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Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:33 pm to
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Not sure why you're so sensitive. Your entire op is based on assumptions, ifs, mights, coulds, shoulds, woulds, seems, and fathoms. You don't seem real confident in what you posted.


It is not assumptions. I can't fathom how you can be this stupid. Oklahoma St is going to be ahead of Alabama in at least 5 computer polls if they beat Oklahoma St. End of discussion. No other games need be looked at.

Secondly, if Oklahoma St gets 25 percent of the second place vote and is 3rd in all the other polls, they get in. No other factors need be looked at.

LSUMatt has not claimed to know what the voters will do. You are the one making a fool of yourself pretending to know for sure what humans will put. Matt is claiming to know exactly what will happen with the computer rankings because the ONLY factor that can affect them is the remaining games on the schedule.
Posted by made4lsu
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2009
6121 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:34 pm to
yes, didn't realize that game was not this week
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:34 pm to
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RockStar, please change your team back to Bama.


Yes, please. I'm not sure I've ever seen a stupider string of posts on this board, and that is saying something.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28080 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:34 pm to
Don't worry Matt, when osu wins and is picked to face lsu in the natty, you can remind all the gumps that they were wrong and u were right.
Posted by islstl
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2006
794 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:36 pm to
Not sure what all the animosity is towards Matt about.

If you don't like what he has offered here, don't click on the thread. You people obviously can't even understand half of what he is trying to tell you because your brain can't comprehend it (for those that are bashing him).

He's offered up valuable information that a LOT of people want to know about. He knows what he is talking about.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 8:37 pm
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37785 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:36 pm to
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There are ZERO hypothetical possibilities of games left on the schedule that would keep Bama ahead of OSU if OSU beats Oklahoma.


Other than the voters.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46068 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:42 pm to
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Other than the voters.
Which is not really a possibility if OSU beats OU.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68276 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:46 pm to
If Okie State wins out, there will be no "rematch" in the BCSCG. I guarantee it.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:48 pm to
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Other than the voters.


I was talking about the computer rankings. There are no possibilities that would put Bama in front of OSU there, despite what that other clown says,
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37785 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:49 pm to
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quote:

Other than the voters.


Which is not really a possibility if OSU beats OU.


Right the voters will place a team that was a 28 pt favorite and lost to a terrible team over a team that lost by 3 pts in OT to the number 1 ranked team. Makes perfect sense to me. You might get the computers but you ain't getting the voters.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:51 pm to
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Voters were right. Michigan was blown out by USCw. Ohio State by FL.Not the same with Alabama, LSU 2011. We KNOW they are as good as advertised.


How so? Because Bama beat Penn St?
Posted by Kingpin
Tuscaloosa
Member since Jan 2009
3565 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:51 pm to
I'm trying to get a handle on how much a fourth place vote would hurt OSU.

Let's say a Boise State voter hands OSU a single fourth place vote on the final day.

How much does that increase the percentage of #2 votes OSU needs? It was 25%. What percentage would they need after that?
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:53 pm to
Think of it as every 4th place vote cancelling out one of the 2nd place votes Oklahoma St got. A 5th place vote would cancel out two second place votes for Oklahoma St, and so on.

So for every 4th place vote OSU gets, they will need an extra 2nd place vote in addition to the 25 percent.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:54 pm to
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Right the voters will place a team that was a 28 pt favorite and lost to a terrible team over a team that lost by 3 pts in OT to the number 1 ranked team. Makes perfect sense to me. You might get the computers but you ain't getting the voters.


I don't think you can punish the team for being a 28 point road favorite.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
15824 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:55 pm to
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Right the voters will place a team that was a 28 pt favorite and lost to a terrible team over a team that lost by 3 pts in OT to the number 1 ranked team. Makes perfect sense to me. You might get the computers but you ain't getting the voters.


Your head is in the sand. Look at closing history of the BCS. Maybe LSU fans understand this stuff better because we have walked the tightrope so much over the past decade.
Posted by lsumatt
Austin
Member since Feb 2005
12812 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

'm trying to get a handle on how much a fourth place vote would hurt OSU.


Basically, for every fourth place vote, OSU would need another 2nd place vote.
Posted by Kingpin
Tuscaloosa
Member since Jan 2009
3565 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:58 pm to
So it's a vote for a vote, when looking at #2 votes versus #4 votes. But 2 votes for 1 vote when looking at #2 votes versus #5 votes.

Can I assume that in order to make up for a #6 vote, it would require 3 #2 votes?

And so on?
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 9:00 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:59 pm to
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Can I assume that in order to make up for a #6 vote, it would require 3 #2 votes?


You may.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46068 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

If Okie State wins out, there will be no "rematch" in the BCSCG. I guarantee it.
This.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46068 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

Right the voters will place a team that was a 28 pt favorite and lost to a terrible team over a team that lost by 3 pts in OT to the number 1 ranked team. Makes perfect sense to me. You might get the computers but you ain't getting the voters.
Delusion. BTW, Saban to Texas.
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