
Posted on 8/13/11 at 6:53 am to TulsaTimeTiger
LINK
Interesting perspective from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
These guys can't see that A&M going to the SEC would be a step up for them, hence this bullshite about "uprooting."
Interesting perspective from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
These guys can't see that A&M going to the SEC would be a step up for them, hence this bullshite about "uprooting."
This post was edited on 8/13/11 at 6:55 am
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:12 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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the SEC for some reason has locked on Florida State as the other team to come into the SEC with TAMU.
Part of it for sure is the lack of willing quality jumpers, but many seem to undervalue FSU as a member. Some are acting like no watches FSU on TV. Yes, we already have a presence in FL, but adding FSU would be like adding a LA or more. This will be particularly valuable to CBS who only broadcasts a game a week for the most part. It will give them more and better games to chose from and a more likely interest in the state of FL of the outcome.
In addition, FL supplies talent to the eastern half of the US. The more we maximize the SEC and minimize the exposure of others, the better. Eastern teams will now be in FL every year. Western teams will have more exposure. This will be particularly important as the SEC grows for LSU. As we expand the more likely we have to do away with the permanent opponent since it will take a long time to rotate thru 6 or seven teams.
In addition to exposure, you also make recruiting more difficult and expensive for the ACC who will still have Miami. That's a lot of SEC territory you have to travel over.
FSU is a good solid choice.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:26 am to timlan2057
I'm confused. I understand that A&M brings a big TV market, TX recruits, and a rabid fan base with them. Not to mention an instant rivalry with LSU. But really guys...they don't bring a good football program. Period.
They were good during the second half of last season and they might be good (not #1) this year with Tannehill as quarterback.
However, I thought the SEC wanted tough teams that are competitive. Many SEC fans diss Mizzou without really understanding that Mizzou is a top Big 12 team. We either win or tie for the Big 12 North title each year. We have a great school tradition. We have an instant rivalry with Arkansas, and a potential rivalry with Tennessee and Kentucky (in basketball at least).
We beat Florida in the 1966 Sugar Bowl. We beat Alabama 35-10 in the 1968 Gator Bowl. We beat Auburn 34-17 in the 1973 Sun Bowl. And the list goes on: LSU in 1978. South Carolina in 1979 and 2005. And, we beat Arkansas 38-7 in the 2008 Cotton Bowl.
We have a couple of losses to SEC teams throughout our bowl history, but it stands that we have a winning record against SEC teams in bowl matchups.
So the question is, why do SEC fans find it intolerable to bring Mizzou into the SEC? We have a winning tradition. We've won over 40 games in the past 4 years.
I'll be the first to say it...Mizzou would love to come to the SEC. It's a better conference and the Big 12 doesn't offer stability. If we receive an offer we'd be crazy not to jump to the SEC. I've never heard anyone in Mizzou Nation diss the SEC. We'd relish an opportunity to compete in that conference.
But, really, don't think that Mizzou would be a bottom feeder. Just look at Mizzou's bowl history. We can beat SEC teams...we've beaten many...and we can beat the best.
They were good during the second half of last season and they might be good (not #1) this year with Tannehill as quarterback.
However, I thought the SEC wanted tough teams that are competitive. Many SEC fans diss Mizzou without really understanding that Mizzou is a top Big 12 team. We either win or tie for the Big 12 North title each year. We have a great school tradition. We have an instant rivalry with Arkansas, and a potential rivalry with Tennessee and Kentucky (in basketball at least).
We beat Florida in the 1966 Sugar Bowl. We beat Alabama 35-10 in the 1968 Gator Bowl. We beat Auburn 34-17 in the 1973 Sun Bowl. And the list goes on: LSU in 1978. South Carolina in 1979 and 2005. And, we beat Arkansas 38-7 in the 2008 Cotton Bowl.
We have a couple of losses to SEC teams throughout our bowl history, but it stands that we have a winning record against SEC teams in bowl matchups.
So the question is, why do SEC fans find it intolerable to bring Mizzou into the SEC? We have a winning tradition. We've won over 40 games in the past 4 years.
I'll be the first to say it...Mizzou would love to come to the SEC. It's a better conference and the Big 12 doesn't offer stability. If we receive an offer we'd be crazy not to jump to the SEC. I've never heard anyone in Mizzou Nation diss the SEC. We'd relish an opportunity to compete in that conference.
But, really, don't think that Mizzou would be a bottom feeder. Just look at Mizzou's bowl history. We can beat SEC teams...we've beaten many...and we can beat the best.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:36 am to mizzoukills
Missouri belonged in the Big 10, not the SEC. The Big Problem was the Big 10 didn't want Missouri.
You folks came out looking like complete idiots when you opened the door sending Nebraska to a better conference.
You folks came out looking like complete idiots when you opened the door sending Nebraska to a better conference.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:42 am to mizzoukills
Mizzou..really?!
I lived in Columbia, MO for about 4 years and had the good fortune to witness Mizzou's rise to the upper echelon of B12-North with talent such as Brad Smith and Chase Daniels. I don't disagree that Mizzou is at times a very good football team. However, the fanbase just doesn't fit within the SEC culture. I've witnessed your game days and tailgating events also known as lets drink beer and play washers. You guys need some remedial tailgating training before entering the waters of the SEC. Another note, your stadium is too small. In the SEC, we close off our endzones and don't sit on the grassy hill like some DivII program.
Now, would I be upset if Mizzou were to join the SEC. Not entirely. I'd be sore at the lost opportunity of adding a better program that fit our culture. I care less about TV markets and expanding our footprint, and care more about getting teams, programs, fans that fit the SEC culture.
I lived in Columbia, MO for about 4 years and had the good fortune to witness Mizzou's rise to the upper echelon of B12-North with talent such as Brad Smith and Chase Daniels. I don't disagree that Mizzou is at times a very good football team. However, the fanbase just doesn't fit within the SEC culture. I've witnessed your game days and tailgating events also known as lets drink beer and play washers. You guys need some remedial tailgating training before entering the waters of the SEC. Another note, your stadium is too small. In the SEC, we close off our endzones and don't sit on the grassy hill like some DivII program.
Now, would I be upset if Mizzou were to join the SEC. Not entirely. I'd be sore at the lost opportunity of adding a better program that fit our culture. I care less about TV markets and expanding our footprint, and care more about getting teams, programs, fans that fit the SEC culture.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:44 am to mizzoukills
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So the question is, why do SEC fans find it intolerable to bring Mizzou into the SEC? We have a winning tradition.
Southerners have an incredible amount of regional pride and that "SE" means alot. While we can go over the history of MO and how it was originally settled by southerners and that it abuts Ark, KT, and TN, you guys, St Louis, KC, just don't feel southern.
It's not really personal, although I'm sure it feels that way. Hell Ark, who is truly southern and has been in the conference for 20 years, is still not completely accepted.
MO would be good for business, but it would take awhile, possibly your lifetime, for it to seem normal.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:45 am to xiv
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What more do you need? Seriously
How about a little more history between the teams? Coach Miles having trouble with Houston Nutt and Bobby Petrino does not a rivalry make. LSU fans simply do not get as excited for Arkansas as they do for Alabama or Florida.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:46 am to timlan2057
Doug Gottlieb posted this about 30 minutes ago. I have no issue with this but I would rather see NC State instead of Clemson.
@GottliebShow High ranking source at Texas A&M confirms, going to SEC.Clemson,FSU,Missouri likely to join.
@GottliebShow High ranking source at Texas A&M confirms, going to SEC.Clemson,FSU,Missouri likely to join.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:47 am to Touchdowns4LSU
I like how you say "you folks" as if Mizzou had anything to do with it. We wanted the offer too. However, I wouldn't necessarily consider the Big 10 any better than the Big 12. As far as sheer strength, most (MOST) current Big 12 teams could beat any Big 10 team on any given day.
Look, Nebraska has a great tradition too. Can't deny that. I'm not surprised with the Big 10's decision to bring them into that conference. Geographically it makes sense.
I wonder why you think Mizzou doesn't make sense for the SEC. Geographically they're no more north than Kentucky and our state borders 3 of your schools' states.
I guess a winning history against the SEC doesn't really matter to you. Take the bottom feeding A&M and continue to believe that bringing A&M into your conference would be like picking up a power team. Whatever brah.
Look, Nebraska has a great tradition too. Can't deny that. I'm not surprised with the Big 10's decision to bring them into that conference. Geographically it makes sense.
I wonder why you think Mizzou doesn't make sense for the SEC. Geographically they're no more north than Kentucky and our state borders 3 of your schools' states.
I guess a winning history against the SEC doesn't really matter to you. Take the bottom feeding A&M and continue to believe that bringing A&M into your conference would be like picking up a power team. Whatever brah.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:50 am to mizzoukills
Mizzou has a pretty decent football program that can be very good at times. By that I mean they would get 8-9 wins a couple seasons out of every ten or so just like Kentucky, State, and Ole Miss do. The star power of recruits that Mizzou gets is about the same as these three schools. Whether being in the SEC would help or hinder that is something we'll never know. Then, there's the cultural issue as someone has already mentioned.
This post was edited on 8/13/11 at 8:53 am
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:57 am to KaiserSoze99
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A&M and LSU have duked it out over recruits and on the field for decades. Both are ag schools. It's a close, cross-boarder fight.
and College Station is a helluva lot closer to Baton Rouge than to Fayetteville
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:59 am to mizzoukills
Plus, if we're talking out "southern history" here, then some people need to refresh a bit on their Missouri history. I mean, that keeps getting brought as if that's a deal breaker, so I think an education is in order sometime soon.
However, could we bring our 71,000 seat stadium up to date and into the future. I believe that's being talked about currently. Won't argue that.
Really...it would take a lifetime to be accepted in the SEC?
Would we be accepted a little faster if we continued our winning streak against SEC teams once we arrived in the SEC? I bet so.
However, could we bring our 71,000 seat stadium up to date and into the future. I believe that's being talked about currently. Won't argue that.
Really...it would take a lifetime to be accepted in the SEC?
Would we be accepted a little faster if we continued our winning streak against SEC teams once we arrived in the SEC? I bet so.
Posted on 8/13/11 at 8:59 am to Cabby
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@GottliebShow High ranking source at Texas A&M confirms, going to SEC.Clemson,FSU,Missouri likely to join.
I really don't want any of those 3 teams. I'd rather have Va Tech.
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