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re: Official**: LIV Golf will not receive ranking points per head of OWGR
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:13 pm to DestrehanTiger
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:13 pm to DestrehanTiger
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If LIV is still around, how do we know if someone they added is good? More than likely it is because they were on these other tours first where they earned their way to the top. How do we know that this prince isn't good? Maybe he is incredible and would be the best. However, you are dismissing him for a reason. He hasn't done anything to prove his prowess in recognized tournaments.
Why does everyone think that coming up with some sort of adjustable metric would be so difficult?
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:13 pm to BBONDS25
quote:That is what liv players and yourself is arguing. If you play golf, you should be assigned a ranking. It’s the job of the OWGR tk figure out a players rank regardless of where they play
Good lord. Beat the hell out of that straw man.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:14 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Why is it so difficult for LIv to make an easy adjustment?
Why does everyone think that coming up with some sort of adjustable metric would be so difficult?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:15 pm to lsupride87
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They alls even lretty upset about the decision, sure seems like they care ….
Please point to where I said they didn’t care? I said they would be fine. Again, if you have to assign to me arguments I never made, perhaps you should think about why that is.
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You look bad here. Maybe you should read, and you will see this wasn’t the reason
Excellent. What was the reason?
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Their job is to rank players all around the world;
Is this a fact?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:16 pm to BBONDS25
quote:There are some young golfers on liv that won’t be playing majors who likely would be if they didn’t choose liv. Sure, they have money, but they won’t be playing the top golf events. Seems a little less than “fine”. Where as the young good golfers that didn’t choose liv will make lots of money and play the majors.
I said they would be fine.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:18 pm to lsupride87
I just want to say that Talor Gooch is an entitled little bitch.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:19 pm to TDTOM
The expectation that the OWGR change and basically allow every single golf event in the world including member tournaments at country clubs to get ranking points, instead of LIv making a tweak and confirming, is lean insanity and hubris
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:20 pm to lsupride87
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Sure, they have money, but they won’t be playing the top golf events. Seems a little less than “fine”.
Well, clearly their priority was the money. You’re a golf purist. You wouldn’t care about the money if you were a pro. We get it. To those that prioritized the money…they will be fine.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:21 pm to lsupride87
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including member tournaments at country clubs to get ranking points,
Name a single person besides you to make such a ridiculous claim. All I said was math isn’t hard. Nobody is making your absurd claim. What a pathetic straw man.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:22 pm to lsupride87
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Why is it so difficult for LIv to make an easy adjustment?
It isn’t. That is non responsive to my question, though.
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Why does everyone think that coming up with some sort of adjustable metric would be so difficult?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:33 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Taylor Gooch
Name a single person besides you to make such a ridiculous claim
quote:Many others have agreed. If it’s the job of the OWGR to rank players regardless of the tour or anything else as Gooch and others say, they need to be looking at every golfer playing out there. If not, it’s not truly what they want
Their job is to rank players all around the world; it’s not players’ and tours’ jobs to conform to what they decide is worth getting ranked, or how you’re able to get ranked."
They want the impossible according to their statements. But truly, they just want “rank us on liv”, not a risky rank golfers regardless of where they play or how they play. It’s just bullshite from them
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:43 pm to lsupride87
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Taylor Gooch
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Their job is to rank players all around the world; it’s not players’ and tours’ jobs to conform to what they decide is worth getting ranked, or how you’re able to get ranked."
Please point to me where Gooch says country club weekenders should be ranked, as you claim.
If you have to lie and assign an argument never made, perhaps you should re-think your “point.” What a joke to take that and claim anything near to what you claim. Ridiculous.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:46 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Can you not read
Please point to me where Gooch says country club weekenders should be ranked, as you claim.
quote:If a player shouldn’t have to conform to anything to get ranked as he says, and it’s only about being worthy of being ranked, agains as he says, he is absolutely saying that if Rahm or someone else only played country club events, they absolutely should still be ranked. Please try and argue otherwise. You just don’t like it because it makes your entire argument go to shite
it’s not players’ and tours’ jobs to conform to what they decide is worth getting ranked, or how you’re able to get ranked."
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:49 pm to lsupride87
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Can you not read
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it’s not players’ and tours’ jobs to conform to what they decide is worth getting ranked, or how you’re able to get ranked."
Again. No sane individual would take this to mean a country club game should be ranked.
Reducio ad Absurdum. Perhaps don’t question others intellectual capacity when you have to resort to logical fallacies (which, clearly, you weren’t even aware you were doing) and assigning arguments never made to make an extremely weak point.
Good Lord. This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:53 pm to BBONDS25
quote:it’s what he is arguing for 100%
Again. No sane individual would take this to mean a country club game should be ranked. Reductio ad Ab
If Rahm quit the tour, and decided he was going to play 10 member-guest events across the country, hooch 100% is arguing for him to receive points. I mean Rahm would clearly still be one of the best players in the world, so it should be the job of the OWGR to assign points to him correct?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:54 pm to lsupride87
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it’s what he is arguing for 100%
ok man. You’re arguing a logical fallacy. Can’t argue with someone that doesn’t recognize that. It isn’t a new thing. You think you’re being clever, but it’s just a really bad argument. Hence the well known logical fallacy. There is a friecking Latin phrase for what you’re doing. You aren’t bright enough to understand that. I can’t help you grasp it. Keep telling everyone gooch said the country club weekenders need to be ranked. You’re making a fool of yourself. I was just trying to help.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:57 pm to BBONDS25
I am 100% following the logic of you and the LIv players
If Jon Rahm quit the pga tour but continued to practice, we both agree he would still be a top golfer? Yes
You are saying the OWGR should rank golfers based on skill and not having to conform to any rules on where or how they play? Yes
So you and the liv players logic absolutely argues for Rahm to get ranked playing country club events.
If Jon Rahm quit the pga tour but continued to practice, we both agree he would still be a top golfer? Yes
You are saying the OWGR should rank golfers based on skill and not having to conform to any rules on where or how they play? Yes
So you and the liv players logic absolutely argues for Rahm to get ranked playing country club events.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:58 pm to lsupride87
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am 100% following the logic of you and the LIv players
To an absurd conclusion. That is a quintessential example of reducio ad absurdum. A well known logical fallacy that has been around for centuries.
well done. 
Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:00 pm to BBONDS25
quote:I can't believe this is free
ok man. You’re arguing a logical fallacy. Can’t argue with someone that doesn’t recognize that. It isn’t a new thing. You think you’re being clever, but it’s just a really bad argument. Hence the well known logical fallacy. There is a friecking Latin phrase for what you’re doing. You aren’t bright enough to understand that.
I can’t help you grasp it. Keep telling everyone gooch said the country club weekenders need to be ranked. You’re making a fool of yourself. I was just trying to help.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:00 pm to BBONDS25
So it is or isn’t the job of the OWGR to rank players around the world based on who is the best regardless of the players having to conform to any tour?
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