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re: Making the jump from the 80’s to the 70’s
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:18 pm to LSU5508
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:18 pm to LSU5508
What got me into the 70s from being a 80s shooter was the wedge game.
You HAVE to make birdies to shoot in the 70s consistently. If you are 125 and in you should expect not only to hit the green, but have a makeable birdie putt about 40% of the time.
You HAVE to make birdies to shoot in the 70s consistently. If you are 125 and in you should expect not only to hit the green, but have a makeable birdie putt about 40% of the time.
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:30 pm to LSU5508
All of this advice is good, but I think knowing where to miss is important. My typical miss is long and left.
A particular scenario that has made a world of difference is when I take the time to realize, for example, the green is wide open in the front and a disaster in the back so play for the green but lean toward knowing a short miss is better than long.
A particular scenario that has made a world of difference is when I take the time to realize, for example, the green is wide open in the front and a disaster in the back so play for the green but lean toward knowing a short miss is better than long.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:35 pm to LSU5508
Just my opinion but the driver becomes more important the lower you’re trying to get.
It’s difficult for the vast majority of amateurs to consistently hit greens from 170+ out. I find that if I’m driving the ball well, I’m usually scraping around 80 even if the rest of the game is mediocre.
Also, I got some bad news for you: you’ll probably still shoot above 80 on occasion even if you get down to scratch or so. A couple of bad swings and triples are always lurking.
It’s difficult for the vast majority of amateurs to consistently hit greens from 170+ out. I find that if I’m driving the ball well, I’m usually scraping around 80 even if the rest of the game is mediocre.
Also, I got some bad news for you: you’ll probably still shoot above 80 on occasion even if you get down to scratch or so. A couple of bad swings and triples are always lurking.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:44 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Just my opinion but the driver becomes more important the lower you’re trying to get
Not an opinion, a fact
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:47 pm to barry
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It's definitely not as cool as trying to flop a 64 degree like phil
Every time I'm able to hit that type of shot with a 60, which is about 20% of the time, I think to myself "this game is f-ing easy" and that contact on a flop feels so good.
Than the other 8 shots out of 10 are in the water, into the sand or thinned over the green for the inevitable triple.
Not doing stupid shite helps a lot and is for some reason tremendously hard throughout an entire round for me.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:58 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Also, I got some bad news for you: you’ll probably still shoot above 80 on occasion even if you get down to scratch or so. A couple of bad swings and triples are always lurking.
I think most of us need to realize that variances in scores is normal even when trending downward in handicap. I mean, professionals have 5-6 shot swings between rounds in tournaments. So, if your best is a 75 it shouldn't be shocking to drop some 82s or so in there on occasion.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 12:58 pm to STLhog
I live in the world between 78-82 with the occasional trip near par and the occasional trip to 88.
The last few years, I've lived and died by the birdie. I'd get aggressive and try and make as many as possible, which brought bigger numbers into play. Lately, I've been playing more conservative and smarter and it has helped. I still make birdies and I still make bogeys, but it eliminates the silly big number.
The last few years, I've lived and died by the birdie. I'd get aggressive and try and make as many as possible, which brought bigger numbers into play. Lately, I've been playing more conservative and smarter and it has helped. I still make birdies and I still make bogeys, but it eliminates the silly big number.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:10 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
I generally stay around 80-84, however my last two rounds have been 76,74. Greens in regulation is key. Stay away from "sucker" pinned and go center of green.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:13 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
It’s funny you mention that because my game changes based on the money game I’m in. There are some games where you want to go as low as possible and pars are good. But there’s another game where every birdie pays and I’m way too aggressive because my overall score doesn’t really matter. But I’ve also had my lowest rounds playing that way. 
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:23 pm to ell_13
I played a couple weeks ago laying up off every tee, not going for greens in two and aiming for the center of every green, regardless of where the pin was or what club I had in my hand. I only played 9 and was absolutely cruising, but was so bored. Mental toughness and ability to stay focused and not bored is a skill and a skill I lack.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:25 pm to ell_13
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Changing big misses to small misses. In other words going from a huge slice into some trees or hazard to a small slice where it’s playable to the front of the green
I am a bogie golfer thru and thru. The biggest difference between myself and good golfers that I’ve seen is good golfers have good misses.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:51 pm to Dire Wolf
Another one I just thought about- find a game with guys who are good golfers. If you are trying to break 80, you should try and play with guys who are breaking 80 and play in competitive money games.
You'll learn from watching them, but it also gives you something to chase during the round.
You'll learn from watching them, but it also gives you something to chase during the round.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 1:56 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
That’s definitely a good one. You pick up some pretty good habits. The best golfers keep the exact same routine over every shot and putt.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:00 pm to LSU5508
Another big component is the mental side. One shot at a time and do your best to not keep score as you go. Golf is hard enough - you don't need to complicate it with know that if you par the last 2 you will break your scoring record. that usually ends with a couple of doubles.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:56 pm to LSU5508
As most have said avoid the big numbers.
I'm the king of shooting an 83 with two triples and three doubles.
I'm the king of shooting an 83 with two triples and three doubles.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:14 pm to LSU5508
Play a bunch with people that are better than you. You also need to play for money. You’ll find yourself focusing more on your shots, strategy, and club selection if you have money on the line. It doesn’t have to be a bunch of money...just enough that you don’t want to lose it.
Also, focus on your fitness. Even though you might feel great there’s a good chance your body is getting tired near the end of your round.
Bring some healthy snacks on the course and eat a little something every few holes.
Also, focus on your fitness. Even though you might feel great there’s a good chance your body is getting tired near the end of your round.
Bring some healthy snacks on the course and eat a little something every few holes.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:18 pm to LSU5508
I putt pretty good, average about 31-33 putts per round. Every now and then I can get to 28-29 putts per round. It’s my grir that needs work
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:09 pm to LSU5508
Enjoyed reading through this thread because I have been trying to make the jump into the 70's for years now. Been playing seriously for the last 10 years or so (hitting the range, playing every weekend, lessons, etc).
It's definitely a grind and a process to get there. I'm a 10 hc right now and that's my lowest to date. I'm typically in the 84-88 range at my home course, and I've come closer to breaking 80 in the last 6 months than I ever have. In the last 2 months I've put up an 80 and an 81. Still never have broke 80. It's unbelievably frustrating how hard it is to get 1 or 2 more strokes to get that 79.
Everyone has made great points so far... for me, the times I am closest to that 79 I am:
1) Hitting the driver well, at least 50% FW hit and misses are just a small bit off line. NO PENALTIES
2) No double bogeys or worse!
3) Make at least 2-3 birdies
4) I know I won't hit a ton of GIR, so wedge play around the green has to be on point. Chips/pitches have to be within 10 feet on the first try.
When that wedge game is on, I can grind out pars and keep myself in it. If I'm missing greens and not hitting chips and pitches close, forget about it.
I think this is the year I break 80, just need it to happen already
Good luck
It's definitely a grind and a process to get there. I'm a 10 hc right now and that's my lowest to date. I'm typically in the 84-88 range at my home course, and I've come closer to breaking 80 in the last 6 months than I ever have. In the last 2 months I've put up an 80 and an 81. Still never have broke 80. It's unbelievably frustrating how hard it is to get 1 or 2 more strokes to get that 79.
Everyone has made great points so far... for me, the times I am closest to that 79 I am:
1) Hitting the driver well, at least 50% FW hit and misses are just a small bit off line. NO PENALTIES
2) No double bogeys or worse!
3) Make at least 2-3 birdies
4) I know I won't hit a ton of GIR, so wedge play around the green has to be on point. Chips/pitches have to be within 10 feet on the first try.
When that wedge game is on, I can grind out pars and keep myself in it. If I'm missing greens and not hitting chips and pitches close, forget about it.
I think this is the year I break 80, just need it to happen already
Good luck
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:21 pm to lsuwiseman
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Golf is hard enough - you don't need to complicate it with know that if you par the last 2 you will break your scoring record. that usually ends with a couple of doubles.
This is great advice, but I have 0 clue how people do it. I know exactly where I stand the entire round if I'm around even par, don't know how to forget and not pay attention
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:29 pm to Golfer
I will add my 2 cents:
1. Track your rounds with an app like Taylormade's myRoundPro that tracks true statistics. I'm sure there are others that someone can tell you. This will give you a true idea of where you can eliminate strokes.
2. Analyze your biggest needs for improvement. Most players, that will be driving the ball. If you pick up 20 yards and hit more fairways, most players that are shooting in the 80s would drop 5 or 6 shots a round on that. Hitting 60% of the fairways and eliminating big misses off the tee goes a long way.
3. Playing smarter golf is a big one. I watched a youtube video the other day from Golf Sidekick. While he is a bit annoying, he gives some great info about what you are talking about. He talks about ways of making better decisions on the golf course tee to green. Hitting irons on par 4s that he can, accepting some holes are bogey holes and eliminating big numbers.
Golf video link
1. Track your rounds with an app like Taylormade's myRoundPro that tracks true statistics. I'm sure there are others that someone can tell you. This will give you a true idea of where you can eliminate strokes.
2. Analyze your biggest needs for improvement. Most players, that will be driving the ball. If you pick up 20 yards and hit more fairways, most players that are shooting in the 80s would drop 5 or 6 shots a round on that. Hitting 60% of the fairways and eliminating big misses off the tee goes a long way.
3. Playing smarter golf is a big one. I watched a youtube video the other day from Golf Sidekick. While he is a bit annoying, he gives some great info about what you are talking about. He talks about ways of making better decisions on the golf course tee to green. Hitting irons on par 4s that he can, accepting some holes are bogey holes and eliminating big numbers.
Golf video link
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