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Pulpwood Mill in CenLa
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:53 pm
We have quite a few undesirables in our forest (hackberry and gum) that I would like to thin out and keep the cypress and oaks. The goal is to get some more sunlight to ground to grow more cover and browse. That should also release the oaks to get more acorns and larger trees for an eventual clearcut.
Are there any loggers that will do a selective job like that for pulpwood? We are near alec
Are there any loggers that will do a selective job like that for pulpwood? We are near alec
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 4:55 pm
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:59 pm to PetroAg
https://www.lsuagcenter.com/topics/environment/forestry/forest-industry/mill-locations
Click on the dots for the address.
Click on the dots for the address.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 5:11 pm to Ron Cheramie
About 500 acres. Trees are mainly 8-12” dbh
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 10/3/24 at 6:58 pm to PetroAg
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About 500 acres. Trees are mainly 8-12” dbh
500 acres is a good tract in the forestry world. It will definitely get some interest.
Is it upland or lowland? How wet it is will determine a lot.
8-12" dbh is right on the bubble of being worth Next To Nothing ....
Or Pretty Decent Money.
To make a "Tie Log" .... a log that will produce two RR ties.... it needs to be 12" at 18 feet. Then it's worth roughly $30 a ton.
If it's only 11" at 18 feet, then it won't make a tie log and it might be worth only $5 a ton.
That's a huge jump over a very short span. But that's the reality of the situation.
I'm not sure if your market is the same as ours. But what we do in that situation is that we tell the logger to go in and take out every tie log that he can find. And as he's doing that he's cutting lanes to get his equipment through there. So he's thinning the pulpwood as he goes.
But then in 5 years those logs along his access lanes (think of a fish skeleton) get some sunlight. So they jump into that magical 12" size and become valuable. So every 5-8 years you can go back through there and get a new slug of the decent value tie logs.
It's a grind. But the RR tie market is about the only thing driving the low grade hardwood deal right now.
Posted on 10/3/24 at 7:47 pm to No Colors
Thanks for the notes. Our trees are definitely not 12” at 18’ except a few. We are in a lowland with periodic flooding.
This would be mainly a deer habitat improvement project. I’m not too worried about bringing in a huge payday for the softwood. The hardwoods are the main crop that will bring in money in the coming years, and thinning should speed up the process
This would be mainly a deer habitat improvement project. I’m not too worried about bringing in a huge payday for the softwood. The hardwoods are the main crop that will bring in money in the coming years, and thinning should speed up the process
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:17 pm to PetroAg
prolly not unless you have plenty of acres to cut....
Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:57 pm to PetroAg
Hardwood pulpwood is not worth anything, baw.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 7:51 am to PetroAg
quote:that is the traditional school of thought however it may very well be the opposite of reality. Research by mycologists I believe in the coming decades will determine that actually thinning does more harm than good over the long term…soil ecology is as undiscovered as are the deepest ocean trenches, and there is plenty of growing evidence that taking large trees actively reduces the chances that the smaller trees connected to them will thrive
The hardwoods are the main crop that will bring in money in the coming years, and thinning should speed up the process
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:38 am to cgrand
Got any literature links to share about this?
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:41 am to cgrand
quote:I don’t think so, Tim. Timber harvest/thinning simply mimics natural disaster, baw.
that is the traditional school of thought however it may very well be the opposite of reality.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:01 am to turkish
quote:if you are interested in the overall role soil fungi play in forest health, and in life writ large, i highly recommend this book
Got any literature links to share about this?
ENTANGLED LIFE
there is not a single page that wont show you something new, or ask you to consider long held beliefs and practices in an entirely different way. additionally, here is a selection of published papers many of which address forests and forestry practices
LINK
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:04 am to White Bear
quote:no it doesnt. timber harvesting (typically) removes the healthiest members of the forest community. natural disasters (and typical predator/prey interactions in the animal world) do the opposite...they remove the weakest
Timber harvest/thinning simply mimics natural disaster, baw.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 11:22 pm to PetroAg
Cut it if it will improve the wildlife mgt value of the land, and you want some beer money. HW pulp may be worth $1-3/ton. So a truckload per acre or so, at around <$100 per load.
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