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Just finished The Frozen Hours by Jeff Sahara
Posted on 7/4/17 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 7:12 pm
Fantastic book. I hadn't read him in awhile and this one I absolutely could not put down.
Tells of the Inchon Landings and the subsequent invasion of North Korea and the "Frozen Chosin" Battle where US Army and Marine forces met the Chinese Army.
Told from the perspective of the Marine commander, General Oliver P. Smith, a marine private, Pete Riley and the Chinese commander,
Sung Shi-Lin, this to me is Shaara's finest work.
I Actually got pissed about the ineptitude and sheer arrogance of McArthur and his army commanders as well as the playing to the press during this battle.
The refusal to admit that the Chinese were more than a small force that had crossed the Yalu River and were retreating in the face of contradictory reports from folks on the field was criminal. The ambition to make it to the Yalu River was almost the undoing of the First Marine Division and Army Tenth Corps.
Great book about our troops facing extreme adversity and preserving.
ETA. Damn fingers dont work right
Tells of the Inchon Landings and the subsequent invasion of North Korea and the "Frozen Chosin" Battle where US Army and Marine forces met the Chinese Army.
Told from the perspective of the Marine commander, General Oliver P. Smith, a marine private, Pete Riley and the Chinese commander,
Sung Shi-Lin, this to me is Shaara's finest work.
I Actually got pissed about the ineptitude and sheer arrogance of McArthur and his army commanders as well as the playing to the press during this battle.
The refusal to admit that the Chinese were more than a small force that had crossed the Yalu River and were retreating in the face of contradictory reports from folks on the field was criminal. The ambition to make it to the Yalu River was almost the undoing of the First Marine Division and Army Tenth Corps.
Great book about our troops facing extreme adversity and preserving.
ETA. Damn fingers dont work right
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 7:19 pm
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 1:11 am to LSUCouyon
I really enjoyed his WW1 book - To The Last Man. It was very good.
I've met him a few times, he's a very nice guy.
I want him to do a Cold War book.
I've met him a few times, he's a very nice guy.
I want him to do a Cold War book.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:39 am to TheGooner
I read To the Last Man also.
I enjoy all of his books. I love the way he goes from character to character throughout the story. You hate to leave one sometimes but then the next one becomes just as engaging.
The Frozen Hours is imho his best.
I enjoy all of his books. I love the way he goes from character to character throughout the story. You hate to leave one sometimes but then the next one becomes just as engaging.
The Frozen Hours is imho his best.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 7:45 am to LSUCouyon
I'll be getting it on audible tomorrow when when my new credits drop.
Hopefully Paul Michael is reading this one as well.
Hopefully Paul Michael is reading this one as well.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 10:44 am to LSUCouyon
Got it the day it was released - finished it a little over 3 weeks ago.
I agree that it is a great book. Not sure I would list it as his best (Gods & Generals, Last Full Measure, Rise to Rebellion, and Glorious Cause are tough to beat) but still an amazing piece of work.
My dad was drafted during Korea and was almost sent to the Marines (luckily someone volunteered to fill the final Marine slot and dad ended up 7th Army stationed in Germany). Reading the hell that those guys went through made me thank the man upstairs for that volunteer who kept my dad out of the war zone.
I agree that it is a great book. Not sure I would list it as his best (Gods & Generals, Last Full Measure, Rise to Rebellion, and Glorious Cause are tough to beat) but still an amazing piece of work.
quote:I agree, it sheds a different light on McArthur after all of the hero building from WW2. Almond was also a damn fool and had no place in a command position.
I Actually got pissed about the ineptitude and sheer arrogance of McArthur and his army commanders as well as the playing to the press during this battle. The refusal to admit that the Chinese were more than a small force that had crossed the Yalu River and were retreating in the face of contradictory reports from folks on the field was criminal. The ambition to make it to the Yalu River was almost the undoing of the First Marine Division and Army Tenth Corps.
My dad was drafted during Korea and was almost sent to the Marines (luckily someone volunteered to fill the final Marine slot and dad ended up 7th Army stationed in Germany). Reading the hell that those guys went through made me thank the man upstairs for that volunteer who kept my dad out of the war zone.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 11:37 am to PJinAtl
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The refusal to admit that the Chinese were more than a small force that had crossed the Yalu River
Mac was somewhat notorious in WW2 for announcing prematurely that invaded islands were secured, except for 'mopping up' operations.
Posted on 7/8/17 at 7:29 am to PJinAtl
It was gut wrenching to read about the hardships endured by the troops on both sides.
MacArthur is a controversial figure, part war hero , part self serving egotist. Seems to have placed arse kissers totally awed by his persona in high positions. Almond was truly a wreck.
The drive to the Yalu River was not thought through properly then became a disaster when people in Japan ignored the reports of the massive Chinese presence.
Had the Russians provided them with artillary and air support, Chosin would now be remembered as a massacre that would make Little Big Horn look like a skirmish.
MacArthur is a controversial figure, part war hero , part self serving egotist. Seems to have placed arse kissers totally awed by his persona in high positions. Almond was truly a wreck.
The drive to the Yalu River was not thought through properly then became a disaster when people in Japan ignored the reports of the massive Chinese presence.
Had the Russians provided them with artillary and air support, Chosin would now be remembered as a massacre that would make Little Big Horn look like a skirmish.
This post was edited on 7/8/17 at 7:31 am
Posted on 7/8/17 at 6:31 pm to LSUCouyon
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I Actually got pissed about the ineptitude and sheer arrogance of McArthur and his army commanders as well as the playing to the press during this battle. The refusal to admit that the Chinese were more than a small force that had crossed the Yalu River and were retreating in the face of contradictory reports from folks on the field was criminal. The ambition to make it to the Yalu River was almost the undoing of the First Marine Division and Army Tenth Corps.
If you read about McAthur in any real detail it's almost unanimously accepted that he was an incompetent baffoon. The list of screw-ups he had is a mile long, but he knew how to play to his legend and he got to the point where the US Army couldn't afford hits to his persona so they protected him.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 7:50 am to FootballNostradamus
I haven't really delved into MacArthur in any depth.
Growing up , he was a Great War hero.
Shaara quoted some folks in the book from some of Mac's peers and they weren't complimentary. I intend to read up on him. I want an objective view, not an asskissing worship fest nor a totally politically hit piece.
Any suggestions?
Growing up , he was a Great War hero.
Shaara quoted some folks in the book from some of Mac's peers and they weren't complimentary. I intend to read up on him. I want an objective view, not an asskissing worship fest nor a totally politically hit piece.
Any suggestions?
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