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Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:48 pm to
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You have zero history or facts to back your theories...thus you’re a moron


No, you are an idiot. I did not post any theories.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40131 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:49 pm to
1. Aranda
2. Devin White
3. Greedy
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70866 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

I never said that. His hire as full time OC was my breaking point to boycott all games and buying of merchandise until they prove to me that they can get the job done. I'm not sure if that was a general question or not. If it wasn't, in not sure where you came up with that.



I wasn't addressing you specifically, by bad

I was bein sarcastic
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:50 pm to
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Who won the game? Also, how many points did those yards produce?


Did you see the post I was responding to? Did you not see the quote in my post? Did you really read my post and your few brain cells come up this as a response?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
106478 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

your opinions are guesses, not facts. 

Seriously? Of course my opinions aren't facts, if they were, it would be fact. I state in just about every post that I'm only giving my opinion. Not sure why you even made that post on response to me.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Some of the posters here remind me of an interview the TV channel did with snowflakes a couple of days ago.


Yeah, that's a very fair comparison. It's like some of these idiots that think I wrote the article in the OP.

I hope the whole world is getting dumber and not just "LSU" fans.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
106478 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:54 pm to
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Did you really read my post and your few brain cells come up this as a response?

Dude, you responded to my post about the Florida game plan being conservative with yardage totals. What are you talking about? Also, I've respected your opinion even though I don't agree with anything you've said basically, respect mine son.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70866 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 5:55 pm to
People are bitching because of the concern about the program moving forward.

No we don't know what will happen. We could be bad arse on offense next year, or we could be complete shite, no one knows.


But all recent evidence points to not a whole lot of optimism. I mean Besides Aranda, I am not sure where all this optimism stems from. Its a whole lot of question marks and unprovens.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

I mean Besides Aranda, I am not sure where all this optimism stems from


Well the article and quote in my OP says under SE the offense averaged 465 yards and 32 points per game.

The Oline and Dlines should be better and the new Oline coach has a history of his lines giving up very few sacks.

The article mentions the leaderss on defense that are returning. The only questions and unprovens to me are QB (which I think will be better) and the WR's (who with Giles, I again think will be better).

I am not sure where all the pessimism is coming from.

Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:06 pm to
Yeah good thing we got Steve locked in lbefore all those other programs snatched him away from us!

That's sounds awfully familiar.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:23 pm to
you are not allowed to be optimistic on this board. when we hired Orgeron, it became impossible for anything good to happen to LSU. even if it looks good, it is not. that is the mantra.

Orgeron is a shrimp boat captain and makes gumbo. that's it.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:24 pm to
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Yeah good thing we got Steve locked in lbefore all those other programs snatched him away from us!


Not every coach that is hired or promoted by any program is sought after by a lot of other teams.

I really think that would be a stupid basis for hiring someone. Like the new Oline coach. I think he will be a good one.

Did he have other offers?

If he didn't should LSU have passed on him and sought out an Oline coach who did even if they didn't have near the resume he has?

How would they know if he or others had offers?

Their agent would say they did whether they did or not to try to get more money.

Thankfully the LSU head coach is a lot smarter than the average message board wannabe.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:31 pm to
Position coaches are a dime a dozen compared to coordinators and head coaches and you know this. Your continuous justification and pumping up anything O related is tiresome and dishonest. The facts are O was NOT a sought after commodity as HC and Steve E wasn't sought after as a coordinator. The free market tells the truth more times than not.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

even if it looks good, it is not. that is the mantra


Yeah, but that's what makes it so much fun.

I like all LSU sports and pull for them to win. I find it amusing that the most ardent Coach Eaux haters/critics are the biggest Coach Wade fans.

Reading some of their reasoning for the state of the basketball team could be the exact for the football team. If a person didn't know which sport was being discussed they would swear they were talking football.

1st year coaches.
Former coaches players.
Installing new systems and attitudes.
etc, etc, etc.

This is my opinion as I only imagine WW does it, but I think both coaches have created a competition based practice system. You have to win and defend your starting job and playing time EVERY day.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
106478 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

I find it amusing that the most ardent Coach Eaux haters/critics are the biggest Coach Wade fans. 

O took over a team with a decade of top 10 recruiting classes while Wade took over a team with 2 conference wins. The 2 situations couldn't be further apart, thus neither are the expectations. Football has a number of professional athletes, basketball has maybe one, maybe.

Eta: To be clear, I'm not shitting on O. I don't want there to be a misunderstanding.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

The facts are O was NOT a sought after commodity as HC


Does it really matter. He is the head coach at LSU. Sought after has nothing to do with it.

quote:

Steve E wasn't sought after as a coordinator


Well keep on hating on him. Bottom line he is the OC at LSU.

quote:

The free market tells the truth more times than not.


Not necessarily. Florida fans can say the same thing you have been saying about their new coach. Who else offered him.

Jimbo had trouble hiring any coach with other offers. How many of his new staff do you think had multiple offers. Bradley Dale Peveto? I'm sure every team in the country was crawling all over themselves trying to get an offer to BDP. Does that make BDP a bad hire?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87900 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:43 pm to
Why didnt Ed let Brennan play more last season?
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80181 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

1 reason for pessimism in 2018


1. Ed Orgeron



2. Clueless Joe
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216353 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

Does it really matter. He is the head coach at LSU. Sought after has nothing to do with it.


So you are saying we could have NOT done better than O??????
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38573 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

Does that make BDP a bad hire?



You're being way too reductive. Of course it doesn't make it a bad hire, but market value tells you how much someone is worth, which translates into the risk of the hire, and how much other schools may or may not agree with you. Which gives you some data to evaluate a candidate off of. High Value people, people with proven results, have leverage because there is a market consensus on how "good" they are.

It is an important metric to consider when making hires at the top level. Always.
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