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What to do with Poole...
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:37 pm
I hate when I'm right about this stupid team - back in July, I said
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:54 pm to New City Champ
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They actually both said much the same thing--they like a lot of the players on the team but don't think they "fit together."
I would love to hear the counter to this.
They DON'T fit together.
There's almost no shooting outside Trey and Poole.
No big who can shoot at PF or C. No PG who can consistently shoot. Jose is our best 3 point shooting PG.
We have some world class doofuses in Poole and Zion.
It's a very weird roster. The trade for Poole makes no sense imo.
Yes, he was better last year. Didn't make a damn bit of difference on the Wizards. I think he's best cast as he was in GS. A scorer on a veteran team.
With this cast of clowns, he will be wild.
I don't dislike all the players. I like Queen, Fears, Trey, Herb, Jose in a vaccum but they are bad fits."
Nailed it and now we took a dude with low value and turned him into NO value.
It's like the opposite of the OKC model. Take on a distressed asset and rehab him and get more than you paid.
We took a known clown and exposed him even more and now we're stuck with him next season too.
Dumars and Nico need a deathmatch for worst GM ever.
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:54 pm to New City Champ
quote:
They actually both said much the same thing--they like a lot of the players on the team but don't think they "fit together."
I would love to hear the counter to this.
They DON'T fit together.
There's almost no shooting outside Trey and Poole.
No big who can shoot at PF or C. No PG who can consistently shoot. Jose is our best 3 point shooting PG.
We have some world class doofuses in Poole and Zion.
It's a very weird roster. The trade for Poole makes no sense imo.
Yes, he was better last year. Didn't make a damn bit of difference on the Wizards. I think he's best cast as he was in GS. A scorer on a veteran team.
With this cast of clowns, he will be wild.
I don't dislike all the players. I like Queen, Fears, Trey, Herb, Jose in a vaccum but they are bad fits."
Nailed it and now we took a dude with low value and turned him into NO value.
It's like the opposite of the OKC model. Take on a distressed asset and rehab him and get more than you paid.
We took a known clown and exposed him even more and now we're stuck with him next season too.
Dumars and Nico need a deathmatch for worst GM ever.
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Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:42 pm to ghost2most
I think when DM comes back, Poole becomes a puddle.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:59 pm to FMtTXtiger
tell Draymond that he called him a baby back bitch and step away
Posted on 1/15/26 at 2:45 pm to ghost2most
Have him look at the flowers.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 10:11 am to StrongOffer
He needs to be traded this offseason, for anything. And i'm not giving up assets to trade him no matter what. I'd rather just cut him for the final year and eat that salary for nothing than give up any type of asset to dump him.
I would think we could take in a bad contract and get some assets.
The Nets and Jazz both have cap space right now.
I think the Cavs would love to dump some salary to either of them and lessen their gigantic tax bill they will have to pay. As it stands right now they have a $163M tax bill, on top of their $229M salaries.
If they simply dump $10M Lonzo Ball to the Jazz or Nets, that saves them $60M on their tax bill.
This trade right here saves them $90M on their tax bill.
Cavs get Ives Missi
Nets get Poole
Pels get Jarrett Allen (3/$90M left after this year) and Terance Mann (2/$31M left after this year).
Allen is becoming less and less important to the Cavs, and Mann after signing a nice 3 year contract has been disappointing in Brooklyn.
Despite the Cavs sending out $20M and getting back $3M, they are still a 2nd apron team, but this drastically reduces the tax bill. Allen goes from $20M to $30M next year. This gives them a way to reduce their tax bill but the drop off in play probably isn't that big of a deal to them with Missi.
The Nets would likely want a first round pick though, and i'm not sure who's sending it. Yeah the Cavs are trading Allen for Missi and should be compensated for that, but the Cavs are saving $100M by doing this, and that's a pretty big arse cost.
We could also change it up and send Zion to the nets instead of Poole, and then we'd need to take back some worthless salary from the Nets, but that would get us some assets I would think.
I like the idea of DQ playing with another big who can protect the rim and rim run on offense. DQ and Missi have only played 62 minutes together this year, and granted it hasn't been good at all, it's by far the lowest minutes played of any player on the team by a wide margin. The next closest is Karlo, and they've played 131 minutes together, more than twice as much.
I would think we could take in a bad contract and get some assets.
The Nets and Jazz both have cap space right now.
I think the Cavs would love to dump some salary to either of them and lessen their gigantic tax bill they will have to pay. As it stands right now they have a $163M tax bill, on top of their $229M salaries.
If they simply dump $10M Lonzo Ball to the Jazz or Nets, that saves them $60M on their tax bill.
This trade right here saves them $90M on their tax bill.
Cavs get Ives Missi
Nets get Poole
Pels get Jarrett Allen (3/$90M left after this year) and Terance Mann (2/$31M left after this year).
Allen is becoming less and less important to the Cavs, and Mann after signing a nice 3 year contract has been disappointing in Brooklyn.
Despite the Cavs sending out $20M and getting back $3M, they are still a 2nd apron team, but this drastically reduces the tax bill. Allen goes from $20M to $30M next year. This gives them a way to reduce their tax bill but the drop off in play probably isn't that big of a deal to them with Missi.
The Nets would likely want a first round pick though, and i'm not sure who's sending it. Yeah the Cavs are trading Allen for Missi and should be compensated for that, but the Cavs are saving $100M by doing this, and that's a pretty big arse cost.
We could also change it up and send Zion to the nets instead of Poole, and then we'd need to take back some worthless salary from the Nets, but that would get us some assets I would think.
I like the idea of DQ playing with another big who can protect the rim and rim run on offense. DQ and Missi have only played 62 minutes together this year, and granted it hasn't been good at all, it's by far the lowest minutes played of any player on the team by a wide margin. The next closest is Karlo, and they've played 131 minutes together, more than twice as much.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:07 am to ghost2most
Congrats man!! Do you want a cookie or something?
There were like two people on the entire board that were excited about the Jordan Poole trade. This board has just been a constant string of "Oooo look what I was right about" lately.
There were like two people on the entire board that were excited about the Jordan Poole trade. This board has just been a constant string of "Oooo look what I was right about" lately.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:39 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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This board has just been a constant string of "Oooo look what I was right about" lately.
So a bunch of idiot message board warriors can properly identify players and fit on this team, but our GM can't. Got it.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:53 pm to TeddyPadillac
There were a lot of people who thought Poole was good, including those Pels podcasters. Whif.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:18 pm to ghost2most
well to be fair, he did have a really good season last year on a bad team. He was one of the best 3 point shooters off the dribble in the league last year.
He was 39% on pullups/off the dribble 3's last year, taking 5 a game. That is an incredible average. He was 30% on those the previous 2 years.
This year he's back to 30%.
He's always been decent on catch and shoot, over 36% every year since his rookie year.
He was 39% on pullups/off the dribble 3's last year, taking 5 a game. That is an incredible average. He was 30% on those the previous 2 years.
This year he's back to 30%.
He's always been decent on catch and shoot, over 36% every year since his rookie year.
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