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My league is considering dropping defense

Posted on 8/1/19 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Geauxt1499
Washington DC
Member since Jan 2013
351 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 1:33 pm
and adding another flex spot in its place. Has anyone done this? Opinions on how it’s worked out?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48255 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 1:37 pm to
TDFL drop both Kicker and D/ST, and added an additional flex spot

QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
TE
Flex
Flex

Not much left on the WW with nothing but position players all scooped up by everyone in the draft.

There are a few early season gets on breakout players, but slim after those have been snagged.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6641 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 1:45 pm to
We replace team def with 2 IDP players one year.

I liked it a lot more but the rest of the league voted to go back to team def
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
3022 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 2:17 pm to
Yup. 2 flex. No k or d. Like it a lot better.
Posted by bleedpurplengold
Member since Feb 2007
1406 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:34 pm to
We dropped kicker. First year we added another flex, but went back to normal the next with still no kicker
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162426 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 7:37 pm to
frick team D
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30814 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 8:21 pm to
Dynasty league I’m in has no TE, D, or K. 3 flex spots and only 5 bench. Fun setup.
Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
4688 posts
Posted on 8/1/19 at 10:49 pm to
We dropped kickers 2-3 years ago and added a flex. just dropped defenses this year.

It’s nice not having to give any thought to kicker or defenses.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31211 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:34 am to
I actually enjoy having a kicker and defense, since I stream them every week. The rest of your lineup is generally pretty set, so it’s nice having to make a couple more meaningful transactions.

There’s definitely logic in streaming both positions. It’s definitely not just random, but it’s obviously prone to more variance.
Posted by Tiger inTampa
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2009
2171 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:48 am to
i have not been in a league without defense but we went to IDP from team defenses. Fun. Created more interest and draft strategies.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33018 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 7:53 am to
Kicker and defense can add value if you put in effort on them. Defense especially takes a lot of thought and planning if you want to add value through that spot
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25424 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:16 am to
Is it really a dynasty league if you only have 5 bench? You don't have any room to hold talented rookies to wait for them to develop.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25424 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:23 am to
1-12 ranked kickers typically have about a point or less differences in average score per game. The only trick to defense is reading the trend of what defense is hot at the beginning of the season that's on free agency (and there's always at least one) and moving quick on them. Then when it gets a couple of weeks before playoffs look at matchups for the final stretch.

I prefer my leagues that don't use defense or kickers.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162426 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 8:46 am to
D may have some strategy but there really isn’t one for kickers no matter how much people try to say. It’s completely random
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31211 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 10:37 am to
It’s not completely random. Home favorites score more points.

Going for higher Vegas game totals. Stream your kickers, unless you work your way into a super high-powered offense. It works for me, and I have tracked my kicker and defense. It’s definitely not random.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34922 posts
Posted on 8/2/19 at 11:33 am to
quote:

there really isn’t one for kickers no matter how much people try to say. It’s completely random


I don’t have any statistical data to back up my opinion or anything, but this has to be wrong.. at least partially
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162426 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 12:34 pm to
You can increase your odds of a kicker performing well by choosing certain favorable conditions....it’s still largely random
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31211 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 3:17 pm to
That’s fine. I think we disagree on this. There’s variance to this, but there’s also variance when streaming tight ends. I don’t think it’s so unpredictable.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162426 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 1:35 pm to
I think the difference between the top K overall vs the 20th is around a 1.5 points per game.

So you basically have guys in your league who draft a guy on a decent offense, set him and forget him or guys that try to play the weekly guessing game of streaming the K. Either way fantasy match ups are very rarely decided by the kicking match up. I just don't think they add enough value to the game to waste time on.

at least with streaming tight ends there are match up factors, expected weekly passing volume, etc things you can look at to make an educated guess on. A kicker's production is largely out his hands.

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