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Posted on 7/4/23 at 10:51 am
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
473 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 10:51 am
Anybody install radiant barrier in their attic after building? Wish i had done it on my roof decking but too late now. House is 5 years old with very little shade. Have young trees but will be a few years before they are useful.

Looking at possibly stapling up radiant barrier across rafters in attic. At least on west facing roofline which is a big portion of roof.
Posted by easy1234
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
267 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 11:16 am to
I did it worth it. Low cost
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
473 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 11:25 am to
Also dumb question for any that know. I have a pretty tall and steep pitched roof. How does one gain access to taller sections of interior roofline? Im assuming decking and a ladder or scaffolding? I will likely hire it out but just curious.

Also, would it be worth it to insulate the ceiling over my patio and garage? Builder cheaped out on that but not sure if it would help given its not conditioned space below.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 11:26 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 11:30 am to
I can put these under the roof decking in the attic..
Worth it?
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
473 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 12:34 pm to
Its a roll of foil paper like barrier that you can staple to your rafters. I think the idea is to let your soffit vents intake air normally then it gets funneled under roof deck to exhaust vents in channels between rafters. In theory it seems like it really stops the radiant heat from penetrating your attic space and heat soaking your house. However there are a few people that say it degrades the life of a shingle roof. But im leaning more and more to that being a non factor for me in south louisiana given that wind and storms will damage shingles before the designed life of a shingle is reached.

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Worth it?


I dont know thats why i started the thread. Haha
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5743 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Also, would it be worth it to insulate the ceiling over my patio and garage? Builder cheaped out on that but not sure if it would help given its not conditioned space below.

Builder didn’t cheap out on you, at least not on this, this is standard building practice - there is no need to insulate over unconditioned areas - porches, carports, garages, etc. So no - it wouldn’t help. “Heat chases Cold” 2nd Law of Thermodynamics - heat will move by conduction from the hot attic to the cooler areas below, so I assume you would not want to curtail heat from a hot attic from moving to an unconditioned outside area by insulating above it.

Though I don’t have a radiant barrier yet, I’ve researched them, and as to higher pitched roof areas, from what I gather the barrier doesn’t need to go up all the way up to the higher roof line, it can be placed horizontally over the lower elevation ceiling rafters (bottom chord of the roof trust) - if that makes sense. I don’t know how an installer would approach this.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Shoalwater Cat
Pville
Member since Dec 2017
799 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:28 pm to
Just did it. Go horizontal across rafters. Leaves the gap you need. Big difference. In garage as I type this.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42796 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:56 pm to
Been a few threads recently on this and yes, it helps greatly IMO.
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
473 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:16 am to
quote:

Just did it.


Would you mind giving a rough estimate on cost per sqft?
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10573 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Just did it. Go horizontal across rafters. Leaves the gap you need. Big difference. In garage as I type this.


Got any pictures of the finished product?
Posted by tdme
Member since Jan 2022
287 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:43 am to
You can purchase the foil from this website. And they have lots of pictures and videos of installation.

Atticfoil
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
473 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:53 am to
Just used google to pull up a previous thread from June in case anyone is interested. Good info there as well. Its a link to Tigerdroppings.

LINK
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
473 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:33 am to
[quote there is no need to insulate over unconditioned areas - porches, carports, garages, etc. So no - it wouldn’t help.[/quote]

I agree with you that its not typical practice. But I do think that it would help mitigate heat radiating from the the roof/attic. If this was not the case then unconditioned metal buildings would never be insulated.

I took (and somehow passed) thermo years ago in college but I cant say I remember enough to be useful here.
Posted by DoItDoug
Member since Sep 2018
409 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:20 pm to
Compelling video

LINK
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5743 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I agree with you that its not typical practice. But I do think that it would help mitigate heat radiating from the the roof/attic. If this was not the case then unconditioned metal buildings would never be insulated.

Well yes it would do that, that’s the purpose of insulation, but I have to believe you would not mind hot air from your your attic moving outside into areas you are not living.

Of course if one uses a garage for example as work area/space for hobbies etc, even if not air conditioned, I could see someone insulating the attic overhead to help moderate temperature below. Don’t really know if it would assist in anyway with an outdoor porch.

Insultating metal building, even if not air conditioned, makes sense if a person uses it to work in, or to moderate extremes in temperature when storing lawn chemical etc., plus it helps with moderating dewpoint temperature and minimizing condensation “sweating” of the metal which of course leads to rusting.

By the way, I thought the same as you when my house was built, though several years after the fact, and I asked some engineers I knew well at LSU, and who were friends of mine about this. Both were working on large federal grants associated with improving energy efficiency in homes - they quickly educated me on thermodynamics/heat transfer and why the areas in an attic over unconditioned areas were not insulated. lol
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Shoalwater Cat
Pville
Member since Dec 2017
799 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:54 pm to
20 x 20 Garage..Hip roof. $400 +-
Posted by Shoalwater Cat
Pville
Member since Dec 2017
799 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:55 pm to
Nope...Try to remember to take some and post
Posted by Shoalwater Cat
Pville
Member since Dec 2017
799 posts
Posted on 7/7/23 at 8:18 am to
See the "Compelling video link" below. Spot on.
Posted by Zakatak
Member since Nov 2011
473 posts
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Don’t really know if it would assist in anyway with an outdoor porch.


I am hoping that it will for a few reasons. My patio is surrounded on 3 walls by my house so it lacks some natural airflow. My patio faces the west so the setting sun is brutal in Summer. I have recently screened off my patio using 70% Solar screen with a 24" knee wall. Also ported the knee wall for a dual hose AC unit to see if I can lower the temp a few degrees to make it comfortable.
We will see if it is worth it. The screen definitely helps with the direct sunlight/heat.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5743 posts
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

I am hoping that it will for a few reasons. My patio is surrounded on 3 walls by my house so it lacks some natural airflow. My patio faces the west so the setting sun is brutal in Summer. I have recently screened off my patio using 70% Solar screen with a 24" knee wall. Also ported the knee wall for a dual hose AC unit to see if I can lower the temp a few degrees to make it comfortable. We will see if it is worth it. The screen definitely helps with the direct sunlight/heat.

Well that makes perfect sense to insulate the porch area attic in that case.
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