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Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:44 pm to
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All they had to say was "You must be a conference champion to play in the BCS Championship."


This would be the worst rule ever. Let's say LSU wins next week, then loses to UGA in Atlanta. Then you'd have a BCSNCG that didn't include LSU, Bama, or Arkansas. It could end up being something like Virginia Tech vs Oklahoma or Oregon vs Oklahoma St. Yea, that'd be awesome and would solve everything.
Posted by revell
Member since Nov 2011
664 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:44 pm to
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shite if we win this out including the National Championship. We'll be regarded as the greatest team in college football history


I seriously doubt that, especially considering it's a down year in college football in general. Nebraska's 95 team was the best ever, IMO. Beat 5 top 20 teams by an average of 37 points, including 38-point win over Florida in the NC.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
9022 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

1 LSU 11-0
2 Alabama 10-1
3 Arkansas 10-1
4 Oklahoma State 10-1

5 Virginia Tech 10-1
6 Stanford 10-1
7 Boise State 9-1
8 Houston 11-0
9 Oklahoma 8-2
10 Oregon 9-2
11 Kansas State 9-2
12 South Carolina 9-2
13 Georgia 9-2
14 Michigan State 9-2
15 Michigan 9-2
16 Wisconsin 9-2
17 Clemson 9-2
18 Baylor 7-3
19 Penn State 9-2
20 TCU 9-2
21 Nebraska 8-3
22 Notre Dame 8-3
23 Georgia Tech 8-3
24 Auburn 7-4
25 Texas 6-4



we could potentially beat all these teams
Posted by revell
Member since Nov 2011
664 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:47 pm to
I don't understand why LSU fans are so scared to play Bama again. You already beat them on their home turf, and this time it'll be in your own backyard, the Superdome.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:52 pm to
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This would be the worst rule ever. Let's say LSU wins next week, then loses to UGA in Atlanta. Then you'd have a BCSNCG that didn't include LSU, Bama, or Arkansas. It could end up being something like Virginia Tech vs Oklahoma or Oregon vs Oklahoma St. Yea, that'd be awesome and would solve everything.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87528 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:52 pm to
Is there any way to go undefeated and lose the bcs title game and stay #1 in the bcs?
Posted by Captain Want
Member since Nov 2009
2175 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:53 pm to
Im not scared of playing Bama again. I just think its wrong for a team that we beat at their stadium that did not win its division that we are in or its conference should be rewarded like that over a conference champion.
Posted by RollTideRockStar
Member since Jan 2010
4477 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:53 pm to
#2 Alabama .9491
#4 Oklahoma State .8408

Way too large a margin. Especially not playing this weekend and Alabama playing a ranked opponent.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21978 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:54 pm to
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Is there any way to go undefeated and lose the bcs title game and stay #1 in the bcs?


The coaches are obligated to vote the winner of the BCS title game #1, so I doubt it.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:55 pm to
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Is there any way to go undefeated and lose the bcs title game and stay #1 in the bcs?

There is no BCS ranking after the bowls, and the winner of the title game gets the Crystal Football.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
87528 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:56 pm to
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The coaches are obligated to vote the winner of the BCS title game #1, so I doubt it.


Oh yeah thats rt, i was just thinking that we might not drop low enough. But yeah the coaches woul dvote whoever won that game #1
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48264 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:57 pm to
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Way too large a margin. Especially not playing this weekend and Alabama playing a ranked opponent.


In two weeks, when Alabama is sitting at home and Oklahoma State is possibly beating Oklahoma, the voters will look hard at switching Alabama & Oklahoma State at #2 and #3 just like when we jumped Georgia in 2007.
Posted by TigerMom
Member since Nov 2007
414 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:57 pm to
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#2 Alabama .9491 #4 Oklahoma State .8408


But...look at OSU's %.
Posted by Captain Want
Member since Nov 2009
2175 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:59 pm to
Matt, with the scores now known what do you think about oklahoma state's chances?
Posted by German Shepard
Berlin, Germany
Member since Jan 2009
1064 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 8:01 pm to
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In two weeks, when Alabama is sitting at home and Oklahoma State is possibly beating Oklahoma, the voters will look hard at switching Alabama & Oklahoma State at #2 and #3 just like when we jumped Georgia in 2007.


That could be possible. Especially if Bama struggles with Auburn IMO.
Posted by GeauxLSU8
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4242 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 8:03 pm to
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quote:


Way too large a margin. Especially not playing this weekend and Alabama playing a ranked opponent.




In two weeks, when Alabama is sitting at home and Oklahoma State is possibly beating Oklahoma, the voters will look hard at switching Alabama & Oklahoma State at #2 and #3 just like when we jumped Georgia in 2007.


This...plus Oklahoma is ranked way higher than Auburn.
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
3742 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 8:05 pm to
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don't understand why LSU fans are so scared to play Bama again. You already beat them on their home turf, and this time it'll be in your own backyard, the Superdome


Nobody is scared. The BCS claims to exist to make the regular season the playoff. We beat bama on the road and while we are playing in the sec cg, they will be sitting on their arse not winning their own division. Ftr, I think we win by 10 in the dome. They don't deserve another shot if there is another 1 loss conf champ. Period.
This post was edited on 11/20/11 at 8:10 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28370 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 8:05 pm to
LOL at Brad Edwards...."If LSU loses, there is a chance that they stay at #2."

Well, yeah Brad....Not only is there a chance, it is HIGHLY LIKELY that LSU stays at #2 or higher. There's no chance 100% of voters put LSU at #3.

Anyone with a brain and even a basic set of math skills can see that LSU likely isn't falling below 2 with a loss to Arkansas.
This post was edited on 11/20/11 at 8:08 pm
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48264 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 8:06 pm to
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But...look at OSU's %.



He's not.

Oklahoma St is #6 in both polls and would move up to at least #5 next week and potentially #3 by the end of conference championship game weekend.

OSU with a .950 computer score would only need to steal 32 votes in both the Harris and the Coaches polls to pass Alabama to #2 in the final BCS.
Posted by emmanuellewis
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
3266 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 8:08 pm to
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#2 Alabama .9491
#4 Oklahoma State .8408

Way too large a margin. Especially not playing this weekend and Alabama playing a ranked opponent.


Look, I think OSU loses to OU but, if not, they can make up this ground. The margin is because they are 6 in the Harris (.7885) and USA Today polls (.7837). Even now, they have a higher score than Bama in the computers. If they beat OU, they will likely have be ranked #2 in all of the computers to Bama's #3.

They could make up the ground in the polls by Arkansas losing (to us), Va Tech losing (to Virginia or Clemson), and Stanford losing support due to their schedule. If OSU is the consensus 3rd place team, they would need a percentage of people to rank them over Bama (I dont even think it would have to be a high percentage). I think if OSU wins out, they will be in the BCS game.
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