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Alps ski trip
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:44 pm
Have skied the Rockies a dozen or more times, and last year finally had enough of the prices after spending a shite ton for a family of 4.
Wife and I are entertaining planning a comparable trip to Italy or Switzerland. Anyone done it? Flights are gonna make or break the trip, but if we can do it for comparable money it’s a no brainer to me.
Would love to hear any experiences good or bad
Wife and I are entertaining planning a comparable trip to Italy or Switzerland. Anyone done it? Flights are gonna make or break the trip, but if we can do it for comparable money it’s a no brainer to me.
Would love to hear any experiences good or bad
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Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:26 pm to brightside878
No but don’t discount Norway
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:52 pm to brightside878
There’s a similar thread on South America. I bet I could find flights for damn near the same price to Europe as I can to park city or Jackson hole.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 6:03 am to brightside878
Posted on 7/30/24 at 7:22 am to baldona
That’s the hope. It’s absurd to me the popularity of skiing with a family right now.
We spent just short of $15k on a 5 night (3 skiing day) trip to freaking park city
We spent just short of $15k on a 5 night (3 skiing day) trip to freaking park city
Posted on 7/30/24 at 8:47 am to brightside878
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That’s the hope. It’s absurd to me the popularity of skiing with a family right now.
We spent just short of $15k on a 5 night (3 skiing day) trip to freaking park city
Yeah ridiculous. I'd think you'd want to wait until kids are old enough to ski on their own.
People say skiing in Europe isn't bad, I haven't looked, but that seems surprising to me. I'm not sure why it would be cheaper than USA?
ETA: The problem with skiing in the US is to fly in and stay close. If you live in say Salt Lake and get an Epic pass, skiing is really actually very affordable in my opinion. Skiing with kids also is hard because you really gotta be within walking distance to the lifts until they are teenagers or so.
This post was edited on 7/30/24 at 8:57 am
Posted on 7/30/24 at 9:16 am to baldona
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People say skiing in Europe isn't bad, I haven't looked, but that seems surprising to me. I'm not sure why it would be cheaper than USA?
I don't have any actual knowledge on the subject, but a possible explanation, assuming it's true:
The "young" mountains in the US (Rockies) are primarily in fairly arid areas, and because of that, there just isn't tons of infrastructure servicing the parts that get enough snowfall to justify ski tourism. That's going to cause significant build up in a few areas while other more remote areas are ignored. On the other hand, the young mountains in Europe, the Alps, are in a moisture rich area spanning across five different countries who all want a piece of that sweet, sweet mountain tourism pie. Because of that, I have to think there are significantly more "ski towns" in Europe than there are in the US. And as icing on the cake, major Eurail lines basically circle around the Alps, with regional lines spiking off of it.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 9:25 am to Joshjrn
Flights, lodging, and short term passes/ lift tickets are really what makes it expensive. Nothing is cheap, really.
I was looking at going to Minnesota because I have cheap winter flights and thought I’d do something different, lift tickets are only $80/ day or so.
What intrigues me about Europe would be skiing 2-3 days and then going elsewhere to have a longer trip.
I was looking at going to Minnesota because I have cheap winter flights and thought I’d do something different, lift tickets are only $80/ day or so.
What intrigues me about Europe would be skiing 2-3 days and then going elsewhere to have a longer trip.
Posted on 7/30/24 at 9:46 am to baldona
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I was looking at going to Minnesota because I have cheap winter flights and thought I’d do something different,
MountKato is waiting for you, baw
(All jokes aside, it is nice to be able to drive 30min and get some skiing in, even if it isn’t the Rockies.)
Posted on 7/30/24 at 11:18 am to Joshjrn
quote:I work with alot of Europeans. Several grew up skiing in Europe. They choose the Rockies every single time.
I don't have any actual knowledge on the subject, but a possible explanation, assuming it's true:
The answer is snow/season consistency.
Even in bad years in the US, you pretty much know what you are going to get. You can book your ski trip in August for any time in Jan/Feb/Mar and know that you will have a good trip.
In Europe, the season can be complete shite... or it can be amazing. But you have to wait until January or February to know for sure.
They would rather not take their chances of having it be a bad year.
Now, which is better at its best? Europe. And their mountains are 4-10 times larger than most resorts in the US.
Which is cheaper? Surprisingly, Europe. Because of the competition, the pricing is cheap for lodging, lifts, rentals, and transportation, which easily overcomes the difference in flight prices. Most destinations I've priced in Europe are equal to or cheaper than the major resorts in the US (e.g. Vail, PC, Big Sky, Aspen).
For resorts in Europe, it depends on what you are looking for, but you would have a hard time going wrong with:
Zermatt
Val-D'isere
3 Vallees (Courchevel)
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Chamonix Mont-Blanc
Kitzbuhel
St. Moritz
Posted on 7/30/24 at 11:34 am to Mahootney
Good point, one of my guides this year was from France and he said they get 3-5 major snowfalls a year and very few other snows. So it’s really hit and miss.
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