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So Tulane finished higher in total offense than we did

Posted on 1/2/10 at 9:51 pm
Posted by givemeabeer
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/2/10 at 9:51 pm
Tulane - 105
LSU - 107

And, here's the rest of the list of teams finishing below LSU in total offense:
Wyoming - recruiting (2006 - 102nd, 2007 - 89th, 2008 - 96th, 2009 - 83rd)
North Carolina - recruiting (2006 - 30th, 2007 - 17th, 2008 - 32nd, 2009 - 9th)
Vanderbilt - recruiting (2006 - 60th, 2007 - 67th, 2008 - 90th, 2009 - 71st)
Rice
Akron
Minnesota
Ball State
San Jose State
Eastern Michigan
Army
Virginia
Washington State
New Mexico State

That's it.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 1/2/10 at 9:52 pm to
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So Tulane finished higher in total offense than we did



Yeah, and where are they ranked?
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22645 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 9:57 pm to
would say LSU went against much stronger defenses than Tulame.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133929 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 9:58 pm to
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So Tulane finished higher in total offense than we did
What bowl did they play in? I wish LSU had played Tulane this year so we could have compared the two teams.











Oh, wait.....
Posted by WarhawkTiger6
Team BB03©
Member since Jun 2009
12292 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 9:59 pm to
D.J Banks got them those 2 spots....lulz
Posted by JakeRyan
Member since Dec 2009
235 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:09 pm to
I'm sure Tulane's offense faced some highly ranked defenses, too.

You're a bright one...
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:33 pm to
hey we're 9-3. That's what we expected. Now shut up.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:34 pm to
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hey we're 9-3.



Uhhh....
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:37 pm to
Not a fair comparison. Considering we didn't allow a single point on from them when they played us.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:37 pm to
fire crowton NOW
Posted by givemeabeer
Member since Mar 2006
3306 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:43 pm to
Wasn't saying it was all apples to apples, but it still ain't exactly great. FWIW here's the rest of the SEC teams' total offense ranks:

12. Florida
14. Arkansas
19. Auburn
34. Alabama
42. Ole Miss
46. Tennessee
66. Mississippi State
73. Georgia
76. South Carolina
90. Kentucky

Seems like we had a similar strength of schedule to some of those, right? All in all, when our recruiting has been top 10 on average over the last four years, the offense is a disaster.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 10:47 pm to
9-4.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24712 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

Wasn't saying it was all apples to apples, but it still ain't exactly great. FWIW here's the rest of the SEC teams' total offense ranks:


Really not relevant, unless you add defense into the equation. The idea is to win football games. You either score alot of points, or you give up very few, or a combination of both.
Posted by HundertQuadrat
Orange County, California
Member since Dec 2009
75 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 11:14 pm to
Statisticians are still blown to their minds how LSU managed to win 9 games with their atrocious offensive stats.

I still can't explain it, it's like we won but the stats don't prove it.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 11:14 pm to
Bobby Toledo >>> Crowton
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
93223 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 11:16 pm to
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I still can't explain it



It's fairly easy.

In 9 of 13 games our offense, no matter how inferior it may be, still managed to score more points than our competition.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13691 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 11:19 pm to
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Bobby Toledo >>> Crowton

: Kige: Toledo is so good he has had a QB competition every pre-season and changed QB's by midseason.
Posted by Africom
Stuttgart, Germany
Member since Mar 2008
1641 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 11:19 pm to
slanted stat, but there is no way we should EVER not be in at least the top 50. Hell, we could have padded our stats against some of the ULL's, Tulane's and Tech, but we could not.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 11:22 pm to
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Wasn't saying it was all apples to apples, but it still ain't exactly great. FWIW here's the rest of the SEC teams' total offense ranks:

12. Florida
14. Arkansas
19. Auburn
34. Alabama
42. Ole Miss
46. Tennessee
66. Mississippi State
73. Georgia
76. South Carolina
90. Kentucky

Seems like we had a similar strength of schedule to some of those, right? All in all, when our recruiting has been top 10 on average over the last four years, the offense is a disaster.

I posted on this a few weeks ago.

You raise a good point, however another factor is that all those teams like Tulane that play shot teams and are highly ranked displace the other teams.

As I said then, and say again now, that isn't to say LSU's offense doesn't suck, only addressing the facts as far as the numbers, rankings, etc.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/2/10 at 11:29 pm to
i know our offense sucked, but statistics are not and never have been or ever will be the end all story. tulanes schedule was way easier than ours. we came up against way better defenses played in much more difficult circumstances against juiced opponents and their first strings. say, bama played tulane (which they didn't this year), their players would be cruisin' and their 2nd and 3rd teamers would have seen a lot of action. statistics alone are just not that revealing in college. they are a tool in a general sort of way and should not be ignored, but hanging one's hat on stats simply doesn't get the job done. having said that, our offense sucked and i sure didn't need stats to tell me why. i don't care what the recruiting services came up with, our OL and to some extent DL players were overrated. lineman are very difficult to rate in high school.
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