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Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
289606 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Anyways, can we change the fricking subject and stop making this league to be about karma or some stupid rules or whatever? frick this league has been borderline miserable some weeks.



opposed to everyone saying they want to trade, but never trading?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74125 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:51 pm to
That was my next rant. But yeah. I've come to the conclusion that some people are just content.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

you can ruin more than just 1 teams playoff chances in this format. Not just rondo. is that not enough?


how does that work again?

you see if i can't get into the top 6 of scoring or anywhere near it, then i have no chance of ruining anything. can't you see that?

but in a true h2h league, i have the singular purpose of defeating one opponent, there's the off chance that HE has a shitty week while i have a good week, and then i get a win.

can't you see that the whole point of the top 6 winning, was to control variance, and promote the best 6 teams getting wins every week, and that is EXACTLY, what is happening? it is controlling the randomness of what happens every week to ensure that crazy statistical weeks don't keep the better teams from advancing. It's separating the good teams from the bad. But in controlling that variance, you give the lesser teams less chance and in some ways, less incentive to win.

In our old format, i would've beaten four out of the 12 teams. I would've had a chance to get a win. that chance would exist for a sheer random win every week. in that format, no matter how shitty my team is, there's a chance that i happen to play the team that plays shittier.

i'm not complaining about the format. I like it actually. But it does have its drawbacks.


as far as my team, there's only one week where i was truly competitive, and that was week 4 after i'd gotten downtrodden about my best player getting injured for the season. i owned that. But every other week, i've set my lineup and still gotten no closer to being in the top 6. my low scoring week 6, i had no chance. none.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289606 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Shouldn't have drafted a qb so early




the top teams in both divisions either have

a)a top QB (Brady, Rodgers, Brees,)

or

b)hit on value in draft on a player that is having a huge year or added same type of player via FA.

those would be

Newton
sproles
Steve Smith
Jimmy Graham

wes welker, fred jackson & forte to a lesser extent



check the math

Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35405 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:55 pm to
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Have I told Toula to go frick himself today? I can't remember.


Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:55 pm to
other lesson learned: matthew berry sucks balls.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289606 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

how does that work again?



if you win a spot in the top 6, you are bumping another team out.

if you are getting in the top 3 or 4, you are knocking 1 team out and pushing a few more to the back on the cutting block


its just not as black and white as 'im playing Rondo this week, im going to beat him and knock him out the playoffs'.


being competitive will have the same outcome. Not even to mention being active on the waiver wire can keep the other good teams from adding better players. its hard to complain about the balance of the league when you dont add players and let the better teams get even better.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74125 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Toula


Put me in a Witten
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35405 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:59 pm to
I would if I could.

can't take on Finley's bye. I need to win-out to make the playoffs.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31211 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

a)a top QB (Brady, Rodgers, Brees,)

quote:

b)hit on value in draft on a player that is having a huge year or added same type of player via FA.


Definitely seem the most common ways to win a FF league. Unfortunately, I thought Rivers would be just be the third best QB this year, and I was wrong. Next year, I am almost assuredly picking one of those three in the first round.

The other alternative to having a stud QB is get a QB who can run (Cam, Vick in 2010), but these can be very rare to come by.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74125 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

can't take on Finley's bye. I need to win-out to make the playoffs.



I have Heath Miller you can have, too.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

if you win a spot in the top 6, you are bumping another team out.

if you are getting in the top 3 or 4, you are knocking 1 team out and pushing a few more to the back on the cutting block


that's all well and good if you have a team capable of scoring in the top 6. Which i do not. Even if you want to quibble with me, then i'll clarify to say that I do not have the ability to field a team that does that consistently. If i did, i would've done so already.

quote:

eing competitive will have the same outcome. Not even to mention being active on the waiver wire can keep the other good teams from adding better players. its hard to complain about the balance of the league when you dont add players and let the better teams get even better.


being competitive? i'm trying to get into the top 6. That's what I can hope to do. That's the same incentive as trying to get a win.

i don't see how you can't see that the set up of this league is inherent on trying to reward quality teams to get wins, while minimizing the chances of undeserving teams lucking into the playoffs? Isn't that abundantly clear?

This system is fantastic. i give kudos to port for coming up with it.

but this is the drawback of the setup. You either can see that and can acknowledge it or you can't.



This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35405 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

being competitive? i'm trying to get into the top 6. That's what I can hope to do




you've had the #1 waiver wire spot for the past month....a month where we've seen prolly a dozen RBs go down, and you haven't made a play.

Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103787 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

that's all well and good if you have a team capable of scoring in the top 6. Which i do not.


It's always a possibility though with Vick and a full lineup.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289606 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

that's all well and good if you have a team capable of scoring in the top 6. Which i do not. Even if you want to quibble with me, then i'll clarify to say that I do not have the ability to field a team that does that consistently. If i did, i would've done so already.



how do you know you didn't have the ability to field a team that competes consistently?


as i just said, you didnt make a waiver claim for 5 weeks starting in week 1. That's no ones fault but yourself. You've let several good players slip by you, only to find themselves on better teams. If you cant see that is your demise, then you are just simply refusing to take blame for your inactivity.



Im tired of you saying "my team is bad, this league is set up to reward good teams only!!"

You dug your own grave dude. We are in week 8 and you haven't given a shite for 6 of them. Yea, its too late. But to complain about it is silly when its all your fault. You've added no players. You have made no creative decisions to try and improve your team via trade. You can't complain about anything.


I'll stop beating this dead horse. Good luck, really.

Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

no he's not. that's my team. i paid my money. i'm fulfilling my obligations


Instead of kicking you out (which is what a many called for) I gave Louie access to your team so that he could make sure you weren't starting players on byes / injurred players.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59879 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 3:38 pm to
G, Let me get Miller for Big Dallas Clark.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74125 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 3:42 pm to
Da frick's a Miller?

I said I'd give you Finley/MJD for Foster
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59879 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 3:49 pm to
Heat miller. If you didn't want MJD you should've traded him and Cam to me a few weeks ago for Foster
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74125 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 4:05 pm to
I just picked up Miller, you could've done the same.

And I wasn't going to trade for an injured Foster, obviously.

You are 2-5. You have two top 5 backs. You're TE play is abysmal. You should take the slight downgrade with MJD (who is 2nd in the NFL in rushing) and upgrade a top 10 TE. But what do I know

Foster, Wells, FJax and Dallas Clark

MJD, FJax, Wells, and Finley
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