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Nursing homes "shocked" at massively incorrect Covid-19 data
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:30 pm
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Nursing Homes Shocked at 'Insanely Wrong' CMS Data on COVID-19
One facility supposedly had eight coronavirus deaths for each bed
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When the administrator of the Saugus Rehab and Nursing Center in Saugus, Massachusetts, heard that a new Medicare website reported her facility had 794 confirmed cases of COVID-19 -- the second highest in the country -- and 281 cases among staff, she gasped.
"Oh my God. Where are they getting those numbers from?" said Josephine Ajayi. "That doesn't make any sense."
Those weren't the numbers that her facility reported to the CDC's National Healthcare Safety Network, under new rules from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), she said.
Ajayi said her 80-bed facility actually reported 45 residents have tested positive and five residents died, although the CMS website showed no Saugus deaths. About 19 staff members tested positive for the virus, and most have returned to work, she said.
Officials at skilled nursing facilities around the country said Monday they were shocked to see their data reported inaccurately -- wildly so in some cases, as at the Saugus home -- on the new CMS public website launched Thursday. The numbers are scaring families, harming their reputations, and in some cases are physically impossible, given the number of beds or staff in their facilities, they said.
CMS approved an interim final rule May 1 requiring more than 15,000 nursing homes receiving Medicare or Medicaid reimbursement to report COVID data by May 31, and weekly going forward.
The data fill 56 columns detailing COVID-19 infected residents, staff, testing, and equipment, going back to at least May 1. As of Thursday, CMS said 88% of the nursing homes in the country had reported. Going forward after a grace period ended June 7, they risk fines of $1,000 and up for every week they fail to update their data.
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But in many cases, nursing home officials said their data were somehow scrambled, either because nursing home personnel reported in the wrong columns, or the numbers were loaded incorrectly somewhere between the CDC and CMS.
For example, Southern Pointe Living Center in Colbert, Oklahoma, with 95 beds, was reported to have had 339 residents die of COVID-19, yet no confirmed or suspected cases.
"We have not lost anyone nor have we had a [COVID-19] case in the building," said a woman identifying herself as an assistant at Southern Pointe but who declined to give her full name. The day after CMS released the data, on Friday, she said someone from the CDC called the facility to ask if their numbers were correct as reported, "and we told them no."
She added, "I don't know how that happened but that is an error on their end." As of Tuesday morning, the posted data had not been corrected.
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After a download of the data, a quick sort of the columns easily reveals extreme totals in various categories. But no one called those nursing homes before the data were released to doublecheck, for example, when 100-bed Smith Village in Chicago was shown to have 1,105 confirmed COVID-19 cases among residents and 955 confirmed COVID-19 cases among staff, the most in the country.
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Paula Sanders, an attorney in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, who represents some 200 skilled nursing facilities, said many of her clients "can't figure out where these numbers are coming from" and have been "frustrated" in trying to get them corrected since Thursday.
"This has destroyed the trust between the facilities and the families, because they've been reporting and telling the families, these are our numbers," Sanders said. "Then these numbers come out and don't make any sense at all. Unfortunately, some families are going to believe the government over the facilities."
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:32 pm to goofball
And so the unraveling of another liberal lie begins.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:34 pm to goofball
The worst data “errors” will be found in Pennsylvania, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Maryland and Michigan.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:34 pm to goofball
Félix Gallardo called his boys and had them add a 0 to the end of all the tallies.
eta: Election fraud reference from Narcos: Mexico for those who don’t get it.
eta: Election fraud reference from Narcos: Mexico for those who don’t get it.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:35 pm to goofball
Some cases are asymptomatic so those numbers could still be correct.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:37 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Some cases are asymptomatic so those numbers could still be correct.
No. A 100 bed facility won’t have 900 different residents in two years.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:38 pm to goofball
You'll soon find that the big cities in Texas are cooking the books as well.
The CDC has been compromised.
The CDC has been compromised.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:38 pm to OysterPoBoy
They’re requiring testing weekly now if I understood correctly. Those residents where I colsult who have tested negative have been tested weekly for the past two weeks as have all employees.
So asymptomatics are being caught at my facility.
(That said I still think numbers in general are cooked)
So asymptomatics are being caught at my facility.
(That said I still think numbers in general are cooked)
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:41 pm to goofball
Are these the folks that will be in charge of voting data and tabulations?
What about their involvement in ALL of govt. health data? I mean, they'll run the US National Healthcare with this same zeal and efficiency once it's implemented. Right?
What about their involvement in ALL of govt. health data? I mean, they'll run the US National Healthcare with this same zeal and efficiency once it's implemented. Right?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:43 pm to the808bass
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The worst data “errors” will be found in Pennsylvania, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Maryland and Michigan.
If nursing homes are somehow over reporting to boost their medicaid/medicare reimbursements, I hope to hell we come down on them like a ton of bricks.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:43 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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You'll soon find that the big cities in Texas are cooking the books as well.
Link?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:44 pm to goofball
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nursing homes are somehow over reporting
That’s not what the story said.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:46 pm to the808bass
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That’s not what the story said.
No - that's my speculation. The article seems to indicate that the nursing homes are shocked at these numbers.
So it's likely that someone in government is inflating them.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:49 pm to goofball
So, a lot of people are NOT dying in nursing homes?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:50 pm to BobLouder
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So, a lot of people are NOT dying in nursing homes?
Looks like they are just adding deaths and infections to the list (facilities with only 100 patient rooms reporting 200-300 deaths).
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:51 pm to BobLouder
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So, a lot of people are NOT dying in nursing homes?
Comparatively, more are dying in nursing homes.
I suspect the numbers have been manipulated.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 6:15 pm to goofball
This news broke almost two weeks ago - with the release of the CDC/CMS data on Nursing Home COVID cases and deaths.
No wonder we haven't seen much of Fauci and Birx
No wonder we haven't seen much of Fauci and Birx
Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:12 pm to goofball
I read somewhere not long ago that they count the number of positive tests, not the number of positive people. When a person is positive, they are continually tested while under treatment until they test negative or cured or whatever. So one positive patient might generate a half-dozen or more positive tests. 
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