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Jug-lining for catfish on Toledo Bend...
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:08 pm
Getting back into fishing on Toledo Bend. Mostly bream and sacalait, but I would like to set out some jug lines in the hope of catching some nice catfish for courtboullion.
Can anyone offer some T.B. specific advice on hook size, best bait types, where to set up lines (types of locations, depth, etc).
Hoping to fish in the early am, set up lines, then check them in the evening and early the next morning.
TIA !!
Can anyone offer some T.B. specific advice on hook size, best bait types, where to set up lines (types of locations, depth, etc).
Hoping to fish in the early am, set up lines, then check them in the evening and early the next morning.
TIA !!
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:42 am to Tigerinthewoods
If I was in Toledo Bend I would go after flatheads. I would use live perch that I would catch in a perch trap using artificial bait.
Tie them to the stumps and the flathead’s will eat them at night. They cruise around those stumps at night looking for fish.
Have fun.
Tie them to the stumps and the flathead’s will eat them at night. They cruise around those stumps at night looking for fish.
Have fun.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 4:46 am
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:32 am to Tigerinthewoods
If you can find any timber with those black cormorants sitting on the limbs there will be catfish near by.
Blues/Channels Buy or catch some fresh shad (we catch them in a cast next on boat ramps at daylight) and cut them in chunks or chicken breast marinated in cherry kool-aid.
If you want flatheads you need something live, best bait is hand sized bream, you should be able to catch plenty of these around docks/grass lines etc. Of course if you hook a big flathead you may never find the jug.
Blues/Channels Buy or catch some fresh shad (we catch them in a cast next on boat ramps at daylight) and cut them in chunks or chicken breast marinated in cherry kool-aid.
If you want flatheads you need something live, best bait is hand sized bream, you should be able to catch plenty of these around docks/grass lines etc. Of course if you hook a big flathead you may never find the jug.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 8:53 am to Tigerinthewoods
I’ve never put jugs/noodles in Toledo bend but have done plenty in lake Verret.
Probably a bit different as lake Verret is shallow and I usually add weights to mine to keep the fish from going too far with the noodle. I put a 3 ft line out with the bait from one end of the noodle and a 15 ft anchor line off the other end. Normally I deploy mine between 5-7 ft of water.
Fresh cut bait has far and away always been the best bait for me. When they are very active feeding they will eat just about anything. You can use live perch if targeting flatheads.
Hook size is dependent on the size of fish you are after. If you want big fish then use bigger hooks. Small trotline hooks will work if you just want to catch eater size fish in the 1–3 lb size.
Remember state law requires you tag all your drops with name, license number, and phone number. I’ve found the cheapest most effective method is to buy packs of the jumbo zip ties from harbor freight. Use a sharpie to write the required info and zip it down to your float.
Probably a bit different as lake Verret is shallow and I usually add weights to mine to keep the fish from going too far with the noodle. I put a 3 ft line out with the bait from one end of the noodle and a 15 ft anchor line off the other end. Normally I deploy mine between 5-7 ft of water.
Fresh cut bait has far and away always been the best bait for me. When they are very active feeding they will eat just about anything. You can use live perch if targeting flatheads.
Hook size is dependent on the size of fish you are after. If you want big fish then use bigger hooks. Small trotline hooks will work if you just want to catch eater size fish in the 1–3 lb size.
Remember state law requires you tag all your drops with name, license number, and phone number. I’ve found the cheapest most effective method is to buy packs of the jumbo zip ties from harbor freight. Use a sharpie to write the required info and zip it down to your float.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:43 am to Tigerinthewoods
Fairly new reg the LDWF came up with. Check page 13 on the 2024 handbook.
LDWF 2024
YO-YOS, TRIGGER DEVICES, TROTLINES, LIMB LINES, JUG
LINES AND ALL PASSIVE DEVICES CONTAINING A HOOK OR
HOOKS
• All passive hooked gear shall be clearly tagged with the name and
telephone number, and fishing license number of the owner or
user. Information must be attached with a waterproof tag or written directly on the device in indelible ink.
• Each hook shall be rebaited at least once every 24 hours, and all
fish and any other animal caught, entangled, ensnared or
hooked, shall be immediately removed from the device.
• Except for those devices that are attached to a privately owned
pier, boathouse, seawall or dock, gear must be removed from the
waterbody immediately by the owner or user when not in use.
LDWF 2024
YO-YOS, TRIGGER DEVICES, TROTLINES, LIMB LINES, JUG
LINES AND ALL PASSIVE DEVICES CONTAINING A HOOK OR
HOOKS
• All passive hooked gear shall be clearly tagged with the name and
telephone number, and fishing license number of the owner or
user. Information must be attached with a waterproof tag or written directly on the device in indelible ink.
• Each hook shall be rebaited at least once every 24 hours, and all
fish and any other animal caught, entangled, ensnared or
hooked, shall be immediately removed from the device.
• Except for those devices that are attached to a privately owned
pier, boathouse, seawall or dock, gear must be removed from the
waterbody immediately by the owner or user when not in use.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:45 am to Bigfishchoupique
quote:this
If I was in Toledo Bend I would go after flatheads. I would use live perch that I would catch in a perch trap using artificial bait. Tie them to the stumps and the flathead’s will eat them at night. They cruise around those stumps at night looking for fish.
Posted on 7/28/24 at 2:23 pm to choupiquesushi
Thanks for the replies guys! Very helpful info.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 7:11 am to Tigerinthewoods
We set trot lines in October every year for a week. We actually experimented around with a few hooks. The circle set seemed to hold the best but the standard stainless steel hook works well also. We are using relatively big hooks like #9 or #10.
The issues we run into with hooks is getting them hung on logs and trees So we use heavier main line with lighter leader line. All nylon but thicker main and lighter leader line. We have also had better luck in deeper (20') water than shallower water (10').
We spend a lot of our day in a creek catching bream/perch (guessing this is a vernacular difference between Tx and La) on a pole and worms. The bigger the better. Flatheads mouths are insanely huge so the bigger the bait, the less you have to deal with smaller cats. Shad die within 2 min of being on the hook. Perch stay alive longer than shad do and we definitely catch bigger catfish on perch than shad. We caught our biggest flathead last year at 38 lbs. I'll post some pics this afternoon.
The issues we run into with hooks is getting them hung on logs and trees So we use heavier main line with lighter leader line. All nylon but thicker main and lighter leader line. We have also had better luck in deeper (20') water than shallower water (10').
We spend a lot of our day in a creek catching bream/perch (guessing this is a vernacular difference between Tx and La) on a pole and worms. The bigger the better. Flatheads mouths are insanely huge so the bigger the bait, the less you have to deal with smaller cats. Shad die within 2 min of being on the hook. Perch stay alive longer than shad do and we definitely catch bigger catfish on perch than shad. We caught our biggest flathead last year at 38 lbs. I'll post some pics this afternoon.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:05 am to WhiskeyThrottle
OK, so I bought 100 8/0 circle hooks and 100 20" green wire leaders with swivels on one end and swivel snaps on the other (going to let the leaders swivel freely around the drop line.) Got both heavy line and some lighter line. Plenty of one gallon milk jugs and 20 or so pool noodles too. going to use bricks with hole as anchor weights. So I should be good there.
Bought a couple of big perch traps and we'll fish for more if necessary.
As far as depth, if I'm in 12' of water, how deep do I set my hook? If I'm in 20' or more of water, do I set more than one hook? If so, at what depths?
Also, as bait, do hot dogs work well?
Bought a couple of big perch traps and we'll fish for more if necessary.
As far as depth, if I'm in 12' of water, how deep do I set my hook? If I'm in 20' or more of water, do I set more than one hook? If so, at what depths?
Also, as bait, do hot dogs work well?
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 8:35 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:55 am to Tigerinthewoods
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Also, as bait, do hot dogs work well?
If you're looking to catch large catfish, I wouldn't even bother. I've honestly never had much luck with large catfish with anything other than live bait. I think the problem with artificial bait and stuff like hot dogs is that it can all be picked apart by smaller fish (bream, small catfish etc. . . ) and the bait will be gone before the bigger fish get there. Even with shad, smaller fish will eat the shad before the bigger fish get an opportunity. We will bait our line with shad at times, and we'll have to rebait it constantly whereas perch are a tougher fish and smaller fish have a more difficult time getting them off the hook.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:13 pm to Tigerinthewoods
Here was the catch from October 4th 2023.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:29 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Nice!!
Would need to make three big pots of rice for that pig!
Would need to make three big pots of rice for that pig!
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:30 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
I’ve caught a ton of big blue cats (20-50 lbs) on cut bait.
Flat heads are the ones that require live bait.
Flat heads are the ones that require live bait.
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