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'Quid pro quo': Bernie Sanders wants to end 'carte blanche' aid to Israel

Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:23 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:23 am
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"We have a right to say to the Israeli government that the United States of America and our taxpayers and our people believe in human rights, we believe in democracy, we will not accept authoritarianism or racism," the Vermont independent said Monday at the national J Street conference. "And we demand the Israeli government sit down with the Palestinian people and negotiate an agreement that works for all parties."

"I would use the leverage. $3.8 billion is a lot of money, and we cannot give it carte blanche to the Israeli government or for that matter to any government at all. We have a right to demand respect for human rights and democracy," he said.


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Posted by Tridentds
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:25 am to
I don't think I have ever pulled for heart trouble before... but... I am currently rethinking my stance on this.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:25 am to
Is this just targeting Israel or does he want to end foreign aid altogether?
Posted by Zanzibaw
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:25 am to
"Quid pro quo, douchebag"

-Leslie Chao
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:26 am to
I can do without all the rhetoric, but I'm definitely on board ending all aid.
Posted by Tridentds
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:28 am to
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but I'm definitely on board ending all aid.


Count me in on this. If you don't end all of it then you have an ongoing problem.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:28 am to
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believe in human rights, we believe in democracy, we will not accept authoritarianism or racism


So you’re against Palestine

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And we demand the Israeli government sit down with the Palestinian people and negotiate an agreement that works for all parties."


Palestine does not want this

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respect for human rights and democracy,"


Palestine does not want this.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:29 am to
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but I'm definitely on board ending all aid.


Same. But somehow I don't believe that Bernie is proposing that, despite where he talks about how much money we're giving away. His problem isn't with the amount, but with the recipient.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:29 am to
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I can do without all the rhetoric, but I'm definitely on board ending all aid.




I agree. But I'm troubled (not really) by Bernie's desire to leverage foreign aid to achieve one of his policy goals.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:29 am to
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"I would use the leverage.

Soo.....the same thing they want Trump impeached for?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:30 am to
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Soo.....the same thing they want Trump impeached for?


Exactly.

ETA: in the current iteration of IM PEACH PHO TEE PHI.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 10:31 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:30 am to
Great idea!
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:31 am to
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Great idea!


Don't miss the point.
Posted by Friscodog
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:36 am to
Sorry, I'm not Jewish, but how dare he claim to be Jewish when he says crap like this.


Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:38 am to
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$3.8 billion is a lot of money, and we cannot give it carte blanche to the Israeli government or for that matter to any government at all.


For once he makes sense. You can't buy friends or rent them for that matter. And besides we're borrowing it in the first place.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
139738 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:39 am to
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Sorry, I'm not Jewish, but how dare he claim to be Jewish when he says crap like this.



This is a secondary point to this article. The primary point is the hypocrisy of the quid pro quo part.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:40 am to
Self hating jew
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:48 am to
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"I would use the leverage. $3.8 billion is a lot of money, and we cannot give it carte blanche to the Israeli government or for that matter to any government at all. We have a right to demand respect for human rights and democracy," he said.


So it’s ok for Bernie to do it, but by gawd we will impeach that orange bastard for daring to do the same (even though he didn’t).


Burn in hell Bernie, you commie cock sucking piece of shite.
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:53 am to
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Bernie Sanders wants to end 'carte blanche' aid to Israel
Well considering it’s the Presidents responsibility to dictate foreign policy that would be within his authority.

Quid pro quo is the definition of foreign policy. Basically it’s we will give you money or something else BUT IN RETURN you must do x.

Unless your Trump then your foreign policy MUST BE APPROVED by the Dems.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:54 am to
So he agrees with Trump on Iran
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