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Buying land that has a potential meddling neighbor
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:07 am
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:07 am
Buying land that has a potential meddling neighbor. What's your experience how would you handle this person.
To long didn't read wall of text: Anyone here buy a piece of land across the road from a Douch bag? How did you handle it without catching a charge.
We made an offer that has been accepted. Land is perfect, wooded and very little site prep required to build. I can park my truck on the side of the road and hunt it. Deer and Turkey everywhere. This property has city water, limited restrictions for our new home build & minutes from our kids/grandchildren. <-- limited availability. My good friend a builder of 30 years in the area, lives around the corner. A big reason to build here based on his knowledge of the county and places to build (zoning). We live an hour & a half south in Tampa, FL.
Wife & I walked the property twice each time with a visit from the neighbor within moments of our arrival.
First encounter neighbor comes out with a loud pitchy bark "CAN I HELP YOU!" Mind you we're walking down the paved road.
I'm an olive branch type but... so I responded matching his "tone" and said "SURE YOU WANT TO HELP ME." & made a bee line towards him.
He changed his tone and I tried to have a friendly conversation with him, (listening.) He made it very clear that he wants this land but can't afford it. (numerous low offers rejected over the last few years) Mentioned he doesn't want the area to change. He is also using a portion of the property without the current owner's permission. (Out of state owner.)
We visited the property again yesterday evening to discuss tree removal and home site location & dude comes out again. He had all sorts of helpful things we should know about the property and surrounding neighbors. They like to shoot guns, ride 4 wheelers & stuff. I told him no one likes to shoot more than our family and we can't wait to meet them. We politely thwarted everything he had to say.
He is the pious type full blown, has his truck wrapped in "God, Faith, Brotherhood" Seems he practices it sparingly. <-- My opinion, the worst type of person. Ray Charles can see through his B.S.
My wife is concerned thinking he may have a screw loose. I see it as he sees his part of paradise and free land usage coming to an end. <-- yeah this sucks for anyone I get it.
I told my wife he's an ankle biter and could be an asset keeping an eye on the neighborhood/our property. We're moving full steam. Unless y'all shed some sort of light that can persuade me.
On our way home I told my wife I have to speak with him in a matter-of-fact tone. We're going to be neighbors & we're good southern folk. We can be friendly or not it's up to him. I don't see any way around it.
To long didn't read wall of text: Anyone here buy a piece of land across the road from a Douch bag? How did you handle it without catching a charge.
We made an offer that has been accepted. Land is perfect, wooded and very little site prep required to build. I can park my truck on the side of the road and hunt it. Deer and Turkey everywhere. This property has city water, limited restrictions for our new home build & minutes from our kids/grandchildren. <-- limited availability. My good friend a builder of 30 years in the area, lives around the corner. A big reason to build here based on his knowledge of the county and places to build (zoning). We live an hour & a half south in Tampa, FL.
Wife & I walked the property twice each time with a visit from the neighbor within moments of our arrival.
First encounter neighbor comes out with a loud pitchy bark "CAN I HELP YOU!" Mind you we're walking down the paved road.
I'm an olive branch type but... so I responded matching his "tone" and said "SURE YOU WANT TO HELP ME." & made a bee line towards him.
He changed his tone and I tried to have a friendly conversation with him, (listening.) He made it very clear that he wants this land but can't afford it. (numerous low offers rejected over the last few years) Mentioned he doesn't want the area to change. He is also using a portion of the property without the current owner's permission. (Out of state owner.)
We visited the property again yesterday evening to discuss tree removal and home site location & dude comes out again. He had all sorts of helpful things we should know about the property and surrounding neighbors. They like to shoot guns, ride 4 wheelers & stuff. I told him no one likes to shoot more than our family and we can't wait to meet them. We politely thwarted everything he had to say.
He is the pious type full blown, has his truck wrapped in "God, Faith, Brotherhood" Seems he practices it sparingly. <-- My opinion, the worst type of person. Ray Charles can see through his B.S.
My wife is concerned thinking he may have a screw loose. I see it as he sees his part of paradise and free land usage coming to an end. <-- yeah this sucks for anyone I get it.
I told my wife he's an ankle biter and could be an asset keeping an eye on the neighborhood/our property. We're moving full steam. Unless y'all shed some sort of light that can persuade me.
On our way home I told my wife I have to speak with him in a matter-of-fact tone. We're going to be neighbors & we're good southern folk. We can be friendly or not it's up to him. I don't see any way around it.
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:24 am to wrongRob
Sounds like he is going to be an issue. I'd put up some cameras.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:28 am to terriblegreen
quote:My buddy said hopefully he'll be someone you have a beer with but put up cameras LOL. Thanks
Sounds like he is going to be an issue. I'd put up some cameras.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:30 am to wrongRob
I think you've approached it the correct way thus far. I'd be prepared though because he is going to try to continue to treat that land as if it were vacant and use the portions he has been using.
If you're not ok with that then you need to have a plan to handle it.
Personally, I really like not being sued because someone did something on my land
as soon as you close on the land, I would have a chat with him about unwanted use of your property and be prepared to do something about it.
If you're not ok with that then you need to have a plan to handle it.
Personally, I really like not being sued because someone did something on my land
as soon as you close on the land, I would have a chat with him about unwanted use of your property and be prepared to do something about it.This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 8:32 am
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:36 am to wrongRob
We have a fat piece of redneck crap with land next to us, he has a stand on a pipeline about 400 yards from our fence line.
Every time he sees my truck he gets on his 3-wheeler, with no exhaust, and rides up and down the road.
Even at day break some days, he will sacrifice his hunt to ruin mine.
You can hear him coming from 3 miles away on that thing.
Every time he sees my truck he gets on his 3-wheeler, with no exhaust, and rides up and down the road.
Even at day break some days, he will sacrifice his hunt to ruin mine.
You can hear him coming from 3 miles away on that thing.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:39 am to wrongRob
Like others said.
Maybe when you shoot a deer or turkey bring him a roast once in a while to maintain a friendship. Having him as an ally to help watch the place when you are not around is not a bad thing.
Then he is not feeling the burn from loosing the hunting area as bad.
Maybe when you shoot a deer or turkey bring him a roast once in a while to maintain a friendship. Having him as an ally to help watch the place when you are not around is not a bad thing.
Then he is not feeling the burn from loosing the hunting area as bad.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:40 am to wrongRob
The biggest problem you face by far is the land use issue. The rest can be ignored. He'll probably bitch and be a pest for a few years then run out of energy. I've found the best thing you can do with these types is to play into their fantasy. Tell him that a bunch of immigrants made an offer that you had to match to buy the property and tell him to keep a lookout for them trespassing. He'll be your best friend.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:45 am to BoogaBear
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as soon as you close on the land, I would have a chat with him about unwanted use of your property and be prepared to do something about it.
I wouldn't wait till then. I'd tell him as soon as I have decided to purchase the property that his stuff has to be moved no later than the closing date.
That way, he knows you're not playing his game and mean business about having your land cleared of his junk when you take ownership.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:15 am to wrongRob
quote:You'd better nip that in the bud asap. A quick Google search shows Florida has a fairly standard run-of-the-mill adverse possession law.
He is also using a portion of the property without the current owner's permission. (Out of state owner.)
I have a neighbor on a property who is the epitome of "ignorant redneck." He was never officially allowed to use the property, he just did because for years there was no one there to stop him. Basically the same story: wanted the land but couldn't afford it. We put in a 2 mile crusher run gravel road, opened up useless pine cutovers, etc., etc., and he continued to use it like it was his even after being told to GTFO. The final straw was when he took his atv down the crowned up road right after a big rain when it was 2 days away from having gravel put down and rutted the road to hell. You can imagine how stupid a person has to be to do that after they've been told to keep out. That's the kind of people we're talking about here: they have the IQ of a bushmeat eating Haitian - which should be kept in mind when dealing with these type people. They are not very adept at thinking ahead and understanding consequences, keeping control of their emotions, etc. In short, they can be dangerous individuals because of their stupidity.
I reminded him that he'd been told to keep out, and since that didn't work, the sheriff was on the way out. He didn't take the news well, and there were a couple other incidents, including one where it could've gone downhill quickly. After that last incident, not a peep. You've likely got an uphill battle on your hands, but the laws are on your side. Be vigilant and be consistent.
It's always best to have peace with your neighbors, but some people only respond to a show of force. Again, at the end of the day, it's your land and your kingdom, act accordingly.
If it's not already done, I'd immediately get my boundary surveyed. Have them set the corners and mark/blaze the boundaries that bound his property and anywhere else he has immediate access to with purple paint according to Florida laws, and follow Florida no trespassing signage to the letter of the law. This is very important if the law is involved later on. After that, put in a simple woodsroad that follows the boundary. This is invaluable for many reasons, not the least of which is to be able to monitor your perimeter. You can easily tell if atvs have entered from his property. With the particular property mentioned above, after putting in the boundary road, I found 8 different spots where they had cut a trail to enter my property via foot and atv, and I was able to block them without any fuss: he drives up his woodsroad, sees the trees are down, joy ride is over.
After you secure your perimeter, if it looks like he's going to be a mouthbreather, put up cameras, put up signs that say you have cameras, and monitor them. Nip it in the bud before the problem grows; make it known there will be no half-measures, and the good old days are over, effective immediately.
Also don't forget if they're shooting in your direction purposefully and zinging bullets across your land, that's a form of trespassing at best, and illegal in many other respects too. Again, take no mercy and be consistent if he's an a-hole neighbor. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and it sounds like this property is perfect for you and your family. Don't let some room temp IQ redneck take the opportunity from you.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:25 am to wrongRob
quote:
Anyone here buy a piece of land across the road from a Douch bag?
I had some property where the arse hat next to me thought he owned all the deer. He was constantly calling green jeans to report bullshite stuff like my feeder being to close to the fence line. He played loud music when he knew I was hunting etc. He put up a camera facing my property on the fence line(I put up a sign right in front of his camera saying "frick OFF". He lived on his property and mine was recreational. I ended up selling it last year.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:43 am to wrongRob
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My buddy said hopefully he'll be someone you have a beer with but put up cameras LOL. Thanks
Minus the cameras this is how my neighbor and I turned out. (although different being I'm in a subdivision
) Up to and during purchase of my house the neighbor came off as the typical "king of the subdivision/get off my lawn" type guy. During that time I stood my ground and thought if i have enough i would just build a privacy fence and give him a
. Fast forward to now, we are great friends and help each other. Looking back, I bought in a very small elderly subdivision where these people have been there all of their lives and were use to things. Me coming in as a younger guy was a change and I could see how this would cause my neighbor to act the way he did in the beginning until he got to know me. I say that to say, you're handling the situation correctly. Stand your ground but don't be an a$$ unless required. Having a good/decent relationship with a neighbor is nice especially as a large property owner. This guy may be like my neighbor whose maybe been there awhile, hasn't experienced change, and once he gets to somewhat know you he may be a good neighbor to have on your side. Or who knows, he may be being a PITA to push you away from buying so he has free land to use.
Certainly though, if you purchase, it needs to be made clear he's not to go onto the property anymore. Just simply tell him its a liability issue.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:13 am to BoogaBear
quote:
I think you've approached it the correct way thus far. I'd be prepared though because he is going to try to continue to treat that land as if it were vacant and use the portions he has been using.
If you're not ok with that then you need to have a plan to handle it.
Personally, I really like not being sued because someone did something on my land as soon as you close on the land, I would have a chat with him about unwanted use of your property and be prepared to do something about it.
I appreciate it as this is what I plan to do. Being prepared to something about it is what I'm afraid of with me being stupid and all. I got a lot to loose but this dude at this moment needs a solid bitch slap.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:15 am to The Torch
quote:Man I hate it for you.
The Torch
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:19 am to wrongRob
quote:
so I responded matching his "tone" and said "SURE YOU WANT TO HELP ME." & made a bee line towards him.
I hope you’re as tough as you think you are
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:23 am to Sparty3131
quote:
Like others said.
Maybe when you shoot a deer or turkey bring him a roast once in a while to maintain a friendship. Having him as an ally to help watch the place when you are not around is not a bad thing.
Then he is not feeling the burn from loosing the hunting area as bad.
This is what I'm hoping for. I get along with anyone willing to get along with me. I hope he gets over it sooner than later.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:24 am to Jack Daniel
Agreed. Why potentially escalate the situation? People are fricking crazy these days. Buy it and put up no trespassing signs. He continues to violate the boundary get the proper authorities involved.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:26 am to Tangineck
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The biggest problem you face by far is the land use issue. The rest can be ignored. He'll probably bitch and be a pest for a few years then run out of energy. I've found the best thing you can do with these types is to play into their fantasy. Tell him that a bunch of immigrants made an offer that you had to match to buy the property and tell him to keep a lookout for them trespassing. He'll be your best friend.
Tangineck you're a damn genius do not think I won't implement this if I need to. Thanks for the Ace I'll have it right here under my sleeve.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:31 am to gumbo2176
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I wouldn't wait till then. I'd tell him as soon as I have decided to purchase the property that his stuff has to be moved no later than the closing date.
That way, he knows you're not playing his game and mean business about having your land cleared of his junk when you take ownership.
Also solid advise I did not tell him we were purchasing the land. When I go back out to have the we're going to be neighbors conversation in the coming days I will be sure to bring this up verbatim.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:49 am to wrongRob
A few years ago we had similar issues when we decided to build on our land. My wife sent certified letters to the people that were hunting on it . She gave them until a certain date to remove their items before the land clearing started . We didn’t get a response but the items were moved and no issues after that.
Also, I’d make sure boundaries are clearly marked . I have a neighbor now that can’t help but always store his stuff over the property lines . Then he asked me why I built fences lol.
Also, I’d make sure boundaries are clearly marked . I have a neighbor now that can’t help but always store his stuff over the property lines . Then he asked me why I built fences lol.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 10:51 am
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:53 am to wrongRob
Get to know the guy, he may be able to keep an eye on shite when you’re not there and be a help to you.
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