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A quick scoring offense ALWAYS makes your defense less effective.

Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:45 am
Posted by Yeahright
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:45 am
Aranda has done a great job this year considering how quick this LSU offense is scoring. The defense doesn't even have time to catch their breath. This has been an unprecedented year for LSU and Aranda. Very few defensive coaches can/are prepared for their defense to be on the field as much as LSU has this year. When LSU is healthy they are a top 15 defense easily. They are healthy now and will represent but Hurts will still score a lot. I'm not concerned.
Posted by AnotherRound
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:47 am to
yeahright
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176159 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:47 am to
Funny that the quick 3 and out offenses under Les didn't make the defense play poorly.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:49 am to
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Funny that the quick 3 and out offenses under Les didn't make the defense play poorly.



because 3 plays and a punt took longer than a sub 2 minute scoring drive does.

Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
2918 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Funny that the quick 3 and out offenses under Les didn't make the defense play poorly.



yep, I'd rather the 3 or 4 plays when you add on 7 pts, not just yards to field position.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:50 am to


up UNTIL the arky game

the TOP for the offense and D was basically equal. The D was on the field for less plays than the year before at that point in time as well. Now it MAY have been thrown off a bit after arky and TAMu and UGA but saying our O wore out the D all year is utter BS and been debunked.
Posted by beauchristopher
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:50 am to
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This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 3:20 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:53 am to
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but saying our O wore out the D all year is utter BS and been debunked.


Correct

In some games we were giving up chunks of yards on the opening drive. Can't blame that on the offense
Posted by JohnnyBgood
South Louisiana
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:54 am to
I’ll take a quick scoring offense over the infamous run, run, pass, punt routine.
Posted by gmoney1237
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2018
65 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 10:55 am to
There is a difference mentally on defense when you know you HAVE to stop the other team to have a chance to win and knowing your offense will put up 40+ every game. I think they finally individually got a chip on their shoulders the last few games and played great every play to prove doubters wrong. They also made plays when they had to have a stop in the earlier games. I have complete confidence they will be playing at an elite level the next 2 games.
This post was edited on 12/24/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10346 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Aranda has done a great job this year considering how quick this LSU offense is scoring. The defense doesn't even have time to catch their breath. This has been an unprecedented year for LSU and Aranda. Very few defensive coaches can/are prepared for their defense to be on the field as much as LSU has this year. When LSU is healthy they are a top 15 defense easily. They are healthy now and will represent but Hurts will still score a lot. I'm not concerned


some truth to this BUT...
how about all of the games where both teams go 3/out?
they stay in the field even more ...

other teams caught up during the second half when we ceased to be aggressive...
were we ahead so Aranda relaxed?
did we start playing to not lose rather than win?

it seems as our D slowed down play in the 2nd halves.
except the last 2 games...
OLE MISS lit a fire.
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 11:23 am to
Clemson had an elite offense and defense last year
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
105555 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 11:29 am to
According to this site LSU was #63 at 30:08 this year in time of possession while it was 32:23 last year.

teamrankings.com
Posted by I20goon
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/24/19 at 11:29 am to
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A quick scoring offense ALWAYS makes your defense less effective
Assuming this is true, and I agree, the issue is there's 3 ways this happens. When you say this statement people assume you are talking about fatigue. Faitigue isn't always the reason.

The 3 ways in which a quick (or even consistent) scoring O hurts the D:

1. Fatigue
2. Give the opponent more opportunities and the law of averages takes over.
3. Laying off due to leads.

The thing is, they are indiscernible because each of those 3 affects the others and any combination can be in play at a given time.

Did they lay off because of a lead and then the opponent O gets a long scoring drive thereby causing the fatigue?

There is no clear-cut cause-effect.

Posted by StreetDiction
Austin
Member since Dec 2009
3973 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 11:31 am to
I think other teams played to our level some in past years too. Now they play with desperation. They probably go for it more on 4th downs and take more chances on 3rd downs. In previous years, they probably played more of a field position game because our offense wasn’t that great.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14895 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Funny that the quick 3 and out offenses under Les didn't make the defense play poorly.


Funny how you don’t understand that play calling changes for a team when they are stopping your offense effectively versus when they are not.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14895 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Assuming this is true, and I agree, the issue is there's 3 ways this happens. When you say this statement people assume you are talking about fatigue. Faitigue isn't always the reason. The 3 ways in which a quick (or even consistent) scoring O hurts the D: 1. Fatigue 2. Give the opponent more opportunities and the law of averages takes over. 3. Laying off due to leads. The thing is, they are indiscernible because each of those 3 affects the others and any combination can be in play at a given time. Did they lay off because of a lead and then the opponent O gets a long scoring drive thereby causing the fatigue? There is no clear-cut cause-effect.


You left off a reason why opponents tend to score more when you have an offense that they struggle to stop. Your opponents take more risks because they know they must put points on the board. They utilize more “high risk/high reward” play calling.
Posted by studentsect
Member since Jan 2004
2295 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:20 pm to
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You left off a reason why opponents tend to score more when you have an offense that they struggle to stop. Your opponents take more risks because they know they must put points on the board. They utilize more “high risk/high reward” play calling.


Exactly. It is very hard to stop a decent offense that is trailing by 2-3 possessions...LSU and UGA defenses had very similar stats against good teams, both were basically lights out when tied or trailing and gave up points when up a couple of scores...it’s just that LSU spent a hell of a lot more time with big leads.
Posted by coachw
Member since Jun 2017
1872 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:34 pm to
Please!!! More Aranda apologists. Truth is, this guy is over paid and under achieves. Mediocre at BEST. Hope he does leave.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9182 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:39 pm to
This is a myth. The D has played pretty much the same number of plays as they did in previous years.

Our issue has been the number of big plays we have given up.
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