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Can someone summarize the St. George thing for me
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:16 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:16 am
I lived out of state for the last few years, and don't know what exactly is going on. Are they trying to create a new city? It seems to be an awfully big deal here...well 1 rung below ice chest stickers. Tia 
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:16 am to GEAUXT
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:17 am to GEAUXT
depends on which version you want to hear. the st george side, or the better together side?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:18 am to GEAUXT
Not a troll BTW, I really don't know what is going on
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:18 am to GEAUXT
Rich people want to separate themselves from the culture of Baton Rouge.
While this seems like a good idea it's not as many cities that are zoned in similar ways die out.
St. George is a bad idea.
While this seems like a good idea it's not as many cities that are zoned in similar ways die out.
St. George is a bad idea.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:18 am to GEAUXT
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:18 am to GEAUXT
South EBR wants new school district. EBR Parish said no you'd have to be a city to do that. South EBR called them out on it and moved forward with a new city. Then the crazies got in on it and made the ordeal look bad on both parties.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:19 am to Pectus
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Rich people want to separate themselves from the culture of Baton Rouge.
While this seems like a good idea it's not as many cities that are zoned in similar ways die out.
St. George is a bad idea.
i laughed the entire time i read that
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:20 am to CarRamrod
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South EBR wants new school district. EBR Parish said no you'd have to be a city to do that. South EBR called them out on it and moved forward with a new city. Then the crazies got in on it and made the ordeal look bad on both parties.
Good summary
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:20 am to GEAUXT
Well from what I gather people that live in unincorporated metro Baton Rouge want to form their own city. Even though these areas are unincorporated and have been for sometime some people in Baton Rouge feel that their forming a city of their own would be a threat to Baton Rouge. Which I don't understand since those areas already aren't a part of Baton Rouge.
From the little I paid attention to it here it seems to mostly come down to tax dollars and school districts.
From the little I paid attention to it here it seems to mostly come down to tax dollars and school districts.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:21 am to CarRamrod
Hmm interesting. Thanks.
Sorry if there's worms all over the floor now, it seems the can is pretty full
Sorry if there's worms all over the floor now, it seems the can is pretty full
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:21 am to GEAUXT
south br is tired of paying the taxes for under performing schools in other areas of the parish as well as bussing kids to other schools across teh parish if desired. school quality has down down as desegregation of schools happened. middle class br blames impoverished br for this. its now towing the line of race wars since st george is 95% white ( i'm probably exaggerating this number).
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 10:29 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:28 am to Geauxld Finger
I think frontline said 60% white.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:34 am to pointdog33
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South EBR wants new school district. EBR Parish said no you'd have to be a city to do that. South EBR called them out on it and moved forward with a new city. Then the crazies got in on it and made the ordeal look bad on both parties.
I agree, good summary without involving white vs black, rich vs poor, etc.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 10:34 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:40 am to Geauxld Finger
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its now towing the line of race wars since st george is 95% white
Did you not see that Gardere lane is IN St. George? If St George wanted to keep things "white" they would of excluded that area
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:42 am to GEAUXT
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Sorry if there's worms all over the floor now, it seems the can is pretty full
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:43 am to GEAUXT
White parents don't want their precious little children to attend public schools with black children, so rather than pony up the money to send their kids to private schools, they are attempting to create their own city.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:43 am to GEAUXT
1. BR schools have been messed up for decades due to the federal government forcibly desegregating schools by bussing students all over town, far away from their neighborhoods.
2. Those with means, most of the whites and middle class, pulled out of the public, non magnet, system as violence in their schools quickly became too much for them to deal with.
3. Magnet schools brought some back in (mostly Vietnamese and middle class blacks)
4. Central incorporates to form its own school system and sees immediate success
5. People from South Baton Rouge try to form their own independent school district without incorporating, but the effort dies in the state legislature thanks much in part to then law maker Kip Holdin (now mayor/president of Baton Rouge/East Baton Rouge Parish)
6. Those same people attempt to incorporate all of the unincorporated parts of the southern end of the parish to form a new city, called St. George, so they can get their own school district. They start a petition campaign, needing at least 18,000 signatures to put incorporation on the ballot.
7. Baton Rouge city leaders reach out to large commercial centers and hospitals in the unincorporated area (Our Lady of the Lake, the Mall of Louisiana, Town Center, Celtic Studios, Laberge, LSU South Campus, ect) and move to annex them, but not the surrounding residential areas.
8. St. George supporters sue to stop the annexations.
9. Courts put the annexations on hold until the case can be settled in court.
10. This week, organizers reveal that they have over 17,000 signatures, and Frontline airs documentary "Separate but Equal?" on PBS.
That's about it. Everything else is race-baiting, grand-standing, and squabbling over the accuracy of tax revenue projections and proposed city budgets.
2. Those with means, most of the whites and middle class, pulled out of the public, non magnet, system as violence in their schools quickly became too much for them to deal with.
3. Magnet schools brought some back in (mostly Vietnamese and middle class blacks)
4. Central incorporates to form its own school system and sees immediate success
5. People from South Baton Rouge try to form their own independent school district without incorporating, but the effort dies in the state legislature thanks much in part to then law maker Kip Holdin (now mayor/president of Baton Rouge/East Baton Rouge Parish)
6. Those same people attempt to incorporate all of the unincorporated parts of the southern end of the parish to form a new city, called St. George, so they can get their own school district. They start a petition campaign, needing at least 18,000 signatures to put incorporation on the ballot.
7. Baton Rouge city leaders reach out to large commercial centers and hospitals in the unincorporated area (Our Lady of the Lake, the Mall of Louisiana, Town Center, Celtic Studios, Laberge, LSU South Campus, ect) and move to annex them, but not the surrounding residential areas.
8. St. George supporters sue to stop the annexations.
9. Courts put the annexations on hold until the case can be settled in court.
10. This week, organizers reveal that they have over 17,000 signatures, and Frontline airs documentary "Separate but Equal?" on PBS.
That's about it. Everything else is race-baiting, grand-standing, and squabbling over the accuracy of tax revenue projections and proposed city budgets.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:44 am to CarRamrod
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South EBR wants new school district. EBR Parish said no you'd have to be a city to do that. South EBR called them out on it and moved forward with a new city. Then the crazies got in on it and made the ordeal look bad on both parties.
Pretty much nailed it. And both of those sides will shite all over this thread in a bit to prove as much.
Ultimately people in the St George area who don't do/don't want to do private schools want to take control of the area public schools away from the nightmare that is the EBR School Board. Have to be a city to do that...and it all devolves into the usual finger pointing race baiting bullshite from there.
Personally I don't think it passes. The area is filled with too many people who already pay for private school, would never explore the option of moving to a public option no matter what gang of idiots runs it. They aren't going to vote for a new layer of bullshite. They have people telling them their taxes won't change, but those people have absolutely NO BASIS upon which to promise that. They can't make that promise, it isn't theirs to make.
Lots of guys on the side of St George looking to get themselves a new, comfy elected office position in the new city of st george. SCREW THAT. Last thing we need.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:45 am to Tigerpaw123
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its now towing the line of race wars since st george is 95% white
Did you not see that Gardere lane is IN St. George? If St George wanted to keep things "white" they would of excluded that area
This. St. George is 65/25/10 white/black/hispanic. Under 18 population is only 50% white. This isn't some grandiose segregated community.
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