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Has politics always been this toxic?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:52 am
Question for the older crowd
Seems like there isn't much middle ground in U.S. Political banter these days
Seems like there isn't much middle ground in U.S. Political banter these days
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:52 am to Rankest
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:53 am to Rankest
It has always been toxic. The internet and the push for "every voice to be heard" has turned politics stupid to an unprecedented level, though.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:53 am to GRTiger
It's been toxic since the 1770s when we had patriots and loyalists going at it.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:54 am to Rankest
1859? McCarthy era? Andrew Jackson had to be stopped from killing a reporter who wrote a story about his wife.
So Maybe but It has been bad before.
So Maybe but It has been bad before.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 11:53 am
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:54 am to Rankest
No. I tell my kids all the time about how great life was when I was a kid....
Solid example, the 1984 election. If you would have told me that year that 40 years later there would be a group of Americans that would encourage and celebrate having their own countrymen killed over political differences, no one would have believed it...
But here we are...
And shamefully, I have to admit I helped vote for people (Democrats) that led to this.
Solid example, the 1984 election. If you would have told me that year that 40 years later there would be a group of Americans that would encourage and celebrate having their own countrymen killed over political differences, no one would have believed it...
But here we are...
And shamefully, I have to admit I helped vote for people (Democrats) that led to this.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:55 am to Rankest
Before social media, young kids and adolescents were pretty much clueless about what was going on. Now you’ve got 15 and 16 year old political activists who are dedicated to whatever their cause is.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 10:59 am
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:55 am to GRTiger
The thing that makes politics so unbearable these days is that everybody expects things to happen in an hour or it's considered a failure
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:56 am to Rankest
What middle ground exists with socialists that hate this country?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:56 am to Rankest
Probably.
It’s just accessible now and you can’t lie as much. Harder by the day actually.
It’s just accessible now and you can’t lie as much. Harder by the day actually.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:56 am to Rankest
SFP will chime in here to tell you that this is actually the most peaceful and ideologically harmonious political era in our nation's history.
but the answer is no. it has not always been this toxic.
but the answer is no. it has not always been this toxic.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:57 am to roadGator
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What middle ground exists with socialists that hate this country?
We can’t agree on dicks and vaginas.
None lol
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:57 am to Rankest
I think a lot of things in the past are romanticized, and you can probably find a lot of arguments as to why the more peaceable political/social eras of the past weren't as good as advertised.
But no, I don't think they're as toxic.
1. There was vitriol in prior eras, on both sides, but I don't think the splits were as even.
2. Social media and modernity generally has encouraged - sometimes demanded - everyone to take an entrenched side. I definitely believe in prior eras it was more common for someone to not concern themselves with these things. "I'm a farmer, I care about my family and farming, I don't care what they're doing in Washington and Berkley, it's not my business" - along those lines.
3. Institutions fanning flames. Bias in media, colleges, etc. isn't new. But I certainly don't think you had incendiary rhetoric about how not using pronouns is akin to genocide coming from Columbia or NBC in the 60s.
But no, I don't think they're as toxic.
1. There was vitriol in prior eras, on both sides, but I don't think the splits were as even.
2. Social media and modernity generally has encouraged - sometimes demanded - everyone to take an entrenched side. I definitely believe in prior eras it was more common for someone to not concern themselves with these things. "I'm a farmer, I care about my family and farming, I don't care what they're doing in Washington and Berkley, it's not my business" - along those lines.
3. Institutions fanning flames. Bias in media, colleges, etc. isn't new. But I certainly don't think you had incendiary rhetoric about how not using pronouns is akin to genocide coming from Columbia or NBC in the 60s.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:57 am to Rankest
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Question for the older crowd
Well since my days in the Roman senate, I can absolutely attest to the fact that it was very toxic then.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:58 am to GRTiger
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The internet and the push for "every voice to be heard" has turned politics stupid to an unprecedented level, though.
This. Just another example of social media being a scourge on society.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:59 am to Sam Quint
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SFP will chime in here to tell you that this is actually the most peaceful and ideologically harmonious political era in our nation's history. but the answer is no. it has not always been this toxic.
There is something to that though right?
The unrest in the 60s seemed much more explosive in terms of groups presenting as militia types and actually carrying firearms while wearing fatigues etc.
We also actually had a president assassinated and multiple other politicians were shot.
Not white knighting just trying to think through the toxicity now versus then.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 11:00 am
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:59 am to Rankest
Yes
There's always been good and evil and the left has aways been evil.
There's always been good and evil and the left has aways been evil.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 10:59 am to Rankest
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:00 am to Rankest
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Has politics always been this toxic?
First, stop pretending its politics. It is the left. The left is toxic. The left is violent. The left is hyperbolic.
It is the left and only the left, that is going to these extremes. Stop pretending it's "both sides". It's not.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:00 am to Rankest
Changed with Obama.
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