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ATF Form 1 by individual question
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 3/4/19 at 4:41 pm
Its been almost a decade since I got my last NFA item so I'm a bit out of date on a few things.
I'm eyeing a few rifles that are SBR candidates and wanted to know if anyone has done their own Form 1. My understanding and correct me here if wrong, is Louisiana no longer requires registration with the state police.
So with that in mind, other than the usual fingerprints, fill out Form 1, cut check and have the weapon engraved, is there any other steps?
My understanding is we still have to notify the CLEO. What is needed for that and does it have to be the Sheriffs office or city police?
Any issues using Efile? Any pitfalls to avoid when doing efile?
Any advice would be appreciated.
I'm eyeing a few rifles that are SBR candidates and wanted to know if anyone has done their own Form 1. My understanding and correct me here if wrong, is Louisiana no longer requires registration with the state police.
So with that in mind, other than the usual fingerprints, fill out Form 1, cut check and have the weapon engraved, is there any other steps?
My understanding is we still have to notify the CLEO. What is needed for that and does it have to be the Sheriffs office or city police?
Any issues using Efile? Any pitfalls to avoid when doing efile?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 5:01 pm to Kino74
Do efile...sbrs are taking less than a month right now.
If you think you will ever do another NFA item then look into silencer shops setup.
They keep all that stuff in file so it’s dangerously easy to order moare
If you think you will ever do another NFA item then look into silencer shops setup.
They keep all that stuff in file so it’s dangerously easy to order moare
Posted on 3/4/19 at 7:00 pm to NOLAGT
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efile...sbrs are taking less than a month right now.
That's awesome
Posted on 3/5/19 at 12:20 am to Kino74
I just submitted my first Form 1 with Efile and spoke with an ATF rep today who said that it will take less than 30 days for it to be approved. The Efile was extremely easy and the only thing that I had to mail in was my prints. The photo and RPQ (I used a trust) uploaded into the Efile via the website.
All that you have to do to notify a CLEO is send the CLEO copy of the documents and it can go to your local chief of police, local sheriff, your parish DA, state police chief, or state attorney's office.
All that you have to do to notify a CLEO is send the CLEO copy of the documents and it can go to your local chief of police, local sheriff, your parish DA, state police chief, or state attorney's office.
This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 12:21 am
Posted on 3/5/19 at 4:56 am to Dienekes
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I just submitted my first Form 1 with Efile and spoke with an ATF rep today who said that it will take less than 30 days for it to be approved.
Looks like efile definitely way to go.
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All that you have to do to notify a CLEO is send the CLEO copy of the documents and it can go to your local chief of police, local sheriff, your parish DA, state police chief, or state attorney's office.
So they just need a copy of the submitted Form 1. Alrighty.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 7:43 am to Dienekes
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I just submitted my first Form 1 with Efile and spoke with an ATF rep today who said that it will take less than 30 days for it to be approved
And that's why I want to go ahead and build a suppressor instead of buy one. 1 month v 1 year.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:02 am to DeoreDX
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And that's why I want to go ahead and build a suppressor instead of buy one. 1 month v 1 year.
what's the difference?
Posted on 3/5/19 at 8:44 am to finchmeister08
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what's the difference?
Form 4 can't be done on EFile is the hold up.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:01 am to DeoreDX
I been giving that some thought for that very reason. I’d be more willing to slap a can on a few rifles with only having to wait a little bit and cheaper DIY cans.
Where would you buy the stuff to build or have built? I came across some web forum dedicated to it but the name slips my mind at the moment.
Where would you buy the stuff to build or have built? I came across some web forum dedicated to it but the name slips my mind at the moment.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 9:35 am to NOLAGT
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? I came across some web forum dedicated to it but the name slips my mind at the moment.
Was it weaponeer.net?
Posted on 3/5/19 at 1:19 pm to Kino74
what are you guys using to engrave all the information on your SBR/silencers?
Posted on 3/5/19 at 2:09 pm to finchmeister08
Call around to your local gun shops and they should be able to give you some info for somebody local that can do it professionally and make it look good. If you don't care how it looks and you've got the equipment, a simple Dremel will do the trick.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 10:24 pm to Dienekes
What’s the best path for this? I’ve considered getting my feet wet with NFA stuff. Possibly a homemade silencer to start. Would I be better off establishing a trust or just doing each item individually.
Posted on 3/5/19 at 10:47 pm to Dienekes
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If you don't care how it looks and you've got the equipment, a simple Dremel will do the trick.
There are statutory requirements as to size and depth. I don’t think a Dremel job is going to fly.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 5:13 am to finchmeister08
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Possibly a homemade silencer to start.
For a first one, I'd buy a good quality suppressor and learn the ends and outs of it before doing a homemade one. That's just how I approach anything I'm new to.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:21 am to jbgleason
As long as you can get the depth to be 0.003 of an inch it will be fine. It'll look like arse but it will be fine. There are of examples on sites like AR15.com in their NFA forums where guys had used home made presses and dremels to engrave their lowers. Again they look like hell but they pass the standard.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:32 am to finchmeister08
Honestly I'd use a trust for all NFA items. It makes it easier to transfer to family members if anything ever happens to you.
Take for instance, you file the NFA item as an individual and (god forbid) you get in an accident or die and you want to pass the NFA items to another family member they will have to jump through all kinds of legal hoops to get them. If you file as a trust and place whoever you want as a co-trustee or beneficiary it makes it a 1000x's easier to get those items transferred to them.
The only thing is that you and any co-trustees have to fill out the RPQ, send in prints, and a photo for every purchase. Beneficiaries don't have to send any of the aforementioned items in unless they take ownership of the NFA items.
Like the other poster said, I'd purchase a suppressor from a company or SBR a rifle that you already have just to get used to the process first.
Hopefully this helps and please do a ton of research first before making any purchases just to make sure you don't screw up and commit any crimes.
Good luck with he process!!
Take for instance, you file the NFA item as an individual and (god forbid) you get in an accident or die and you want to pass the NFA items to another family member they will have to jump through all kinds of legal hoops to get them. If you file as a trust and place whoever you want as a co-trustee or beneficiary it makes it a 1000x's easier to get those items transferred to them.
The only thing is that you and any co-trustees have to fill out the RPQ, send in prints, and a photo for every purchase. Beneficiaries don't have to send any of the aforementioned items in unless they take ownership of the NFA items.
Like the other poster said, I'd purchase a suppressor from a company or SBR a rifle that you already have just to get used to the process first.
Hopefully this helps and please do a ton of research first before making any purchases just to make sure you don't screw up and commit any crimes.
Good luck with he process!!
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:41 am to Dienekes
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Take for instance, you file the NFA item as an individual and (god forbid) you get in an accident or die and you want to pass the NFA items to another family member they will have to jump through all kinds of legal hoops to get them. If you file as a trust and place whoever you want as a co-trustee or beneficiary it makes it a 1000x's easier to get those items transferred to them.
This just isn’t true at all. The process for a TAX EXEMPT transfer to an heir is a simple one form process. Post 41F changes even allow the heir or executor to legally possess the items while the estate is settled and the forms are processed.
The only good reason for a Trust these days is for multiple people to be able to possess the NFA items independently. For instance, you and your buddy want to be able to take a silencer hog hunting without the primary registered owner present.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:23 am to jbgleason
who here has made the maglite suppressor?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:55 am to Dienekes
quote:Do you need finger prints, etc. from anyone you add?
Take for instance, you file the NFA item as an individual and (god forbid) you get in an accident or die and you want to pass the NFA items to another family member they will have to jump through all kinds of legal hoops to get them. If you file as a trust and place whoever you want as a co-trustee or beneficiary it makes it a 1000x's easier to get those items transferred to them.
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