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Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:53 pm to bamameister
I honestly don’t know what some of y’all want out of this. Are there people who hope the PGA Tour collapses and be replaced by a league based overseas? Because it sure sounds like it sometimes in these threads. Or maybe the reality television generation thinks gotchas and trolls are more entertaining than the sport itself.
….or maybe the PGA can have its tour and LIV its tour. They all make a lot of money. Let the market determine everyone’s fate. The lolz on the internet aren’t going to be a factor
….or maybe the PGA can have its tour and LIV its tour. They all make a lot of money. Let the market determine everyone’s fate. The lolz on the internet aren’t going to be a factor
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:01 pm to lsufball19
Most just want the LIV players to go and be gone. However, that side keeps talking shite about the PGA. They should not care what is going on at the PGA Tour.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:07 pm to bamameister
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That my friend is a 180 with a half twist.
Ok. Now that you’re done jerking off over their admission, what next? How does this change anything? Your “gotcha” moment is a bust.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:39 pm to TDTOM
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Most just want the LIV players to go and be gone.
Rory wouldn’t even acknowledge Fat Pats existence. So petty.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:45 pm to bamameister
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:06 pm to BBONDS25
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Rory wouldn’t even acknowledge Fat Pats existence. So petty.
I mean, I might not have had the restraint Rory did after getting served a subpoena during Christmas Eve dinner with my family, but that’s just me. Love or hate Rory, that’s a bad example of him being “petty”
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:19 pm to lsufball19
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mean, I might not have had the restraint Rory did after getting served a subpoena during Christmas Eve dinner with my family, but that’s just me
You think fat pat controlled when the process servers his lawyers hired served Rory?
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:21 pm to BBONDS25
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You think fat pat controlled when the process servers his lawyers hired served Rory?
On Christmas Eve, absolutely. There’s zero process servers who are doing that on their own initiative. I work with plenty.
Even if you ignore that, no I’m not gonna have a friendly chat with someone who just sued me. And if I’m Fatrick, I don’t approach Rory right after that unless I’m trying to be a dick, which he was
Like I said, there’s plenty of examples of Rory being petty. That isn’t one of them
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:50 am to bamameister
I honestly have no clue how anyone could think the emergence of LIV would not elevate the product of golf for the player and the consumer.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 8:17 am to LSUfan4444
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I honestly have no clue how anyone could think the emergence of LIV would not elevate the product of golf for the player and the consumer.
Phil said all it takes for change is leverage. Competition is always the best thing that can happen when a monopoly has full control over everyone's livelihood.
This time last year all the rhetoric coming from the PGA was about blood money and the moral reprehensibility of doing business with the Saudis. Today the narrative is about change and how it has reshaped professional golf for everyone's benefit.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 8:49 am to bamameister
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Competition is always the best thing that can happen
How is it competition when one league has an endless supply of money and don't care about turning a profit?
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monopoly has full control over everyone's livelihood.
You mean the monopoly that the players controlled?
Posted on 3/9/23 at 8:58 am to RedHawk
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How is it competition when one league has an endless supply of money and don't care about turning a profit?
And yet Jay Monahan has matched prize money for his elevated events. He complained profusely to his golfers and the sports world that the PGA couldn't go head-to-head with LIV monetarily. Then he goes head to head. Sounds like Jay figured out a way to spend all that TV money in a new and interesting manner. Start paying his product what they are worth, or else keep losing them to LIV.
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You mean the monopoly that the players controlled?
I mean the good ole boys in these country clubs who have for decades been putting all that TV money somewhere that wasn't in the pockets of the players.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:06 am to bamameister
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And yet Jay Monahan has matched prize money for his elevated events. He complained profusely to his golfers and the sports world that the PGA couldn't go head-to-head with LIV monetarily. Then he goes head to head
The PGA Tour isn't paying massive salaries plus larger purses. So no, he isn't going head to head with LIV
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Sounds like Jay figured out a way to spend all that TV money in a new and interesting manner.
Sounds like you're twisting facts again. I asked this earlier and it was directed at you. What exactly is your wish for how this all shakes out in the end? To just trash the tour and hope it fails or what?
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 9:09 am
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:35 am to lsufball19
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The PGA Tour isn't paying massive salaries plus larger purses. So no, he isn't going head to head with LIV
Where have you been? The Genesis winner took home 3.6 million. The year before? 2.1 million
The Players Championship has always conducted its finances more like a major. Last season Can Smith earned 3.6 million of a 20 million dollar purse. This year: 4.5 million dollars of a 25 million dollar purse.
Those purses on these elevated events are competing with the 4 million dollar purses for the winners on the LIV tour.
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Sounds like you're twisting facts again. I asked this earlier and it was directed at you. What exactly is your wish for how this all shakes out in the end? To just trash the tour and hope it fails or what?
Are you really listening to what Rory and Rahm just said about what LIV golf has accomplished on behalf of the PGA? They said that they have brought innovation to the tour. Jon Rahm's exact words: " So, yeah, it is because of LIV Golf, otherwise we wouldn't have seen any of this."
What are you seeing? Larger purses, No cut events, elevated events, shorter seasons, Free agency.
It's past time these PGA players give honor to Phil and what LIV golf has done. It's past time to expose Jay Monahan for his hypocrisy and misdirection under the guise of charity. The players should be thankful and say so. Why continue to be hypocrites about it as you cash all this newfound wealth?
And personally, I'm just happy to see the guys get off the plantation.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:23 am to lsufball19
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On Christmas Eve, absolutely. There’s zero process servers who are doing that on their own initiative. I work with plenty.
In what capacity? You must just be working with Constables and not private process servers.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:21 am to lsufball19
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What exactly is your wish for how this all shakes out in the end? To just trash the tour and hope it fails or what?
Reconciliation, recognition of Greg Norman and Phil Mickelson as the godfathers of the next evolution in golf, and peace between LIV players and the tour, including OWGR points and access to PGA events.
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Brandel Shamblee being ridiculed and banished from our airwaves would be a great first step. Send him to Golf Channel Croatia where they show LIV events on their air.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 11:24 am
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:01 pm to bamameister
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Competition is always the best thing that can happen when a monopoly has full control over everyone's livelihood.
So how are you personally impacted by this? Do you play on either tour? Is your salary effected in any way as a result of any of this?
Why do you give two shits what any of those guys earn from anything?
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This time last year all the rhetoric coming from the PGA was about blood money and the moral reprehensibility of doing business with the Saudis. Today the narrative is about change and how it has reshaped professional golf for everyone's benefit.
It ain’t rhetoric if it’s true. And the comments regarding the Saudis were spot on. The Saudis didn’t get involved cause they wanted a better life for any golfer you fricking idiot.
The narrative hasn’t changed. That anyone acknowledges that the tour has to do what is necessary to maintain talent and be competitive isn’t an omission of anything. It’s adapting to business conditions. And it’s yet to be determined if it’s beneficial to everyone.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:06 pm to GRTiger
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Eta
Brandel Shamblee being ridiculed and banished from our airwaves would be a great first step. Send him to Golf Channel Croatia where they show LIV events on their air.
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:36 pm to bamameister
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Where have you been? The Genesis winner took home 3.6 million. The year before? 2.1 million The Players Championship has always conducted its finances more like a major. Last season Can Smith earned 3.6 million of a 20 million dollar purse. This year: 4.5 million dollars of a 25 million dollar purse. Those purses on these elevated events are competing with the 4 million dollar purses for the winners on the LIV tour.
Can you point me to the part where the PGA is paying players salaries? You know like I asked? Maybe it was the word “and” that confused you
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