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Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:19 am to hoojy
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Ya, there are some cpu bottlenecks. BG3 says hi.
However, most games don't follow in that footprint.
They don't, again, not a need. But I can tell you from first hand experience that micro stutters are incredibly grating when you're sitting next to a gaming super computer
But there are ways to deal with it, most of which I'm mentioned before. The first is to jack up graphics settings to try to return to being GPU bound. And if that isn't enough, artificially cap your framerate (via Nvidia control panel, etc) below where your CPU bound drops are going. Lower and smooth is better than higher and choppy.
ETA: I have BG3 frame capped at 100fps for exactly that reason.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:25 am to Joshjrn
Yep.
There are games that will skull frick your cpu, but are gpu bound. Well, depending on your gpu and moniter.
There are games that will skull frick your cpu, but are gpu bound. Well, depending on your gpu and moniter.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:37 am to Joshjrn
He doesn't play games that will bottleneck it.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:41 am to Devious
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He doesn't play games that will bottleneck it.
There are portions of CP2077 at 1440p that will absolutely become CPU bound with a 3080. The area with the cherry blossoms outside of the cafe where you first meet Takemura is one that immediately comes to mind.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:45 am to Joshjrn
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like CP 2077 as an example, that he's going to be CPU bound, and it's going to cause stuttering.
CP 2077 was having issues more frequently, but I changed some performance settings (I think I dropped Ray-tracing) and it stopped. I run CP at highest settings, no ray tracing, and I bounce around 80 fps.
COD studders from time to time but it happens then doesn't again during my entire playtime, and not every session. I run 100-105 fps on COD at max settings.
Like I said, I'm not really having issues with CPU or GPU, I just have no where to go CPU wise as 11th gen intel is a dead end, MB wise. I built in late 2021 on the front of 12th gen releasing. I made the decision at that time to go more budget for 11th gen. I know 2 years or so isn't a long time, but I'm in a better position now to be able to increase budget and have something that I can upgrade over time, if I want. If I go AM5 or LGA1851, I'll have quite a few years of upgrades, if needed, either way.
ETA: I may have mentioned earlier, I like new shiny things. So factor that in as well.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:46 am to Joshjrn
Trust me...he wouldn't notice a CPU bottleneck if it smacked him in the face.
Eta: miss you EB
Eta: miss you EB
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:47 am to Devious
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Trust me...he wouldn't notice a CPU bottleneck if it smacked him in the face.
Yo man, frick you.
Miss you too.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:48 am to SaintEB
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:48 am to SaintEB
I would go AM5 if you're wanting to upgrade. Although, 11th gen Intel isn't bad either. Just gonna depend on the game.
AM5 should at least afford you another upgrade in the cpu.
AM5 should at least afford you another upgrade in the cpu.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:53 am to Devious
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Trust me...he wouldn't notice a CPU bottleneck if it smacked him in the face.
Eta: miss you EB
Jokes aside, most people have no idea what a CPU bottleneck looks/feels like. They usually just blame either the game or GPU for stuttering
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:14 am to Joshjrn
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most people have no idea what a CPU bottleneck looks/feels like.
He is right. I don't. But frick him for saying it.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:25 am to SaintEB
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He is right. I don't. But frick him for saying it.
Unless you're just playing a bad game, full hitches are usually switching back and forth between being GPU and CPU bound repeatedly. Those will be noticeable framerate dips. If your framerate is fairly stable but it just feels bad, a bit stuttery and jittery, you're probably CPU bound.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:17 pm to Joshjrn
I’ve noticed both, but framerate dips are usually the eyesore.
Honestly, I’m not looking to upgrade because of problems. I haven’t experienced anything making even think of a need. I mean my setup works great right now. I just want to, I think. But I also don’t want to, because it works great right now.
Honestly, I’m not looking to upgrade because of problems. I haven’t experienced anything making even think of a need. I mean my setup works great right now. I just want to, I think. But I also don’t want to, because it works great right now.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:32 pm to SaintEB
Piecing together a new build as fun. No need to justify it, as long as you have the financial means
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:37 pm to SaintEB
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But I also don’t want to, because it works great right n
Then why?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:43 pm to hoojy
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Then why?
If my wife wouldn't give me serious side eye over it, I would probably build a new PC every year, year and a half, just for funsies
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:28 pm to hoojy
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Then why?
Honestly, a few things.
I regret not going 12th gen when I built. I could upgrade to 14th when i felt the need.
DDR5
PCIE 5.0 (for the GPU and SSD)
And, if I just focus on CPU, MB, RAM, and SSD, I can do it for a grand or so. Then, if I decide to, get a new GPU later.
Besides that, no reason.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:35 pm to SaintEB
DDR5? Ok, but it actually performs worse in some games than DDR4.
PCIE 5 doesn't do shite. GPU's are barely making way of PCIE 3. I mean it does do something on some games on storage... Keyword: some.
I wouldn't expect the tech to take off until next-gen consoles.
PCIE 5 doesn't do shite.
GPU's are barely making way of PCIE 3. I mean it does do something on some games on storage... Keyword: some. I wouldn't expect the tech to take off until next-gen consoles.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:42 pm to hoojy
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DDR5? Ok, but it actually performs worse in some games than DDR4.
PCIE 5 doesn't do shite. GPU's are barely making way of PCIE 3. I mean it does do something on some games on storage... Keyword: some.
I wouldn't expect the tech to take off until next-gen consoles.
I don't understand. What do you gain from talking me out of building a PC?
I'm sure any number of posters here have the same knowledge and opinions as you, but none have said anything.
What makes you so special?
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