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Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2216 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:11 pm to
They are hitting it 30 yards longer than the tour average. That's a lot, even for ex college baseball players. I mean, I'm not saying tour average is actually the tour average or that your buddies can't hit it 330-350 off the tee. But if you are hitting it 270+ you've probably maxed out your distance to some extent. Assuming you don't have a serious swing flaw and you are playing newish equipment that you were fit for.
Posted by SamtheSham
In a greenside bunker
Member since Nov 2018
492 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 1:25 pm to
Studies have shown that moving the ball forward in your stance and teeing higher so you catch the ball on the upswing can produce more distance. That can sometimes lead to pulling the ball so you may need to work that out.

Also, what is your typical ball flight? If you're hitting a high fade you you need to see about hitting more of a draw.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20706 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:15 pm to
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If you are (legit) hitting it 270 you’re longer than like 95% of amateurs


I measure with a bushnell phantom.

Most of my drives that are not into a tree or really bad measure between 220 and 240.

My longest drive this year is 264, but that was one swing.

I probably average 225. I usually get to go first to the green with my groups.

I hit 1 green today. Shot 90 with a birdie, 5 pars and 3 triples!

I had fun, but my bad shots really cost me on the back.
It was mediocre overall, but like Charles Dickens said after a round, “ It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.”
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34143 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:29 pm to
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I probably average 225

How old are you? Time to move forward?
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20706 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:31 pm to
I’m torn.
I’m 55 and I know I’m not a big hitter, but I play with a mix of guys who mostly hit it big or at least bigger than me.

I probably should play what we call member mixed which is 9 white/9 gold. I’ve done this in the winter or with older guys I play with. It helps.

Our front 9 is a bit shorter per hole, I’m in the 30s regularly so my guys keep me back.

On the back though, it’s a bit longer per hole. I also score 2 to 4 shots a round higher back there.

Today on par 3s: I hit 7 iron, 7 wood, 7 wood, 6 iron.
On par 5s: I almost reached the shortest one in two.
The others not even close. I did get on another in regulation.
Par 4s on back approaches: 6 iron, 7 wood, 8 iron, 3 wood(485 uphill; it’s a par 5 for me!) and finally a wedge!

I sometimes hit it better than 225, but if you asked me to drop a ball where I’m most likely to hit it; it would be 215-240 80% of time.

I also have a streaky short game which can go low on either side.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 8:33 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34143 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:58 pm to
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I also have a streaky short game which can go low on either side.

As I posted before, you’ve got to become dirty in the short game. When you miss the green on you’re approach, think “par is made.”
At 55, your not going to become a long ball player, own it and get after it!
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 2:31 am
Posted by thedentist45
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2008
568 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:16 am to
My thought process is this when I play.
If I get anywhere near the green with my second shot, I trust my short wedge game enough to get up and in for par. If I hit the green, two putt par at worst is the goal. Birdie chances will come but I sure won't be mad if I shoot even par.
Posted by bamabkj
Member since Dec 2015
733 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:43 am to
I'll admit those numbers are estimates on length. I mean though you look at the course sign. Says 390 par 4 and they are hitting half a 56 wedge in.
We're not measuring drives so my numbers are science data proven but it's a start.

Guess I'll keep working on what I can. I feel a little better
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20706 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:43 pm to
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As I posted before, you’ve got to become dirty in the short game. When you miss the green on you’re approach, think “par is made.” At 55, your not going to become a long ball player, own it and get after it!


After work, I went to our short game area and gave myself a series of 5 shot tests.
Lob wedge over bunker, 56 from 25 to 40 yards, 48 degree wedge bump and run shots.

I was pleased with the results. Got 5/5 several times.
I want to improve to a 95% on green and 75% within 15 feet from 40 yards in.
Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1227 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:38 pm to
To be clear, per your OP, these guys can drive it consistently 340 yards and you sometimes even par, "can't even compete" with them. So what tour do they play on? Driving 340 yards on the regular and consistently shooting in the 60s. I think your numbers are off.
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4379 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:52 pm to
What yardage do you play from?
GOLF Magazine posted an article this year on choosing the correct yardage.
(take the distance you hit your 5 iron and multiply it by 36.)
I'm an 8 hdcp and hit my 5 about 180, so I look for tees at about 6,400 range.
LINK
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20706 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

GOLF Magazine posted an article this year on choosing the correct yardage. (take the distance you hit your 5 iron and multiply it by 36.)


That is a good guide.

I also like to play a tee where I use every club in my bag.
Par 3s should vary for me from 120 to 190.
A wedge/9 iron to a 5 wood.
Our course often sets the par threes where I have 155 to 175. Not much variability.

One par 5 on each 9 should be reachable with two really great shots with a driver and a fairway wood. The other should be a three shot hole. Some of the guys I play with really should be back a tee, but it’s fun to see them putt for eagles.

I like a mixture of par 4s from 310 to about 420. We have one that is 485 on the card. I make more birdies on the par 5s than pars on that hole.

I guess I should move up a tee. I’m not likely to gain any yardage at 55.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2216 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:20 am to
Creating your own golf course to give you want you want is something that makes sense. And I'd probably consent to your setup. Just makes keeping a handicap hard.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20706 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:22 pm to
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Creating your own golf course to give you want you want is something that makes sense. And I'd probably consent to your setup. Just makes keeping a handicap hard.

I shot 41/43 for 84 today from the whites at 6400.

When I’m not at my home course I play any tee 6000 to 6300.

My home course rates blue, white, and gold, but also provides a slope and rating for “mixed tees” which I really hope more courses will consider. Mixed tees are where you play half of two adjacent tees. Blue/white, gold/white, gold/green, etc. You play white on 9 of the holes and gold on 9. It’s a mixture, for example number 1 from white, 2 from gold, 3 from gold, 4 from white, 5 from gold, etc..

I probably need to be closer to 6000 than 6500. I’ve thought of playing a game where players play different tees based on the last hole. If you birdie, you back up a tee. If you make double bogey or worse you move up a tee. I would only do this on a day when nobody was playing. I think it’s fun to play different tees, and maybe golfers could really bounce back from a terrible hole.
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