Domain: tiger-web1.srvr.media3.us Why schools' going back to 'normal' won't work for students of color | Political Talk
Started By
Message
locked post

Why schools' going back to 'normal' won't work for students of color

Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:29 am
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
3832 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:29 am


Why schools' going back to 'normal' won't work for students of color

National test results released in September 2022 show unprecedented losses in math and reading scores since the pandemic disrupted schooling for millions of children.


In response, educational leaders and policymakers across the country are eager to reverse these trends and catch these students back up to where they would have been.


Students of color have long needed more from schools than is typically provided.

But this renewed concern seems to overlook a crucial fact: Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, many schools were failing to adequately serve children of color. As a scholar of racial equity in K-12 education, I see an opportunity to go beyond getting students caught up. Rather than focus only on trying to close pandemic-related gaps, schools could seek to more substantially improve the quality of education they offer, particularly for students of color, if they want to achieve equitable and sustainable results.

Studying schools
For more than a decade, I’ve been conducting research on how schools can successfully serve Black and Latino students. Most of this work has focused on New York City, but what I have learned is critical for any school.

In one long-term study of a citywide initiative targeted at improving outcomes for Black and Latino boys, my colleagues and I collected data across more than 100 schools and through interviews with over 500 school leaders, teachers and students.

Based on this work, I’d like to highlight four critical conditions to improve the success and well-being of students of color.

LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
470083 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:31 am to
quote:

educational leaders and policymakers across the country are eager to reverse these trends


Literally impossible.

These people were warned in real time of the potential consequences and ignored them in the face of data that said schools were safer than home.
Posted by NM Tiger 67
Member since Oct 2022
288 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Literally impossible.

These people were warned in real time of the potential consequences and ignored them in the face of data that said schools were safer than home.


And, sorry POCs. POCs were the MOST vocal about NOT opening schools. Here in Bama, when everyone else was open, the majority black areas refused.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:43 am to
It is common now to see 2nd-3rd graders in large parts of this state that cannot read to any degree, and the sample I've seen is a majority POC. Situation is fairly dire with respect to their future prospects and that die has been cast by age 7. I know many people who still don't think this is a dire situation because "kids are flexible, they'll be able to catch up". I don't see how that happens, it strikes me as pure hopium.

Glad the adults were in the room to make such awesome decisions like having these kids "learn" in front of a tablet screen.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 11:46 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
24154 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Why schools' going back to 'normal' won't work for students of color


Because getting a good education and working hard in the classroom is "acting white" to a large swath of the black community.
Posted by NM Tiger 67
Member since Oct 2022
288 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:45 am to
quote:

It is common now to see 2nd-3rd graders in large parts of this state that cannot read to any degree. Situation is fairly dire with respect to their future prospects and that die has been cast by age 7. I know many people who still don't think this is a dire situation because "kids are flexible, they'll be able to catch up". I don't see how that happens.

Glad the adults were in the room to make such awesome decisions like having these kids "learn" in front of a tablet screen.



The most hurt students were the at-risk students. We know from decades of study that this fall back is permanent. This cohort of students will NEVER recover the ground they lost to their peers.

And then, they're gonna cry "systemic racism" when it percolates up the system.

BUT THEY WERE THE frickING SYSTEM!!!
Posted by crap4brain
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
2670 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Students of color have long needed more from schools than is typically provided.


Why are some allowed to consume so much of the resources leaving so little for everybody else.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62051 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, many schools were failing to adequately serve children of color. As a scholar of racial equity in K-12 edu


It’s not schools failing people of color, it’s people of color failing people of color.
Sure there are bad schools, but one of the main factors in a child succeeding in life is having a Father in the home. Because this isn’t happening, kids are left unattended while mom’s work.
Couple this with blacks almost exclusive desire to have their captors ( Democrats) lead them, it’s a recipe for disaster.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 11:49 am
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71570 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:47 am to
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71570 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Because getting a good education and working hard in the classroom is "acting white" to a large swath of the black community.


We have a bingo
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37760 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:48 am to
quote:

As a scholar of racial equity in K-12 educatio


Oh cool another unnecessary pointless job that provides nothing to society but bitching and complaints
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:52 am to
I volunteer weekly in a program called "EVERY1READS".

You are assigned a child for the year and you work with them for an hour to help improve their reading one on one.

It's not a lot of time to make huge strides, but it's honestly some of the only individual time they get with someone in most cases.

My particular little fella is in 3rd grade and still in st to second grade books. Two-syllable words are very trying for him. He tells me that his mom goes to work when he gets home and his brother and sister watch him. No one helps him at all with school work.

I have 2 grown sons that have graduated with degrees. I know that his mother and I being super involved in their schooling - homework, checking grades, etc. made a huge difference reinforcing the classroom. It's what's lacking in many children's lives - black, white, or otherwise.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
39193 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:56 am to
quote:

In one long-term study of a citywide initiative targeted at improving outcomes for Black and Latino boys,



Sexist.






Oh, and racist.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27237 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Students of color have long needed more from schools than is typically provided


Not their parents though, they're doing everything in their power for their children to succeed...
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58646 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:21 pm to
I’m offended that they used “work” and “people of color” in the same sentence
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
19079 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:44 pm to
Thank God for private schools.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

the pandemic disrupted schooling


The pandemic didn't do any of that
Posted by Katdawg87
Member since Oct 2022
135 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:54 pm to
If POC’s don’t start performing at the same level as whites and Asians, nothing will change. And now with affirmative action clearly on the way out (even if it takes a few years), there will only be whites and Asians in ivy leagues.

The average test score for Hispanics and especially blacks is significantly lower than whites and Asians. They’re fricked if they don’t start holding themselves accountable and stop blaming other people.

If you’re in the same school as a white guy and don’t score as high, that’s on YOU.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:55 pm to
My wife taught 3rd grade at a shiatty public school in Alabama. The school is 82% black.

One year, she had 21 students at the beginning of the year, and 21 students at the end of the year. Only about 3 of those were the same students, the transiency is outrageous.

Out of all these kids, only ONE. ONE. Singular. ONE... could read above pre-primer levels.

These kids are screwed. Nobody cares about them except a teacher in many cases. These kids are exposed to illicit behavior from birth and it is normalized. None have a dual-parent house. Many are in fact taking care of younger siblings themselves. Not one parent ever came to a parent teacher meeting. Not one parent ever bought school supplies. Not one parent ever packed a lunch. She caught students...3rd graders...banging in the closet. Discipline is so hard, and many teachers just say frick it throw Spongebob on the the TV and watch the clock.

She followed up on her kids not too long ago, out of curiosity, and several have already died.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80954 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 1:25 pm to

Teacher's unions are the number one enablers of systemic racism.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram