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re: Advocate article this morning
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:13 am to LSUdm21
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:13 am to LSUdm21
quote:Which is why I beleive it will be either thrown out or most likely plea bargained down to lesser charges. The DA will not take this case for 2nd degree or something serious based on what we know now (things could change obviously).
Question - If there is no third party giving an account, how did the police come up with the 4 individuals from the team?
The 4 victims named them. If they don't have a 3rd party step forward with a story this is going to be really hard for BRPD to throw charges at someone.
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:14 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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The DA will not take this case for 2nd degree or something serious based on what we know now (things could change obviously).
Huge LSU fan
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:15 am to bdevill
Yeah because refraining from acting like an a-hole to somebody I don't know out in the world is real immature. 
Especially to somebody much bigger and stronger than me.
Especially to somebody much bigger and stronger than me.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:16 am to Enadious
quote:DUDE!! WORD!!
Moral of this whole story: don't honk your horn and yell at the LSU football team, especially when there's 50 of them and 2 of your group and you are a lot smaller and weaker than them.
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Moral of the whole story: if you honk your horn politely at 50 LSU football players, and they try to physically extract you from your vehicle, if you fear for your life, pull out your gun and shoot whoever is trying to hurt you. You will be totally justified in the eyes of the law for protecting your safety.
Actually, I don't think it's certain that anyone was pulled out of a vehicle. But, in the event that that did happen, I would agree with you.
Regards to the wife my friend.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:16 am to chipd
There is a story that wing got friendly with the marine's girl. they got into a scuffle, the marine was kicked out of shady's. he hung around in the parking lot waiting for wing to leave. When wing came out, he sucker punched wing. the players in the parking lot went to defend wing and the marine and his three buds threw down with four lsu players.
don't know if true, just another story to consider. if the police have this story and the polite honking story, which one is believed?
don't know if true, just another story to consider. if the police have this story and the polite honking story, which one is believed?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:16 am to uway
quote:Not really. Grabbing a guy around the neck to pull him off somebody, shoving a guy who falls down wrong, even a punch that catches his jaw just wrong; any or all of those (and many more possibilities) could result in fractured vertebrae. It's yet another example of media sources running with incomplete information (nature of the fractures, which vertebrae, etc.) to make a situation sound as dramatic as possible to spur as much ignorance, rumormongering and close-minded shitslinging as possible. In other words, what passes for "debate" and "discussion" in internet idiot-dens like this one.
The three fractured vertebrae is kind of hard to explain away though.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:16 am to Enadious
quote:
Moral of the whole story: if you honk your horn politely at 50 LSU football players, and they try to physically extract you from your vehicle, if you fear for your life, pull out your gun and shoot whoever is trying to hurt you. You will be totally justified in the eyes of the law for protecting your safety.
Not true. My grandmother and I got attacked by a group of about 15-20 people. They shattered my front window. I brought my baseball bat outside and sat on my front porch in case they came back. The police officer tried to charge me with assault.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 10:17 am
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:20 am to dos crystal
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There is a story that wing got friendly with the marine's girl. they got into a scuffle, the marine was kicked out of shady's. he hung around in the parking lot waiting for wing to leave. When wing came out, he sucker punched wing. the players in the parking lot went to defend wing and the marine and his three buds threw down with four lsu players.
don't know if true, just another story to consider. if the police have this story and the polite honking story, which one is believed?
Said girl reportedly met with Miles and told him what happened. It leans more towards her asking a player for help or the LSU heroes stepping in to rescue her. That is, if she did indeed speak with Les Miles.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:22 am to RealityTiger
Doesn't matter who's bigger or stronger. If this started as a result of a horn honk, it doesn't say much at all for the character or integrity of the players involved.. Which is why I think there's more to the story than just some guys getting honked at in a parking lot.
I mean..C'mon.. You think the LSU football team goes out and LOOKS for shite to start?
I mean..C'mon.. You think the LSU football team goes out and LOOKS for shite to start?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:23 am to dos crystal
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There is a story that wing got friendly with the marine's girl. they got into a scuffle, the marine was kicked out of shady's. he hung around in the parking lot waiting for wing to leave. When wing came out, he sucker punched wing. the players in the parking lot went to defend wing and the marine and his three buds threw down with four lsu players.
Somewhat similar to what I heard. But the girl was both JJ ex and the marines ex. Except the marine was pushing the girl and the players stepped in which is when he punched wing and got thrown out. Then they waited on the players outside.
If you actually believe they were dragged out of their cars for honking "politely" you need to be removed from society for good.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:24 am to guedeaux
Supposedly his grandpa is a judge of some sort
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:24 am to Will2nd
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Said girl reportedly met with Miles and told him what happened. It leans more towards her asking a player for help or the LSU heroes stepping in to rescue her. That is, if she did indeed speak with Les Miles.
if true, then the party who the police arrest very well could be the "victim".
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:24 am to tigereye1760
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Supposedly his grandpa is a judge of some sort
damn, so maybe my inside scoop is correct... but so far its seemed like BS
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:25 am to Cadello
quote:
Not what the guy on here said yesterday
he was wrong. her friend knew JJ
ETA: guy that was hit in the bar was friends with the ex g/f. 4th time marine had hit him on 4 different occasions.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 10:29 am
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:26 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:what I think will happen....
Which is why I beleive it will be either thrown out or most likely plea bargained down to lesser charges. The DA will not take this case for 2nd degree or something serious based on what we know now (things could change obviously).
1 or 2 of the players will get charged with 2nd degree battery. the remaining players of the group of 4 may get charged with simple battery at most.
The marine and maybe another knucklehead will *also* get charged with simple battery.
The 2nd degree charges will get pleaded down to simple battery and maybe some anger mgmt classes, etc., paying court fees, etc.
But, the end result is at least multiple game suspensions for the kids charged with 2nd degree (even if it is pleaded down) and maybe a game or two for anyone originally charged with simple battery.
one thing I'd bet on: JJ is at least out against Oregon.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:26 am to TigerKnights
Isn't it obvious to everyone on both sides of this debate that the felon/marine/dropout was looking for trouble due to a girl and SINCE he has such an emotional/not rational connection here that it is most likely him who threw the first punch. He was kicked out of the bar twice! shite goes down when the players try are trying to leave???
And isn't it possible that he will be the one arrested. IF it is true he told police he was never in the bar and IF it is true that he got thrown out twice. Isn't that a crime?
It has been alleged that he was an employee of the bar. Once the police learned of that couldn't supposedly nonconnected witnesses then be discovered to be actually friends of the marine/felon? Couldn't that be why it looked like arrest might be coming and now more investigation is in order???
And isn't it possible that he will be the one arrested. IF it is true he told police he was never in the bar and IF it is true that he got thrown out twice. Isn't that a crime?
It has been alleged that he was an employee of the bar. Once the police learned of that couldn't supposedly nonconnected witnesses then be discovered to be actually friends of the marine/felon? Couldn't that be why it looked like arrest might be coming and now more investigation is in order???
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:28 am to clamdip
quote:
one thing I'd bet on: JJ is at least out against Oregon.
Id take that bet. Supposively the girl stated JJ was not involved in the fight.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:28 am to clamdip
quote:
one thing I'd bet on: JJ is at least out against Oregon.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:29 am to More beer please
I agree I mean hell JJ has stunk it up the last 2 years and Im sure has been taunted and ridiculed for it pretty bad and he hasnt blew up on no one. I really really have a hard time beleiving that he blew up on a dude for honking his horn and politly asking them to move
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:30 am to More beer please
quote:ok, $50 friendly wager? heck, why not....
Id take that bet. Supposively the girl stated JJ was not involved in the fight.
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