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538 Shifts to Harris

Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:20 am
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:20 am
Trump has been around a five point favorite for the past week or so. 538 was actually the most pro-trump poll analyzer in 2016

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Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24763 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:22 am to
Was still vastly wrong in 2016 too
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
36242 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:24 am to
It’s been basically 50-50 for a month. Same as silver’s.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76700 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:25 am to
quote:

was actually the most pro-trump poll analyzer in 2016
538 was never pro-Trump.

It was bought from Nate Silver years ago.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:25 am to
538 was the NYT aggregate that gave Clinton the 95% chance to win

They separated from the NYT after that election
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
3649 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:27 am to
Not sure why so many people don't realize that 50-50 is basically a 4 or 5 point shift towards Trump. That means blue states are probably going to be more red, and that swing states are not going to be as close as last time.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20724 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:28 am to
“Shifts to Harris”

It’s 50-49-1 for Harris.

That’s as dead even as possible.

I have to think Kamala didn’t inspire any new voters and moderates who care about the economy, immigration, and foreign policy shifted to Trump.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10003 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:28 am to
Dafaq is a simulation going to do? We get to the polls like we did in 2020 we win. It is that simple.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:31 am to
Make no mistake, I am not calling the 538 model biased or partisan. . .it is just a model, and can only produce results based on the data input.

Polls are not great data, really, so an aggregate of polls are only a relevant datapoint. . .as opposed to THE data point

They are like betting lines in sports. They can tell you who the consensus says is going to win. . .but the game still has to be played
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10813 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:31 am to
Polls are always BS. Have any of yall been polled this year? I dont know anybody that has. I remember one poll(I think Monmouth) called me one time years ago. I participated. After that they kept calling me over and over(I hung up on them).

They know who they are calling and how to manipulate their polls. If the polls all showed Trump up, there would be no cover for any shenanigans. Dont worry about these polls

Rush Limbaugh had a great comment back after 2016. Trump didnt "come from behind" to win. He was always winning, the polls were just wrong
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 7:34 am
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5067 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:36 am to
quote:

538 was the NYT aggregate that gave Clinton the 95% chance to win They separated from the NYT after that election


538’s final forecast gave trump a 29% chance to win in 2016, which was way, way higher than anyone else

LINK
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
3649 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:40 am to
Countless talking heads and pollsters have said Kamala needed at least a 2+ percent popular vote win to have a chance at the EC. Outside of a few outliers, they either have Trump ahead, tied, or slight Kamala lead. Biden won by 5 million votes, but really it came down to about 40,000 votes in a few swing states.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31200 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:40 am to
Trump has a hidden vote and always has. If it’s 50/50, it’s really 52-48
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
76147 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Dafaq is a simulation going to do?

It's like when they would play the game 10k times on NCAA 14 and say that's how the CFP title game would go.
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