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re: Lamar jackson
Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:13 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:13 pm to GynoSandberg
Huh bra.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:39 pm to GatorPA84
I'm benching Lamar this week, but only because I also have Stafford going against Oakland, which I consider a top tier alternative.
Like Gyn said, the Pats look scarier than they are with that baby soft schedule. Lamar will probably be a safe play, just not sure how high his upside is this week. It will definitely be interesting to watch this match-up
Like Gyn said, the Pats look scarier than they are with that baby soft schedule. Lamar will probably be a safe play, just not sure how high his upside is this week. It will definitely be interesting to watch this match-up
Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:49 pm to Gtothemoney
Ravens
No. 1 points
No. 1 rushing offense
No. 2 total offense
On pace for most rushing yards ever
Let’s strap up and see who wins the battle GiGi
No. 1 points
No. 1 rushing offense
No. 2 total offense
On pace for most rushing yards ever
Let’s strap up and see who wins the battle GiGi
Posted on 10/30/19 at 4:15 pm to GynoSandberg
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Sometimes ya gotta just trust the tape, it doesn't lie.
This is true.
Ugh. Now you've made me reconsider starting Minshew, and I was all set to go for it.
frick you AND your logic, Gyno.
EDIT - Just wanted to say that I checked the Footballers and CBS week 9 rankings, and they all have Minshew and Lamar back to back in their rankings.
So, my logic is not as crazy and you made me feel it was.
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:22 pm to Wanderin Reb
I’m not trying to convince you otherwise. Like I said Minshew is a poor mans Jackson in a way
I own Jackson in 2/3 leagues, full disclosure. I do not even have a backup now that his bye has passed. So ya minshew or Stafford over him makes me gag a bit despite their matchups bc even owning them is perplexing to me. It ain’t like they’re full proof even vs bad teams.
I own Jackson in 2/3 leagues, full disclosure. I do not even have a backup now that his bye has passed. So ya minshew or Stafford over him makes me gag a bit despite their matchups bc even owning them is perplexing to me. It ain’t like they’re full proof even vs bad teams.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:41 pm to GynoSandberg
Stafford has been pretty money this year. Only 3 weeks less than 20 pts in 6PPTD leagues. Every other week has been more than 30. Don't let last year fool you. And now they dont even have the mirage of a run game to lean on, so he is unleashed again.
Minshew has been above 20 in every week except 2. One of those was 19, the other was an abysmal 4 points but against the Saints.
Jackson has been fantastic, but starting one of these two in great matchups over him in a bad matchup isn't insane.
I'm in the same boat as you. I have a ton of shares of Lamar. Minshew was my bye week fill-in in two leagues, so I haven't dropped him yet. This week, and this week only, it might just be the smart play.
Minshew has been above 20 in every week except 2. One of those was 19, the other was an abysmal 4 points but against the Saints.
Jackson has been fantastic, but starting one of these two in great matchups over him in a bad matchup isn't insane.
I'm in the same boat as you. I have a ton of shares of Lamar. Minshew was my bye week fill-in in two leagues, so I haven't dropped him yet. This week, and this week only, it might just be the smart play.
Posted on 10/31/19 at 9:47 am to Wanderin Reb
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Stafford has been pretty money this year. Only 3 weeks less than 20 pts in 6PPTD leagues. Every other week has been more than 30. Don't let last year fool you. And now they dont even have the mirage of a run game to lean on, so he is unleashed again.
This. 4 of 7 weeks he threw 3+ TDs. He's QB9 on the year, including a bye week. Oakland is ranked 31st against opposing QBs. They no longer have a feature back, so he's gonna sling it 30+ times at least. Think he's a probably a top 5 QB this week.
But most people with Lamar probably don't have that juicy of an alternative, so I wouldn't be scrambling to replace him against the Pats. He's already shown he can have 1 or less TDs and still be a decent play
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:10 am to GynoSandberg
Stafford is 7th in QB PPG on the year. He should be owned in every league. He has 3 below average games out of 7. Which is comparable to almost every other QB in the top 10 in scoring
Posted on 10/31/19 at 10:38 am to Upperdecker
Ya aren’t following bubba but you also roster 2 defenses
I don’t have a problem with Stafford or minshew
I don’t have a problem with Stafford or minshew
Posted on 10/31/19 at 11:46 am to GynoSandberg
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So ya minshew or Stafford over him makes me gag a bit despite their matchups bc even owning them is perplexing to me
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I don’t have a problem with Stafford or minshew
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Ya aren’t following bubba but you also roster 2 defense
If you wanna do stuff like this I can play that game too though
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:24 pm to Upperdecker
Jackson is QB3 and has the most QB1 finishes at the position. His bye week just passed. Owning a backup is perplexing and Then even considering anyone but Mahomes russ Watson over him makes me gag. You got two QBs and now they’re gonna lull you into week to week QB dilemma that should not exist.
If you want to consider the players
Stafford “only” had 3 bad games out of 7
so almost half his games. Idgaf if it’s comparable to other top 10 QBs, we aren’t talking top 10 QBs when ya got the QB3 and the most consistent finisher at the position! Oh he’s top 7 in PPG? PPG is a dumb stat and he’s the walking example. Score 37 and 34 and turn around with 14 and 11 burgers. Tell me about his week to week consistency. Yes his lack of run game in encouraging for his fantasy prospects, and he does have a good matchup. It does not erase his history of inconsistencies
Now Minshew goes across the pond with a matchup where the teams have scored a combined 27, 23, and 25 points in the three meetings they’ve had with Deshaun Watson as the starting quarterback. Most of the data goes out the window in London games already
I would ask, would anyone bet that Stafford or minshew outscore jackson? Like real money. Answer is probably no. Then why would ya start them?
If you want to consider the players
Stafford “only” had 3 bad games out of 7
Now Minshew goes across the pond with a matchup where the teams have scored a combined 27, 23, and 25 points in the three meetings they’ve had with Deshaun Watson as the starting quarterback. Most of the data goes out the window in London games already
I would ask, would anyone bet that Stafford or minshew outscore jackson? Like real money. Answer is probably no. Then why would ya start them?
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:32 pm to GynoSandberg
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Owning a backup is perplexing
Depends on roster size. My league is a 12 team with 16 man rosters, so the waiver wire is barren. Sometimes it's just better to roster a good QB or extra defense in anticipation for future byes, better matchups, etc. rather than roster some middling wr/rb that will never do anything.
Also, Jackson just came off his bye, so anybody that owns him has a 2nd QB on their roster to get thru that, then probably saw that Pats D match-up and considered holding onto the other QB one more week.
Lastly, Lamar runs the most out of any QB and he's only 6'2" 212#, so he could easily get hurt any given week. Not a terrible idea to keep some insurance. I'm not saying to keep a Tannehill rostered, but if you've got another top 10 guy, then yeah why not? We're approaching playoffs when it's more important to start rostering your handcuffs and insuring yourself for disaster
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:39 pm to Neauxla_Tiger
I get it, every league is different. There’s some hyperbole there on my part
Posted on 10/31/19 at 1:59 pm to GynoSandberg
Most people would have owned a backup from the bye week, so that’s a good reason in itself. Maybe they drop him to waivers, but anyone saving a waiver would still have him. Jackson is also rushing 10+ times a game, so he’s a huge injury risk. Running QBs get injured. Having a solid backup better than waiver wire riff raff is a good investment when there’s a serious injury risk
I didn’t say Stafford had 3 bad games. I said below average for starting QBs. That’s below about 20 points. He’s had 3/7 games below 20 pts. Of the top 12 QBs in PPG scoring, only 2 QBs have had less than 3 below average games. Lamar and Dak. Dak also put up a massive 7 pt stinker in one game, while most of the QBs have a low around 10-12. His consistency is average or above for starting QBs, as several of the top 12 have more than 3 games below average. And Lamar has had the easiest SOS so far of the top 12 QBs by PPG outside of Brady
Minshew I don’t agree with starting over Lamar or even considering, though the argument there is the Jags travel well to London lately and the Texans defense hasn’t been great past few weeks
I didn’t say Stafford had 3 bad games. I said below average for starting QBs. That’s below about 20 points. He’s had 3/7 games below 20 pts. Of the top 12 QBs in PPG scoring, only 2 QBs have had less than 3 below average games. Lamar and Dak. Dak also put up a massive 7 pt stinker in one game, while most of the QBs have a low around 10-12. His consistency is average or above for starting QBs, as several of the top 12 have more than 3 games below average. And Lamar has had the easiest SOS so far of the top 12 QBs by PPG outside of Brady
Minshew I don’t agree with starting over Lamar or even considering, though the argument there is the Jags travel well to London lately and the Texans defense hasn’t been great past few weeks
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:16 pm to Upperdecker
Not reading
You’d start Stafford over Lamar jackson?
You’d start Stafford over Lamar jackson?
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:24 pm to GynoSandberg
Don’t lie you read it and you don’t have an answer for it
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:40 pm to Upperdecker
I stopped at PPG tbh. Was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt when the guy blasted ya for finishing last but all this nonsensical irrelevant stuff you’re talking is making me think
Just tell me you’re starting stafford over jackson? I’ll internet argue with you if so
If not then what the hell ya babbling about
Just tell me you’re starting stafford over jackson? I’ll internet argue with you if so
If not then what the hell ya babbling about
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:45 pm to GynoSandberg
If you’re gonna tell me legitimate answers to your argument are irrelevant then you’re just grasping to not look like an idiot. Just give it up man. You’re trying to get me to make a pick so it gives you a chance to win but you’ve already lost this. The guy has a legitimate reason to have a backup, Stafford over Lamar is a legitimate question, and Stafford is a good starting QB right now. Done
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:53 pm to GynoSandberg
I've got Russell Wilson with no backup and I'm gonna start him vs SF. I agree, I don't want the headache of which QB to start every week while using a valuable bench spot on a backup QB. I wouldn't start Stafford over Jackson or have Stafford on my roster if I had Jackson.
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