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Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:28 am
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:28 am
Made it to the shoreline ,if so where?
Posted by Bussemer
Heading South
Member since Dec 2007
2584 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:35 am to


Maybe near Breton/Chandeleur, but I havent seen any specific reports.

Here;s something
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:38 am to
Its hit Chandeleur Yesterday
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61605 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:40 am to
It hit a few of the islands, but it is just a light coating. None of the heavy stuff made it to land.
Posted by OldIowaTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
7313 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:42 am to
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It hit a few of the islands, but it is just a light coating


Are the booms helping?

And what does a "light coating" do to wildlife. I realize nothing good but how harmful is it? How close is the stuff that's coming ashore to the Breton National Wildlife Refuge?

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None of the heavy stuff made it to land.


Any chance that it stays that way or will it eventually come as well?
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25870 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 11:08 am to
It looks like a good portion of it has gone below the surface due to the wave action. I suspect that tar balls will wash ashore along the gulf coast beaches for some time.
Posted by OldIowaTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
7313 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 11:21 am to
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It looks like a good portion of it has gone below the surface due to the wave action. I suspect that tar balls will wash ashore along the gulf coast beaches for some time.


I'm ignorant. What does that mean? Is it a good thing? I understand the fish probably lose out but I would think that birds rolling around in "tar balls" would be preferable to swimming in oil. Thanks for some explanation.

Just trying to figure out how depressed I should be.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25870 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 11:28 am to
Initially, the lighter components of the oil evaporate much like a small gasoline spill. In the cases of heavier types of oil, such as crude oil or home heating oil, much of the oil remains behind. At the same time, some crude oils mix with water to form an emulsion that often looks like chocolate pudding. This emulsion is much thicker and stickier than the original oil. Winds and waves continue to stretch and tear the oil patches into smaller pieces, or tarballs. While some tarballs may be as large as pancakes, most are coin-sized (a relatively large tarball is shown in the photo above). Tarballs are very persistent in the marine environment and can travel hundreds of miles

NOAA info on tarballs
Posted by OldIowaTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
7313 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 11:39 am to
Okay, I really appreciate the explanation and the link helped as well.

But how bad is that for the ecosystem, marshes, feeding grounds, birds, etc? Sounds to me like it is sort of a "best-case scenario" but am I not understanding the severity correctly?
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25870 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 11:41 am to
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But how bad is that for the ecosystem, marshes, feeding grounds, birds, etc? Sounds to me like it is sort of a "best-case scenario" but am I not understanding the severity correctly?


Can't be great for the environment but I would think it much better and easier to clean than a heavy coating.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21516 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 12:34 pm to



I used to spec fish there as a kid.
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
18105 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:12 pm to
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Weathering processes eventually create a tarball that is hard and crusty on the outside and soft and gooey on the inside, not unlike a toasted marshmallow. Turbulence in the water or beach activity from people or animals may break open tarballs, exposing their softer, more fluid centers
.

Tarballs sound delicous!
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10451 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:20 pm to

It will definitely have some effect. I expect that the effects are going to be more mental than anything house.

However the environment is something that is somewhat uncertain, and science is all over the map. So considering your position and where your interest lie (big oil or environmentalist) will determine where you stand on the subject.

The answer is probably some where in the middle.

I don't see it being a doomsday event and kill all living creatures, however it could definitely have short term environmental effects and long term mental effects (perception) on those who have a stake.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44495 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:26 pm to
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Made it to the shoreline ,if so where


WWLTV showed on the noon news that it was ashore somewhere is Mississippi.
Posted by Bussemer
Heading South
Member since Dec 2007
2584 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:50 pm to


They just updated this from yesterday
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
18105 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 2:05 pm to
Ruh roh. Looks like some oil is getting caught up in an eddy of the Loop Current.

:omg:
Posted by Bussemer
Heading South
Member since Dec 2007
2584 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 2:09 pm to
Key West here we come
Posted by OldIowaTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
7313 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:09 pm to
God I hope the weather cooperates until they can get the dome in place (hopefully that plan works) and maybe it will just swirl in a circle for the most part then they can swoop it up. Hope, hope, hope.
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