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RENTING =/= THROWING MONEY AWAY!

Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:21 pm
Can this get a sticky?? Please!

I'm a novice on this board, but even myself can grasp this.

Way too many threads about this in the past few weeks. I'm guesing the influx of cheap(er) housing and lower rates has got people itching...

Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:31 pm to
The people who have the renting=throwing money away engrained in their heads are just arrogant. We should just let them live in their little world of "hoping" the economy will "change."
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41893 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:33 pm to
i'm starting to come over to this side of the line. i have always thought that if i am paying $1100 a month rent, then I might as well pay $1600 a month and build up equity and then i'd get my money back when I sell. now I am thinking that with a downpayment, insurance costs, mortgage that what i would pay renting for a few years wouldn't equal to the interest i'd be paying on the mortgage plus all additional costs to own.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26725 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:36 pm to
Not to mention, the percentage of principal you will be getting back when you sell is not going to be a pretty number.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
Mostly Harmless
Member since Nov 2003
28791 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:38 pm to
also, everyone always forgets about the dirty little maintenance cost to owning a house. If your A/C goes out, you get to fix it. If you have a roof leak that destroys a wall, you get to fix it. If a pipe bursts, you get to fix it. If you get termites, you get to fix it. The list goes on, and most of that shite is not covered by insurance.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15345 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:39 pm to
Right. People don't seem to understand that paying mortgage interest is just as much "throwing money away" as renting.

I blame the fricking Tax Code. If I were benevolent dictator for a day one of the first things I'd do (after passing the No Fat Chicks Act of 2009) would be to scrap the mortgage interest deduction.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23171 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

after passing the No Fat Chicks Act of 2009


Mr. President, I would like to co-sponsor then add in a couple of amendments related to less pigs/pork.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:43 pm to
Several of the tax prof blogs I read have been advocating that recently. Some take a little further, and talk about killing depreciation deductions for all RE.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14587 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:47 pm to
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Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15345 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Several of the tax prof blogs
Several? Damn, brah, how many blogs do you read in a day? It has to be 50+.

I will say that tax prof blog is good and I read it about once a week.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46162 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:49 pm to
I'm of the mind that renting does = throwing money away... except for some cases.

If you know you are going to be in the same area long term, buy a house and pay it off.

No payment for monthly living = SECURITY. Way more security than renting.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15345 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Several of the tax prof blogs I read have been advocating that recently. Some take a little further, and talk about killing depreciation deductions for all RE.

Plus, it's fool's gold. In a lot of cases the itemized deductions are just a little higher than the standard deduction. But people seem to think that it's on top of the standardized deduction, or something like that. While in reality the first $10K or whatever in interest gives you no tax benefit at all.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 2:59 pm to
Yeah I read a ton, no lie. I usually let the tax ones build up a little in my reader because they're usually not quite as time sensitive.

I've got my greader broken into categories: new (like a suspense acct), Accounting, Finance, Economics, News, NOLa, Tax, Sports, Tech, Google (which I should really move to tech), Food, and Misc. Right now all of those total up to 144 subscriptions. There's a decently steady increase of about 5 new ones a month I'd say. I just stumbled over a ton of econ/fin stuff purely focused on EU countries and emerging markets a few weeks ago.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 3:01 pm to
LINK

new blog post
Posted by Martavius
Member since Nov 2005
16019 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

new blog post

Yeah but that's about Seattle. No one lives there.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

If you know you are going to be in the same area long term, buy a house and pay it off.


I would submit that it is fundamentally impossible to know such a thing.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15345 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 3:13 pm to
I would submit that you, personally, are about 50x more mobile than the average denizen of South LA.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

50x more mobile than the average denizen of South LA.


Agreed. The fiancee will not live anywhere outside of about a 7 parish area...
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

I would submit that you



My BLAW teacher uses this phrase incessantly, and it drives me crazy. JUST SAY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, frick.


(not directed at either of you, just to be clear.)
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15345 posts
Posted on 2/2/09 at 3:21 pm to
I would submit that you are overreacting a bit.
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