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276 lost jobs today in the Baton Rouge area
Posted on 8/18/09 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 8/18/09 at 5:35 pm
Heard that 226 people are being let go by Louisiana Technical College systems this week and that 50 people in management were let go by the Belle of Baton Rouge today.
Know that the new director of Technical College systems is from Colorado. Don't understand how that many people can be let go statewide. Why not do the LSU thing and reduce everyone's hours? Mandatory now all LSU folks take 52 hours off this year. At least that keeps the economy going. Huey Long wanted to share the wealth. How about share the economic crisis so not so many are burdened? Everyone take a small share.
And what is so stupid? People who started working for the state at 21 right out of college who are now in their 50's let go after 30+ years of service. Apparently we have idiots in bureaucracy. If the math was done, these folks have been part of the drop program, which they have guaranteed income of the average of their 3 highest years of salary. That doesn't include all the retirement benefits. Why not cut the salaries of those over $100,000 (state employees) by 3- 5%?????? At $5,000 on a $100,000 salary with 5 of these cut, that is the starting pay of a young teacher. Or, if you had to let go, why not let go of the newest employees with the least experience. Surely they will cost the state as least as possible with no retirement and drop program. The state is forcing well working citizens to retire.
Not only does the state have to pay these people their well earned retirement when they could be able bodied working citizens justly earning wages near their retirement package, there is the unemployment factor.
I also have a problem with hiring outsiders to run our govt agencies. There should be some point system or requirements of Lousiana residency to have a state job. Everyone moans about how behind we are in everything, yet we do nothing to keep our young educated people here.
I don't know much about the Belle's layoffs, but I am sure the parent company is trying to spread their losses nationwide. STILL..... the reduced shifts could have made a big difference.
Thoughts???????
Know that the new director of Technical College systems is from Colorado. Don't understand how that many people can be let go statewide. Why not do the LSU thing and reduce everyone's hours? Mandatory now all LSU folks take 52 hours off this year. At least that keeps the economy going. Huey Long wanted to share the wealth. How about share the economic crisis so not so many are burdened? Everyone take a small share.
And what is so stupid? People who started working for the state at 21 right out of college who are now in their 50's let go after 30+ years of service. Apparently we have idiots in bureaucracy. If the math was done, these folks have been part of the drop program, which they have guaranteed income of the average of their 3 highest years of salary. That doesn't include all the retirement benefits. Why not cut the salaries of those over $100,000 (state employees) by 3- 5%?????? At $5,000 on a $100,000 salary with 5 of these cut, that is the starting pay of a young teacher. Or, if you had to let go, why not let go of the newest employees with the least experience. Surely they will cost the state as least as possible with no retirement and drop program. The state is forcing well working citizens to retire.
Not only does the state have to pay these people their well earned retirement when they could be able bodied working citizens justly earning wages near their retirement package, there is the unemployment factor.
I also have a problem with hiring outsiders to run our govt agencies. There should be some point system or requirements of Lousiana residency to have a state job. Everyone moans about how behind we are in everything, yet we do nothing to keep our young educated people here.
I don't know much about the Belle's layoffs, but I am sure the parent company is trying to spread their losses nationwide. STILL..... the reduced shifts could have made a big difference.
Thoughts???????
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Posted on 8/18/09 at 5:50 pm to rmc
EDIT: I am totally irrelevant here!
This post was edited on 8/18/09 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 8/18/09 at 6:06 pm to QueenOfTheBigAP
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At least that keeps the economy going. Huey Long wanted to share the wealth. How about share the economic crisis so not so many are burdened? Everyone take a small share.
Uh, no.
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Or, if you had to let go, why not let go of the newest employees with the least experience.
For the same reason you want to lower salaries of those who are making more. They aren't making that amount, they cost less. Cut the fat.
And you're kidding me to think the state didn't need to cut back on employees. I'd also venture to guess that with the downturn in the economy less people are paying tuition to LTCS.
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I also have a problem with hiring outsiders to run our govt agencies. There should be some point system or requirements of Lousiana residency to have a state job. Everyone moans about how behind we are in everything, yet we do nothing to keep our young educated people here.
Wait so do you want people to come back or not? You realize that if we keep the same old people running the same old thing, then it just further perpetuates the process.
Posted on 8/18/09 at 6:10 pm to QueenOfTheBigAP
Obamacare will give us all security.
Posted on 8/18/09 at 6:31 pm to Homeboy
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Obamacare won't pass
Posted on 8/18/09 at 6:45 pm to QueenOfTheBigAP
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Heard that 226 people are being let go by Louisiana Technical College systems this week
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Thoughts???????
It's not enough. The state needs to cut about 20,000 state jobs just be in line with Alabama's number of state employees.
Sooooo, take the 226 and add two zeros = 22,600 and I would say
.Posted on 8/18/09 at 7:34 pm to LSURussian
Y'all make a bunch of sense. Sure, cut a bunch of state jobs. You think that automatically fixes the economy? You take 22,600 jobs out of the economy and see if your job won't be affected. You are a real smart one. It is a trickle down effect. The mess didn't happen over night and you can't fix the problem OVER NIGHT by getting rid of jobs on a mass scale. Sure, everyone hates state employees!!! To cut in education is the WORST possible area in which to cut.
AND YES, I agree our problems don't need to be fixed by outsiders. I agree that civil service needs to hire first from within & promote within. Are you telling me we don't have enough people here in this state that are brilliant enough to make decisions & run this state? If that is the case, pack your bags & move out to a state you think has all their problems fixed.
I remember being at LSU in 1993 when there were cuts in education then. Think 93 & 94 were the only years LSU didn't have a GUMBO b/c of the cuts. I worked for the education dept on campus. Each professor had a limited number of pieces of paper they could use in a given month. Think it was something like 500 sheets per professor. Is that what you want for your kids?????????? Not enough paper for critical lessons? Oh, I remember the creative ways professors used to try to beat it. No hand outs for study guides, no pop quizzes, reused tests from semesters before which made cheating more prominent.
BTW... you talk about Alabama's low number of employees. Nick Saban's salary at their state university is enough for about 50 new teachers! Go figure!!!!!!!
AND YES, I agree our problems don't need to be fixed by outsiders. I agree that civil service needs to hire first from within & promote within. Are you telling me we don't have enough people here in this state that are brilliant enough to make decisions & run this state? If that is the case, pack your bags & move out to a state you think has all their problems fixed.
I remember being at LSU in 1993 when there were cuts in education then. Think 93 & 94 were the only years LSU didn't have a GUMBO b/c of the cuts. I worked for the education dept on campus. Each professor had a limited number of pieces of paper they could use in a given month. Think it was something like 500 sheets per professor. Is that what you want for your kids?????????? Not enough paper for critical lessons? Oh, I remember the creative ways professors used to try to beat it. No hand outs for study guides, no pop quizzes, reused tests from semesters before which made cheating more prominent.
BTW... you talk about Alabama's low number of employees. Nick Saban's salary at their state university is enough for about 50 new teachers! Go figure!!!!!!!
Posted on 8/18/09 at 7:42 pm to QueenOfTheBigAP
State jobs =/= education.
Posted on 8/18/09 at 7:45 pm to QueenOfTheBigAP
And BTW... for those of you who are unaware, Huey Long did MORE for this state than any other politician in modern times.
Yes, he was conniving.
Yes, he may have been crooked.
BUT......He was a HUGE supporter of education. You read the history books & learn about the lunches & textbooks.
He was the one who built LSU at its current location so it could grow into a great learning institution within this state. It used to be at the current location of the state capitol building. The pentagon barracks were the dorms and really the only part of the school still standing. Look thru the pictures of years gone by and see how active he was in promoting education for the masses & higher education. Prior to the move, it really was just a military school.
You take a look back & see how many jobs Huey Long brought into the economy as it was on the brink of the Great Depression and going into it. Look at the river - Old Bridge (which btw... it was built to a certain height so that no ocean going vessel could get past the port of Baton Rouge!) For the lesser educated, the Mississippi is a deep channel and could be navigated further inland. There were numerous jobs he put in place with construction and growth for the state.
Everyone has a bad side & a good side. Overall, he brought more good than bad. Read your history books!!!!
Yes, he was conniving.
Yes, he may have been crooked.
BUT......He was a HUGE supporter of education. You read the history books & learn about the lunches & textbooks.
He was the one who built LSU at its current location so it could grow into a great learning institution within this state. It used to be at the current location of the state capitol building. The pentagon barracks were the dorms and really the only part of the school still standing. Look thru the pictures of years gone by and see how active he was in promoting education for the masses & higher education. Prior to the move, it really was just a military school.
You take a look back & see how many jobs Huey Long brought into the economy as it was on the brink of the Great Depression and going into it. Look at the river - Old Bridge (which btw... it was built to a certain height so that no ocean going vessel could get past the port of Baton Rouge!) For the lesser educated, the Mississippi is a deep channel and could be navigated further inland. There were numerous jobs he put in place with construction and growth for the state.
Everyone has a bad side & a good side. Overall, he brought more good than bad. Read your history books!!!!
Posted on 8/18/09 at 9:00 pm to QueenOfTheBigAP
quote:
Sure, cut a bunch of state jobs. You think that automatically fixes the economy? You take 22,600 jobs out of the economy and see if your job won't be affected.
Well the state will now have BILLIONS of dollars now available to spend more wisely.
quote:
To cut in education is the WORST possible area in which to cut.
Did you ever think that this money now saved for the LTC system might make the system BETTER?
quote:Talk to anyone who studies leadership theory and they will tell you a diversified mind is the best way to approach a situation. If you narrow the scope to only what you know in Louisiana then you don't change anything. Perhaps there are things in other states that do things better than we do and we're now using their thought process. Which most would say is a good thing.
Are you telling me we don't have enough people here in this state that are brilliant enough to make decisions & run this state?
You don't have to be born, raised, and educated here to show devotion to a state, company, etc. If so, then you'd lose about 90% of your state leaders currently, our governor included.
quote:Well maybe they wouldn't have had to enact this had they cut employees.
Think 93 & 94 were the only years LSU didn't have a GUMBO b/c of the cuts. I worked for the education dept on campus. Each professor had a limited number of pieces of paper they could use in a given month. Think it was something like 500 sheets per professor. Is that what you want for your kids?????????? Not enough paper for critical lessons? Oh, I remember the creative ways professors used to try to beat it. No hand outs for study guides, no pop quizzes, reused tests from semesters before which made cheating more prominent.
Also, to compare the education you receive today from LSU to what occurred in 1993 is night and day.
quote:
BTW... you talk about Alabama's low number of employees. Nick Saban's salary at their state university is enough for about 50 new teachers! Go figure!!!!!!!
Saban, like Miles only receives a small portion of their salary from the State. The rest comes from TAF.
But go ahead and quit spewing shite out of your arse, because you are the problem that we have here in Louisiana. Reluctantly to change and progress is the downfall...we can't just do it how Long did it forever.
Posted on 8/18/09 at 11:52 pm to Golfer
I love it when people talk and they act like they know something.
#1 Bobby Jindal is from Louisiana. His parents are from India. He graduated from Baton Rouge High School. He attended LSU. He was raised in Kenilworth Subdivision.
You assume that people raised and that are from here in Louisiana are STUPID. There are many well traveled, well educated people who have been forced to leave this state.
#2 Education is worst now at any higher learning institute than in 1993 because of all the cuts made.
#3 Saban is not being paid by TAF, but I did hear some rich @$$ Bama fans help pull off his hire. Have you read about his football team? Last year, about 5 of them got arrested for craziness like breaking & entering, fighting, etc. Too much money placed on sports, whether it be from TAF or not.
#4 I am a 10 year LSU alum. You assume that I have a dated education. My education is just as good as the education received now by students. If I applied today to attend the university, my ACT score & grades would have still admitted me. Back in 1990, the entrance score was a 17. Today I think it is at 23 or 24.
#5 You have no clue what positions were eliminated within the state before you spoke. These positions were for program evaluators (good to know how your education measures up), directors of programs that cooped with industry to insure the employability of the students (a job feeder like cooping in universities). So now who will be a liason with industry to get students hired? These folks were the ones who got students grants after the hurricances to insure they got job placement.... like students who lost their tools after Katrina. These are the same folks who produced a nationwide winner in electrical engineering that is competing at the world level in 2 weeks. This young man competing is a freshman at LSU. These same people were also the ones who got LSU involved with his training, as he is learning things at a PHD level, to competively compete on a world level.
Maybe LSU & other universities should fire their career services development folks. Those are the ones who you see before you graduate, who help make sure you are employable, and help bring in recruiters to help find jobs for students. Great move!!!!!
#1 Bobby Jindal is from Louisiana. His parents are from India. He graduated from Baton Rouge High School. He attended LSU. He was raised in Kenilworth Subdivision.
You assume that people raised and that are from here in Louisiana are STUPID. There are many well traveled, well educated people who have been forced to leave this state.
#2 Education is worst now at any higher learning institute than in 1993 because of all the cuts made.
#3 Saban is not being paid by TAF, but I did hear some rich @$$ Bama fans help pull off his hire. Have you read about his football team? Last year, about 5 of them got arrested for craziness like breaking & entering, fighting, etc. Too much money placed on sports, whether it be from TAF or not.
#4 I am a 10 year LSU alum. You assume that I have a dated education. My education is just as good as the education received now by students. If I applied today to attend the university, my ACT score & grades would have still admitted me. Back in 1990, the entrance score was a 17. Today I think it is at 23 or 24.
#5 You have no clue what positions were eliminated within the state before you spoke. These positions were for program evaluators (good to know how your education measures up), directors of programs that cooped with industry to insure the employability of the students (a job feeder like cooping in universities). So now who will be a liason with industry to get students hired? These folks were the ones who got students grants after the hurricances to insure they got job placement.... like students who lost their tools after Katrina. These are the same folks who produced a nationwide winner in electrical engineering that is competing at the world level in 2 weeks. This young man competing is a freshman at LSU. These same people were also the ones who got LSU involved with his training, as he is learning things at a PHD level, to competively compete on a world level.
Maybe LSU & other universities should fire their career services development folks. Those are the ones who you see before you graduate, who help make sure you are employable, and help bring in recruiters to help find jobs for students. Great move!!!!!
Posted on 8/19/09 at 12:02 am to QueenOfTheBigAP
quote:
I love it when people talk and they act like they know something.
My job is workforce. I think I know what I'm talking about here. quote:
#1 Bobby Jindal is from Louisiana. His parents are from India. He graduated from Baton Rouge High School. He attended LSU. He was raised in Kenilworth Subdivision.
Thanks for the lesson, I know this. You do realize what he did after High School though, correct?
quote:
You assume that people raised and that are from here in Louisiana are STUPID. There are many well traveled, well educated people who have been forced to leave this state.
When did I say this? If that was the case, I don't think I would have elected to come here on my own free will, then become engaged to a Louisiana resident...I'll be sure and tell my fiancee that you said I think she's stupid.
quote:I don't think this needs an answer.
#2 Education is worst now at any higher learning institute than in 1993 because of all the cuts made.
quote:LSU Athletics receives no state funding...nice try.
#3 Saban is not being paid by TAF, but I did hear some rich @$$ Bama fans help pull off his hire. Have you read about his football team? Last year, about 5 of them got arrested for craziness like breaking & entering, fighting, etc. Too much money placed on sports, whether it be from TAF or not.
quote:So is the quality of the education now worse or better than '93?
#4 I am a 10 year LSU alum. You assume that I have a dated education. My education is just as good as the education received now by students. If I applied today to attend the university, my ACT score & grades would have still admitted me. Back in 1990, the entrance score was a 17. Today I think it is at 23 or 24.
quote:You're right, I didn't know. But it still doesn't mean anything to your meaningless and ill-logical rant.
#5 You have no clue what positions were eliminated within the state before you spoke.
Also, it sounds like you just got fired...btw.
Posted on 8/19/09 at 12:39 am to Golfer
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LSU Athletics receives no state funding...nice try.
Then why in the HECK is Miles, as well as every other person in the LSU Athletics Dept, on the list of wages paid to state employees if they are NOT state employees?
And BTW.... I have never worked for the state. NEVER! Will never work for them. I am in the real estate and own 3 businesses with a total of about 100 employees. No matter how BAD the ECONOMY has been, I have not let ANY of them go unless their performance merited a release. I have had to cut back in areas including hours at times, but cutting back jobs is not an answer to solving the problems we have. It only makes more issues. People who can't pay rent, people who can't pay car notes, afford electricity. People who can't buy clothes for their kids, worry about putting dinner on the table, and worry how they will make it. What about their healthcare that comes along as a perk of having a job?
Apparently you have never faced unemployment. I have and know how hard it is to make it. I lost about everything I owned 12 years ago & swore I would NEVER let a person go to make ends meet after living thru that ordeal. I would cut in other places before cutting a job of a good employee.
I would love to see any recent stories on how suicide rates are correlating with the economy as I am sure they are rising as well.
Posted on 8/19/09 at 12:47 am to QueenOfTheBigAP
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Then why in the HECK is Miles, as well as every other person in the LSU Athletics Dept, on the list of wages paid to state employees if they are NOT state employees?
Their check is cut from a state entity (LSU Athletic Department). The money used to pay their salaries comes solely from licensing, ticket sales, sponsorships, etc.
quote:
And BTW.... I have never worked for the state. NEVER! Will never work for them.
So you agree that they have inefficiencies that need to be taken care of?
quote:While I certainly applaud your efforts to maintain your workforce, I'd say that's not the best position to put your business in. But I'll let you make that determination.
No matter how BAD the ECONOMY has been, I have not let ANY of them go unless their performance merited a release. I have had to cut back in areas including hours at times, but cutting back jobs is not an answer to solving the problems we have. It only makes more issues.
quote:
I would love to see any recent stories on how suicide rates are correlating with the economy as I am sure they are rising as well.
Spare me all the sensationalism...lets focus on the facts.
- State is in a budget deficit.
- Cutbacks were required at all levels in varying amounts.
- LCTS enacted on that today.
I'm certainly not a proponent of the human effects of the scenario, however, things needed to be done.
This post was edited on 8/19/09 at 12:51 am
Posted on 8/19/09 at 12:54 am to QueenOfTheBigAP
BTW... Golfer, I work in the real estate industry and have had a 15 year career specializing in rental asset management. I have lunch with managers of these places and see the rest of them frequently. All of these managers network and keep surveys on how other properties are competing. Most people in the rental industry lie to outsiders because they are just that way.
We all talk about what is going on in the business. We are losing renters because of the trickle down effect. Places in hot spots of town are at 89% occupancy right now. That is post 911 type occupancy. Economic occupancy is different than physical occupancy & I vouch that economic is much lower. Bet all those casino upper level managers will be giving notice on their apartments and moving back to wherever they came from.
Talk to one from Philadelphia who gave his notice to move today. Moving back in with family. And yet the local economy succumbs one notch further.
We all talk about what is going on in the business. We are losing renters because of the trickle down effect. Places in hot spots of town are at 89% occupancy right now. That is post 911 type occupancy. Economic occupancy is different than physical occupancy & I vouch that economic is much lower. Bet all those casino upper level managers will be giving notice on their apartments and moving back to wherever they came from.
Talk to one from Philadelphia who gave his notice to move today. Moving back in with family. And yet the local economy succumbs one notch further.
Posted on 8/19/09 at 7:44 am to QueenOfTheBigAP
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Why not do the LSU thing and reduce everyone's hours? Mandatory now all LSU folks take 52 hours off this year.
Umm, no. The furlough plan ha been postponed indefinitely. LINK
Posted on 8/19/09 at 8:50 am to QueenOfTheBigAP
You lose a lot of credibility on this board when you post obviously incorrect information. You are allowed to do that on the Poli Board only.
No, he didn't. LSU moved to its new campus from the state capitol area in 1925. The new campus buildings were dedicated in 1926. Huey Long didn't become governor until 1928.
No, he didn't, unless he attended some summer courses while he was still in high school. His official biography does not mention attending LSU.
After graduating from Baton Rouge Magnet High School, Jindal attended and graduated from Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island. He became a Rhodes Scholar and then attended New College, Oxford in England.
You are correct, which is a really good thing since Saban left LSU's employment 6 years ago. I would hope the Tiger Athletic Foundation continues to NOT pay the head coach of the University of Alabama.
LSU's athletic department is the ONLY state funded university athletic department in Louisiana which does not receive any taxpayer funding or funding from student activity fees.
How is this related to state layoffs? Private businesses must do what they need to do to stay in business.
I recommend you take a deep breath and exhale slowly. Your panic is obvious.
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Huey Long.....He was the one who built LSU at its current location. Prior to the move, it really was just a military school.
No, he didn't. LSU moved to its new campus from the state capitol area in 1925. The new campus buildings were dedicated in 1926. Huey Long didn't become governor until 1928.
quote:Take your own advice.
Read your history books!!!!
quote:This has no relevance to LSU's funding.
Nick Saban's salary at their state university is enough for about 50 new teachers! Go figure!!!!!!!
quote:
#1 Bobby Jindal is from Louisiana. ..... He attended LSU.
No, he didn't, unless he attended some summer courses while he was still in high school. His official biography does not mention attending LSU.
After graduating from Baton Rouge Magnet High School, Jindal attended and graduated from Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island. He became a Rhodes Scholar and then attended New College, Oxford in England.
quote:
#3 Saban is not being paid by TAF,
You are correct, which is a really good thing since Saban left LSU's employment 6 years ago. I would hope the Tiger Athletic Foundation continues to NOT pay the head coach of the University of Alabama.
quote:The ACT scores of incoming LSU freshmen last year were the highest of any class in history. This year's freshman classes' scores have not been released yet.
#2 Education is worst (sic and ironic
quote:They are on the list of state employees because they ARE state employees. However, LSU's athletic department expenses, including all coaches' salaries, are paid 100% from self-generated funds from ticket sales, licensing, TAF contributions, etc., just as Golfer said in his post.
why in the HECK is Miles, as well as every other person in the LSU Athletics Dept, on the list of wages paid to state employees if they are NOT state employees?
LSU's athletic department is the ONLY state funded university athletic department in Louisiana which does not receive any taxpayer funding or funding from student activity fees.
quote:
Bet all those casino upper level managers will be giving notice on their apartments and moving back to wherever they came from.
How is this related to state layoffs? Private businesses must do what they need to do to stay in business.
I recommend you take a deep breath and exhale slowly. Your panic is obvious.
Posted on 8/19/09 at 9:09 am to LSURussian
I think the people in this area should be concerned. It is a ripple effect. So nearly 300 people lose their job. This doesn't include the job layoffs you didn't hear about because they were hush hush. Dow laid off a bunch of folks earlier in the year. Huge chain stores who aren't doing well nationwide have cut back here as well to stop the bleeding overall. I know for sure that places like Home Depot have laid off in rather large numbers. Don't you think it could possibly lead to you losing your job?????
Think about it. Lets say 1,500 people lost their jobs locally over the summer. They first cut out disposable spending. That means that they won't frequent restaurants or spend in stores. Then your kid in school has lost his waiting or clerk job. These laid off folks can't buy cars, so car sales people starve. They can't purchase real estate, so people who sell can't survive. They can't pay their bank notes, so the banks are all in crisis. The banks lay off their folks to lessen the blow.
We aren't talking about non educated minimum wage people losing their jobs. These folks that have lost their jobs are college educated, middle income. These are people who spend & put money out there in the economy on a broad base.
You know what's crazy about unemployment ratings? It is only the people receiving unemployment. There is no way to track the people like real estate, insurance or contractors who are commissioned based and aren't making a buck and aren't on the dole.
I know 2 folks for sure who lost their jobs in Dec 2008 and are still unemployed. They are no longer in the statistics. I actually called Jindal's office to see what kind of programs could help the first one, as he was a contractor that didn't qualify for unemployment. Contract labor with a cutback. He has been living off credit card advances and may lose his home this month. Guess what! Jindal's office said there were no programs for folks like him. How nice is that???
This I can tell you. I have noticed a huge increase of the number of people begging in the streets. I used to never get approached at gas stations. Now, I would put $10 that I get a solicitation each time I gas up or stop at a convenience store.
You just aren't worried because you haven't lost your job or haven't had people in your life lose jobs. You haven't seen it on a first hand basis.
Think about it. Lets say 1,500 people lost their jobs locally over the summer. They first cut out disposable spending. That means that they won't frequent restaurants or spend in stores. Then your kid in school has lost his waiting or clerk job. These laid off folks can't buy cars, so car sales people starve. They can't purchase real estate, so people who sell can't survive. They can't pay their bank notes, so the banks are all in crisis. The banks lay off their folks to lessen the blow.
We aren't talking about non educated minimum wage people losing their jobs. These folks that have lost their jobs are college educated, middle income. These are people who spend & put money out there in the economy on a broad base.
You know what's crazy about unemployment ratings? It is only the people receiving unemployment. There is no way to track the people like real estate, insurance or contractors who are commissioned based and aren't making a buck and aren't on the dole.
I know 2 folks for sure who lost their jobs in Dec 2008 and are still unemployed. They are no longer in the statistics. I actually called Jindal's office to see what kind of programs could help the first one, as he was a contractor that didn't qualify for unemployment. Contract labor with a cutback. He has been living off credit card advances and may lose his home this month. Guess what! Jindal's office said there were no programs for folks like him. How nice is that???
This I can tell you. I have noticed a huge increase of the number of people begging in the streets. I used to never get approached at gas stations. Now, I would put $10 that I get a solicitation each time I gas up or stop at a convenience store.
You just aren't worried because you haven't lost your job or haven't had people in your life lose jobs. You haven't seen it on a first hand basis.
Posted on 8/19/09 at 9:20 am to QueenOfTheBigAP
quote:That was not the point of my first post. I simply said the state needs to lay off 10 times the number you referenced. Then the state will be getting serious about the budget deficit.
I think the people in this area should be concerned.
quote:Baton Rouge was one of only two Louisiana SMSA's which had job growth year over year as of June.
Lets say 1,500 people lost their jobs locally over the summer.
quote:If your prior posts, which I pointed out contained many factual errors and which you refused to acknowledge in your most recent post, had established even a small amount of credibility on your part, I would believe you. But they didn't and I don't. I am issuing an official Money Talk Board BS Alert.
I know 2 folks for sure who lost their jobs in Dec 2008 and are still unemployed. They are no longer in the statistics. I actually called Jindal's office to see what kind of programs could help the first one, as he was a contractor that didn't qualify for unemployment.
quote:That is correct. Since I own the company I work for, I refuse to lay me off....
You just aren't worried because you haven't lost your job
quote:Just the opposite. My daughter recently graduated from LSU (unlike Gov. Jindal, she DID graduate from LSU!) and was offered a teacher's job (public school) in July and she started her first teacher's job two weeks ago at $40,000/9 months + full benefits. (Public school teacher's starting salaries are public information.)
haven't had people in your life lose jobs.
Posted on 8/19/09 at 9:35 am to QueenOfTheBigAP
I dont recall anyone saying things were peachy around here. You seem to be talking out of all sides.. on one hand you say they shouldnt be cutting jobs and on the other side you talk about how bad things are and can be. When things are bad people lose their jobs..fact.. To not do so would/could be to the detrimate of the ones not laid off.. And by the way, our state government is a bloated wasteful entity that Long helped propagate. Unless you now a tremendous amount about Long I wouldnt come around here spouting off about the historical relevance of what Long has saddled this State with.
To me it seems like you want to rant and find some validation of your thoughts.
To me it seems like you want to rant and find some validation of your thoughts.
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