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re: Are Miles supporters delusional?
Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:26 pm to peopleschamp
Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:26 pm to peopleschamp
...uhhmmm...dude....you need to get a life...oh, and , uhh, chill, man, chill...its gonna be ok.... 
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Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:33 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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LSU had an upward trend from 05-07. In 08 a correction took place and the trend moved downward. In 09 another correction took place and the trend moved upward again.
So, the prevailing trend during the last 5 yrs is an upward one.
LSU was 13-3 in the SEC in 2003-2004. LSU was also 13-3 in 2005-2006. From 2007-2009 LSU is 14-10 in the SEC. The trend was maintaining, now the trend is declining. In this same period, UF is 20-4 and Alabama is 20-4.
Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:37 pm to drizztiger
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LSU was 13-3 in the SEC in 2003-2004. LSU was also 13-3 in 2005-2006. From 2007-2009 LSU is 14-10 in the SEC. The trend was maintaining, now the trend is declining. In this same period, UF is 20-4 and Alabama is 20-4.
nice job framing the data to fit your argument...you should work for the government.
Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:38 pm to drizztiger
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LSU had an upward trend from 05-07. In 08 a correction took place and the trend moved downward. In 09 another correction took place and the trend moved upward again.
So, the prevailing trend during the last 5 yrs is an upward one.
Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:42 pm to peopleschamp
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What makes you think we will be in the West race next year?
will a bowl win over Penn St, a top ten finish and another top 5 recruiting class change your opinion on the subject?
Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:47 pm to ForeLSU
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nice job framing the data to fit your argument
I used two year periods then included the NC season at 6-2 SEC with the last 2 seasons, otherwise it looks much worse.
I'm guessing you've never had to analyze data before or are just dumb.
If you want to break it down further:
1998-1999: 3-13
1999-2000: 6-10
2000-2001: 10-6
2001-2002: 11-5
2002-2003: 12-4
2003-2004: 13-3
2004-2005: 13-3
2005-2006: 13-3
2006-2007: 12-4
2007-2008: 9-7
2008-2009: 8-8
Nothing, huh?
ETA: Perhaps I should put this into a graph for those that can seemingly only comprehend pictures.
This post was edited on 12/13/09 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:54 pm to ForeLSU
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nice job framing the data to fit your argument...you should work for the government.
As you know, college football trends are not decided by SEC results. They are decided by over-all season results. We will never see a 8-4, 8-0 SEC team playing for the national title.
Therefore, any valid trend includes all games played.
To do otherwise is simply to cherry pick in an effort to get the desired results one seeks.
Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:59 pm to drizztiger
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I'm guessing you've never had to analyze data before or are just dumb.
i'z jus dum...2 year movin avedges r weigh ova my headt
Posted on 12/13/09 at 4:59 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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As you know, college football trends are not decided by SEC results. They are decided by over-all season results. We will never see a 8-4, 8-0 SEC team playing for the national title.
Therefore, any valid trend includes all games played.
To do otherwise is simply to cherry pick in an effort to get the desired results one seeks.
This proves to me you are stupid beyond doubt.
SEC results are easily more valid for analysis. Although each SEC schedule isn't equal, a 10 year run of schedules will include a good portion of the same opponents and will be limited to the same opposing 11 SEC teams.
Including random rent-a-wins would skew any results.
But go ahead and stick your head in the sand.
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:02 pm to ForeLSU
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i'z jus dum...2 year movin avedges r weigh ova my headt
Apparently they are because you have nothing to add besides wrongfully concluding that I hand pick data and then a sarcastic remark that you are dumb.
It makes me believe you truly are.
Just because you prefer to ignore the trends staring you in the face doesn't mean the trends don't exist.
Another head in the sand fool.
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:09 pm to drizztiger
quote:Way to use the 2008 "data" as many times as possible. It was one bad year in conference play and you lump it in with the championship season to 2007 and an improved season in 2009 to drag down the numbers in your 2 year windows as many times as possible to paint your biased picture. You must be a used car salesman they way you like to "use the data" to support your opinion.
I'm guessing you've never had to analyze data before or are just dumb.
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:15 pm to XbengalTiger
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Way to use the 2008 "data" as many times as possible. It was one bad year in conference play and you lump it in with the championship season to 2007 and an improved season in 2009 to drag down the numbers in your 2 year windows as many times as possible to paint your biased picture.
Another genius. Every year got used twice, Einsten, with the exception of 1998 and 2009. Les Miles 7-1 SEC record in 2005 got used twice also.
It's amazing that you morons try to use a bias argument when you're the ones that want to hand pick or ignore certain seasons to fit your already made conclusions. fricking dunces.
And by the way, even if you magically take out 2008 from the results, the 2007-2009 record is 11-5 which is still a downward trend from 13-3, 13-3, 13-3, 12-4, 11-5.
This post was edited on 12/13/09 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:19 pm to peopleschamp
Yeah I guess I am delusional. I mean LSU will finally have a junior quarterback returning next year with a full year of experience under his belt, in addition to a dominant defense and a pair of great wideouts. But your right there is no way nick Saben and Alabama can possibly lose a game, since Nick Saben has never lost a football game before. I guess LSU might as well not even field a football team until we get a new coach, because we certainly can not ever go 7-1 in the SEC or 8-0. In fact we might as well tear down Tiger Stadium, since we have no hope of ever winning again.
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:26 pm to XbengalTiger
You notice how these bashers get so personal in their attacks when anyone dares to disagree with them.
This post was edited on 12/13/09 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:26 pm to RushTigerLimbaugh
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I guess LSU might as well not even field a football team until we get a new coach, because we certainly can not ever go 7-1 in the SEC or 8-0. In fact we might as well tear down Tiger Stadium, since we have no hope of ever winning again.
This is the hyperbole that just blows my mind.
Either you need to pump sunshine up everyone's arse or we need to disband the football program. What a joke.
It is possible, if you open your mind, to acknowledge there is a disturbing trend and things do need to get corrected in able to go 7-1 or 8-0 in the SEC. Ignoring and closing your eyes and defiantly refuting that there is even a possibility of a problem has never solved anything. But you'll have company sticking your head in the sand.
This post was edited on 12/13/09 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:31 pm to drizztiger
quote:No shite dumbass. That does not change the fact that it was one bad year that you are using to deminish multiple data sets. Again, way to FRAME the data to meet your biased opinion.
Another genius. Every year got used twice, Einsten,
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:34 pm to drizztiger
Yeah, sarcasm can be hard to detect. It is just as silly to think because Bama has been on a tremendous run and LSU has been pedestrian that we can never compete for a championship. The fact of the matter is (as much as I hate to admit) LSU will not play for championships every year, it is not going to happen. The problem the last two years has been quarterback. We made strides this year with Mr. Jefferson, and I think he will only get better next year. Nick's had a lot of success, but as the saying goes "all glory is fleeting".
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:38 pm to XbengalTiger
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No shite dumbass. That does not change the fact that it was one bad year that you are using to deminish multiple data sets. Again, way to FRAME the data to meet your biased opinion.
You must be an idiot. Every year got used twice. How can I frame or manipulate when I am using every year twice since 1999? You aren't complaining about using the 2005 or 2006 season twice? No, because you have the IQ of a brick.
I even took out the 2008 season and the trend is still downward. Ignorance is bliss, eh?
This post was edited on 12/13/09 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:45 pm to RushTigerLimbaugh
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Yeah, sarcasm can be hard to detect.
Well, dealing with these other idiots probably interfered with my sarcasm radar.
I think the issues extend beyond QB and I do not think Bama is going to go undefeated in the SEC every season. But there have been many missteps the last few seasons that really need to get shored up.
If those can get corrected and the QB and offensive play in general is better, then I think we can compete for the SEC west next season. If we finish 2+ games out from the SECCG though, I think the writing is on the wall.
Posted on 12/13/09 at 5:52 pm to peopleschamp
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Do you as a Miles supporter have anything that tells you we will be competitive over an 8 game SEC stretch next year?
This season, which was better than last.
quote:
Look at it objectively
5 loss season with an easier schedule, then a 3 loss season. Improvement.
You really didnt want objectivity did you?
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