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Israel's war

Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:31 am
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:31 am
For all the people that hate Israel that keep screaming that this is Israel's war. The democrats created this entire mess. Obama entered into a stupid nuclear deal and turned a blind eye to Iran. Obama gave them billions in cash. Biden lifted sanctions on them, re entered that dumbass deal and gave them 150 billion. Since 2021 Iran has attacked US soldiers 350 times. They committed Oct 7th and the democrats and that bitch boy Thomas Massie funded every second of it. So no, this is not Israel's war. This is a mess that democrats created.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:47 am to
You must be young. This is Jimmy Carter's mess and for 47 plus years this Imperialist regime has had but two objectives - annihilation of Israel and the humbling of America.

This is NOT a government which employs terrorism but rather terrorism as a means of governance.

They have added no/zero value to the world community, use civilians and its religion as shields for its bloodlust.

It has been enabled and emboldened by the likes of BHO and JEB.

DJT is ending a war they began 47 years ago. Peace is impossible when one's adversary has no desire for another to exist.

It is time for this regime of terror to go the way of Edom - forgotten in the annals of history less its dishonorable position -- its enduring legacy
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 3:49 am
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10728 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:54 am to
Iran wasn't threatening us. They're threatening Israel.

Our government is Israel's bitch, so when Israel said it's go time, our government obediently obliged.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67242 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:59 am to
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Iran wasn't threatening us.


the fact we have so many stupid people like you in this country is why my X timeline is flooded with similar garbage. Hint, if the Democrat politicians are saying it, the opposite is true.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15127 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:59 am to
Would love to see you float that message - face to face - to the loved ones of the 200 plus Marines they killed in Lebanon - unprovoked by every measure
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6272 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:01 am to
It’s actually Eisenhower in 1953 had the democratically elected PM replaced with the shah. The Shah was a dictator and was over thrown. Maybe America should rethink its 70yr history and policy concerning the Middle East because it’s been a complete disaster.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10728 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:04 am to
"In Lebanon". In 1983. Yes, and it was horrible. I'm talking about the homeland. I'm talking about the threats now.

Look, I wish the worst for those "leaders" in Iran and hope that the Iranian people come out of this much, much better off, as do the Israelis, but this shite isn't America first. This is a war on Israel's behalf.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5503 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:06 am to
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You must be young. This is Jimmy Carter's mess and for 47 plus years this Imperialist regime has had but two objectives - annihilation of Israel and the humbling of America.


No…. This is the CIA’s Mess.

Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh had been democratically elected in 1951 on a popular platform of nationalizing Iran's oil industry, which had been controlled by the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (later BP). Britain, which received the vast majority of oil. London convinced the Eisenhower admin and the CIA to engineer a coup.

Operation TPAJAX, executed by the CIA in August 1953, toppled Mossadegh and reinstalled Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi as an authoritarian ruler.

By the late 1970s, the Shah's regime, which was inserted by the CIA, had become deeply unpopular. His lavish spending, political repression, created mass radicalism in Iran. In January 1979, massive protests forced the Shah to flee Iran. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, a Shia cleric who had been exiled for 15 years, returned from Paris and established the Islamic Republic of Iran

Had the CIA left Iran alone, and hadn’t raped iran’s oil for Britain & American use, radicalism in Iran would never had incurred.




Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10728 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:07 am to
Ok, enlighten me; What threats to us?

Didn't Trump himself talk often about not having more wars, yet he's bombing the shite out of all kinds of countries as we speak?

I thought that we were told months ago that the 12 day war set Iran back a long time.

Are you denying this is a war on behalf of Israel?
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15127 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:08 am to
We have gotten ourselves embroiled in far too many things but let's don't pretend the US is the only player in the ME and to dismiss its strategic standing in the world.

If we wish to roll back the hands of time to unravel today's challenge my British Mandate sees and raises your 1950s Eisenhower....

No one can unring a bell but one can darn sure rearrange the seating and leave no place for an outfit which has no interest in peace -- us and Israel aside - did the IRGC not just murder an estimated 30k of its own?

Thank you for the civility...back to sleep I go
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 4:13 am
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3778 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:12 am to
hawkeye007

You have no idea what you are talking about, learn some Iranian history and come back.

Mohammad Mosaddegh was not elected in democratically election.

He was leading in the vote when he and his followers stopped the vote.

He is not being elected as the leader of Iran, he is being elected to the prime minister position and was handpicked by the shah to run for that spot.

Mosaddegh lead a coup against the shah.

And broke agreements with Britian and the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was fixing to invade Iran to force the oil agreement, this is at a time the cold war was already hot.

Britian and the US stepped in to stop the soviets and enforce the agreements from 1941.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2539 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:13 am to
Wtf do you mean they were not threatening us. Are you blind? As Biden was lifting sanctions, giving them hundreds of billions of dollars and re entering the nuclear deal. They attacked U.S soldiers 80 times as that was happening killing 3. They were not threatening us they were actually attacking us with the money the democrats gave them.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10728 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:19 am to
Why didn't we invade when that happened years ago, then?

Truth is, Israel is the lead dog here. I don't get how this is even a controversial statement. Rubio basically admitted it.

About the Democrats; frick them too. They have zero moral high ground here, because just 15 min ago, they were happy AF that we were being world police in Ukraine.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5503 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:20 am to
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Mosaddegh lead a coup against the shah.


Wrong.

On Aug. 19, 2013, the CIA publicly admitted for the first time its involvement in the 1953 coup against Iran's elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh.

The documents provided details of the CIA's plan at the time, which was led by senior officer Kermit Roosevelt Jr., the grandson of U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt. Over the course of four days in August 1953, Roosevelt would orchestrate not one, but two attempts to destabilize the government of Iran, forever changing the relationship between the country and the U.S.

Mohammad Mossadegh was a beloved figure in Iran. During his tenure, he introduced a range of social and economic policies, the most significant being the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry. Great Britain had controlled Iran's oil for decades through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. After months of talks the prime minister broke off negotiations and denied the British any further involvement in Iran's oil industry. Britain then appealed to the United States for help, which eventually led the CIA to orchestrate the overthrow of Mossadegh and restore power to Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran



Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2539 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:24 am to
While we can go back to the 50s with plenty of blame to go around. Trump had crippled Iran, then Biden, the democrats and Thomas Massie opened up the bank. They funded Oct 7th, the 350 attack on U.S. soldiers and multiple attacks on civilians.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2539 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:28 am to
We didnt invade years ago because Biden was in office, democrats were in control and they opened up the bank to them. They didn't go in because they thought they could buy them off.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67242 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:29 am to
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Ok, enlighten me; What threats to us?


If by this point you still refuse to acknowledge that a country who chants "death to America", is stockpiling inordinate amounts of ballistic missiles, and refuses to stop their nuclear program is a threat to us, I don't really have anything else to say to you that will convince you.

Enjoy shilling for a cult of theocracy that would behead you given the chance

Oh, and by the way, they have terrorist sleeper cells in the US, one of which just attacked a bar in Austin.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10728 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:30 am to
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"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."- Bibi Netanyahu


I'm not saying Iran is innocent. They fund Hamas. But, the guy in charge of Israel RIGHT NOW supported their existence, for political reasons.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3778 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:31 am to
Tammany Tom

Mohammad Mossadegh is not a beloved figure in 1953, his faction is only about 1/3 of the country and the voting is by region.

Even with the backing of the Shah he was falling behind as his region had already turned in their votes and the others had not. Over 1/3 the vote for prime minister was still to be counted when the vote was stopped.

On Aug. 19, 2013, the CIA publicly admitted for the first time its involvement in the 1953 coup against Iran's elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh. I never said that otherwise, we helped the British intelligence led the coup against
Mohammad Mossadegh.

But to think of as Mohammad Mossadegh as a beloved figure, is modern propaganda. He is in charge of one major faction and a region.

The most significant being the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry, which is the cause of his begin removed. As I posted he broke agreements from 1941. This is why the Soviet are going to invade Iran, which is one of the causes on why the US helped Britian on this issue.

Please learn more on the issue.
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 4:35 am
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10728 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:39 am to
Well, we definitely have a lot of Jihadists that have been imported because of unbelievably stupid Leftist immigration policies and allowing the hoards to flood in. This is also true of Republicans who let in waves of Muslim refugees.

It's an Islam thing more than an Iran thing.

Me not wanting the US involved in more ME quagmires is "schilling for a cult theocracy"?

BTW, isn't that EXACTLY what you guys are doing schilling for a religious ethno-state?
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