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Should Southerners get reparations

Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57328 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:23 pm
Supposed your family was a Union loyalist during the War Between the States. You didn't have a vote on secession. Your sons never fought and you didn't support the war.

BUT when the North comes through, Government agents/troops burn down your farm and home while taking your horses and livestock, making you completely destitute. There is no aid or food stamps back then.

How is that not an improper taking under the 5th amendment? Shouldn't regular citizens whose property was destroyed or taken by the Union be entitled to 5th amendment compensation?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:24 pm to
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How is that not an improper taking under the 5th amendment?


Are you protected by the US constitution when you are not a state of the US?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88721 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:24 pm to
No reparations for anyone that wasn't alive at the time.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:25 pm to
Claim your mule at the nearest DMV.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56593 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:26 pm to
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Are you protected by the US constitution when you are not a state of the US?



Considering that the United States considered the rebellious states as just that, rather than an independent nation, yes.

Why else would the Emancipation Proclamation be applied to the states in question?
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10648 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:27 pm to
No. Nobody affected by the civil war is alive today. Any problem or disadvantage that you have today (white or black) can be directly traced back to a decision that you made. Maybe the decision was influenced by how you were raised, but nevertheless you made a conscious decision to end up where you are currently at
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19478 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:27 pm to
Too many words to think about here.

quick answer is no
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171959 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:27 pm to
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Shouldn't regular citizens whose property was destroyed or taken by the Union be entitled to 5th amendment compensation?


So a bunch of dead people?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21720 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:28 pm to
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BUT when the North comes through, Government agents/troops burn down your farm and home while taking your horses and livestock, making you completely destitute. There is no aid or food stamps back then.


Actually this happened to my family.

I have letters between my ancestor and Sherman's army command for reimbursement of items taken from the family farm during the course of the war, which included wood, pigs, crops, etc.

Granted it took the govt 4 years to actually reimburse my family but they were paid back with a full itemization and unit prices for each.

CSB I know.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Considering that the United States considered the rebellious states as just that, rather than an independent nation, yes.

Why else would the Emancipation Proclamation be applied to the states in question?



Good point.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:29 pm to
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How is that not an improper taking under the 5th amendment? Shouldn't regular citizens whose property was destroyed or taken by the Union be entitled to 5th amendment compensation?


Because you can't secede from the US and its constitution, then try to invoke the constitution when you start losing the resulting war.

It's like wondering why Confederate soldiers couldn't claim 8th Amendment protections from cruel and unusual punishment by Union soldiers.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56593 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:30 pm to
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Nobody affected by the civil war is alive today.


Now that's just silly. We are all a product of history to a large extent.

OP's premise is also silly, but to suggest that your life has not been affected by TWBTS is naive.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:30 pm to
My great grandparents were Sicilian immigrants who were segregated by society and lived in the projects. I can have some free stuff?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
137056 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:31 pm to
If you lived during the civil war and or have been an active slave from the days before the civil war ended and are still alive, you should get something.

All others, no. Giving money to 5 generations removed relatives is basically welfare.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148789 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:31 pm to
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. Any problem or disadvantage that you have today (white or black) can be directly traced back to a decision that you made. Maybe the decision was influenced by how you were raised, but nevertheless you made a conscious decision to end up where you are currently at
your a-hole AIDS is a direct consequence of your gay decisions
Posted by HurricaneTiger
Coral Gables, FL
Member since Jan 2014
3166 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:31 pm to
Huh, that’s neat.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12514 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:32 pm to
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Are you protected by the US constitution when you are not a state of the US?

the Federal government never recognized succession, so....
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2644 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Claim your mule at the nearest DMV.


Where do I go for my 40 acres.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56593 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:35 pm to
Talk to the BLM before BLM gets to them.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Any problem or disadvantage that you have today (white or black) can be directly traced back to a decision that you made.

This is so ignorant.
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