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Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:51 am to Gravitiger
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That was before texting,
Texting existed in 2000. Phil was probably getting lines from his bookie via text
Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:52 am to Gravitiger
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They won 5&4 in alternate shot on day 1.
Day 1 isn’t played on the weekend when he’d be checking football scores
Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:56 am to Gravitiger
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Also convenient they waited more than two decades to say anything.
Maybe for the same reason no one talked about Tiger having frick buddies all over the country until his wife chased him out of the house with a golf club. Phil wasn’t trying to screw over the PGA tour 20 years ago
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 8:58 am
Posted on 5/17/22 at 10:53 am to SingleMalt1973
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That doesn’t tell me shite, they probably don’t like Phil most pros don’t. However if the Saudis offered him 130 million ,which is the number I saw, why the hell would they be pissed at Phil for taking the cash? It’s no different than free agency in other sports you usually go,with the money.
Phil was actively working against the the PGA while contracted to the PGA. He was stabbing the PGA in the back. This isn’t the simple case of leaving a job for a better deal. He’s trying to frick them over. And by default, hick over the other
Members. Try being more objective in how you view this.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:45 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:I don’t see why so many fail to see this
Phil was actively working against the the PGA while contracted to the PGA. He was stabbing the PGA in the back.
The Saudi angle is media shite. Who cares. But actively working with a group trying to destroy the organization you are a member of is unforgivable in a business sense. It’s actually wild the PGA tour is even considering ever letting Phil back in. In no other world would he ever even be allowed in the same room again
The bullshite of “I’m just trying to make the tour better”.
You are working with someone who wants to destroy it. “Look, I’m working with the Japanese because I just want to strengthen the American military”This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:05 pm to lsupride87
Phil's sequester is by his own choice. The tour and the players have all said he is welcome back. He's not playing because he doesn't want to. Why he is getting any sympathy is beyond me.
He probably has a fatwa on his head from the Saudis for saying they were "bad Motherfrickers" and criticizing their policies.
He probably has a fatwa on his head from the Saudis for saying they were "bad Motherfrickers" and criticizing their policies.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:07 pm to lsupride87
It’s just all messy in general, Phil’s comments also pissed off Ole Greg and LIV.
Phil just ran his mouth too much and it’s come back to bite him.
Too much smoke coming out of guys saying that he’s a POS too, you can admit some of it in unnecessary and they are making an example out of him while also admitting the dude seems like a dbag
Phil just ran his mouth too much and it’s come back to bite him.
Too much smoke coming out of guys saying that he’s a POS too, you can admit some of it in unnecessary and they are making an example out of him while also admitting the dude seems like a dbag
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 5/17/22 at 3:42 pm to tigerinthebueche
Phil’s getting sympathy for the same reason Tiger did after she took a golf club to him.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 5:53 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Phil was actively working against the the PGA while contracted to the PGA. He was stabbing the PGA in the back.
This is absolutely, demonstrably false.
Professional golfers are INDEPENDENT contractors. They can set their own schedule and are only bound by some loose requirements depending on which tour they hold membership. Usually, there is a minimum requirement of tournaments played to maintain membership.
As a former professional golfer, I disagree with many of the initiatives the PGA Tour is implementing specifically to discourage their members from playing in the LIV golf series. It goes against the concept of professionals being independent contractors. The Tour can refuse to co-sanction events and not count them towards the minimum 15 tournaments played per year to maintain membership. I also disagree with the mandate for players to play in a tournament once every so often or suffer an unknown penalty.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:19 pm to Floyd Dawg
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Professional golfers are INDEPENDENT contractors. They can set their own schedule and are only bound by some loose requirements depending on which tour they hold membership. Usually, there is a minimum requirement of tournaments played to maintain membership.
What does this have to do with anything? He was still plotting against the PGA to aid and assist a competitive league. You don’t see a problem with that? If I worked for you as your yard man and you found out I was trying to help your competitors to destroy your business, would you keep me around or fire me? I’m fairly sure I know the answer. And Phil ain’t fired or suspended. The PGA said he’s welcome back. I can’t believe you think the PGA and its other members should turn a blind eye to his actions simply because he’s “an independent contractor”.
And as a PGA member, when you get your card, do you not sign a contract with the PGA to abide by their rules for that season or whatever your membership term is?
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:35 pm to Floyd Dawg
That is a word salad with no relevance.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:02 pm to tigerinthebueche
The PGA TOUR at one time was itself the ‘competitive’ tour The tour every week has its feel good story of how much they do for the community at each tour stop. Which I’m sure they do. The tour would survive if players left.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:21 pm to Floyd Dawg
quote:As someone who is now in administration for a hospital, we employ a shite ton of independent contractors. If one ever actively worked with an organization hell bent on taking us down, they would never step foot on premises again
Professional golfers are INDEPENDENT contractors
Being an independent contractor doesn’t give you free reigns to try and frick over your organization. Maybe they need to trash that to new golfers
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:30 pm to lsupride87
If an independent contractor leaves to work for your competitors they aren’t trying to take your company down. They are leaving for various reasons. Salary, perhaps benefits, vacation, etc.
They are trying to make a better life for themselves.
It’s that simple
They are trying to make a better life for themselves.
It’s that simple
Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:36 pm to joeleblanc
No it isn’t that simple. When he was writing bylaws of a competing tour it became an attack on the tour.
As an independent contractor I know some things are out of bounds if I was to keep the job.
As an independent contractor I know some things are out of bounds if I was to keep the job.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:42 pm to TDTOM
I disagree. Recruiting another independent contractor to leave the current employer is not attacking the employer.
Tiger Woods just today said he would like to be paid if he is featured on streaming services. Obviously he isn’t happy not getting paid while making money for the tour. Is that considered attacking the employer?
Tiger Woods just today said he would like to be paid if he is featured on streaming services. Obviously he isn’t happy not getting paid while making money for the tour. Is that considered attacking the employer?
Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:44 pm to joeleblanc
Nope. Saying you disagree with something is not the same thing as helping create a direct competitor.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:46 pm to TDTOM
Players that leave aren’t creating anything. The LIV is already created. All they are doing is switching jobs.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 7:47 pm to joeleblanc
quote:You might want to read up on this. Phil actively helped to create LIV
Players that leave aren’t creating anything
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